Tyler Guyton will be a bust

[LACowboysFan1]

yeah Mazi is a legend around here

 

[Davidlee1973]

It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.

100 percent. Idk what they were thinking when they traded down. Throw Bebe in as well.

 

[ghosttown cowboy]

He was a TE at TCU, transferred to OU and only started for one year at RT. He has no business playing left tackle, it's a completely different position than what he played just last year.

 

[thunderpimp91]

100 percent. Idk what they were thinking when they traded down. Throw Bebe in as well.

I hope they move Beebe back to G. I think he will be fine in the long run at either position, but he seems like a natural G at this level. He looks very unnatural in getting to those 2nd level blocks too which you're asked to do a whole lot more at center.

 

[rambo2]

It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.

He is looking better than some of the tackles taken before and after him.

 

[Hoofbite]

Guyton gets his feelings hurt and takes himself out of the game.

Mazi just doesn’t care and is content with a roster spot.

Both are traits teams avoid. Dallas loves those “diamonds in the rough”.

 

[thunderpimp91]

He was a TE at TCU, transferred to OU and only started for one year at RT. He has no business playing left tackle, it's a completely different position than what he played just last year.

I honestly don't know the answer to this, but is it really that big of a jump to switch sides these days? A decade ago I would have probably agreed with you no question, but other than just the mechanics of switching sides I almost think LT has become the easier position to play. Yes you don't get TE help as often, but TEs run routes 90% of the time anyways so at most you get a chip. Teams are playing their best edge guys over the RT more often than not in recent years as well. I'm not married to the idea that LT is easier, I actually think its pretty much the same anymore, but I'm very open to arguments that i'm wrong here too.

 

[cowboys1732]

His natural position is RT. They should have Tyler at LT and Guyton at RT and try it that way.

I wish they would try this. Steele needs to go anyways. At this point they are all playing for roster spots next year. Although Jerry will never admit this.

 

[XXLMike]

Is -

 

[Whyjerry]

as i said, the results of his body of drafts. last years was poor, but did yield overshown. this years i’m not ready to grade yet. maybe you don’t pay attention to overall drafting by the league at large, or only their hits, or only teams with multiple first rounders, or highly drafted qbs. but yes mcclay had been responsible for really good drafting on the whole. just not infallibly, and certainly not when focusing on last year or this years performance.


also if you need actual data. here’s (one of many) articles i found with just a cursory non-leading google of “best drafting teams”

over the last 5 drafts, not including current but including last years disaster, and dallas is tops in total value.

Where are the playoff wins? Where are the championships? I don’t care about a stupid poll or analysis.

30 years. Nothing. McClay has had a hand in some terrible rosters. Look at this team. It’s terrible.

 

[Tabascocat]

My easy solution:

Move Guyton to RT, release Steele
Tyler back to LT
Move Beebee to LG or RG, Martin retires.
Draft a C or FA
Draft another G or FA

Hire best OL coach out there.

 

[exciter]

It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.

He looks like exactly what he is, a late first who should have sat the first half of the season, who’s currently having to block DEs who are teeing off, because they don’t have to respect or play the run game!
He’s still continuing to improve, keep letting him get experience build some actual NFL strength in a pro weight program during the offseason and he looks to be a plus LT in the future!

And omg… imagine that, an early twenty something being immature !

 

[Proof]

Where are the playoff wins? Where are the championships? I don’t care about a stupid poll or analysis.

30 years. Nothing. McClay has had a hand in some terrible rosters. Look at this team. It’s terrible.

those are different things. the team sucks, and has woefully underperformed. the point in contention was that they draft well. "based on what?" the metrics provided. two things can be true. if you want to rant at how much they suck, i will join you. if you say they don't draft well, i will disagree and provide evidence that you request.

 

[exciter]

My easy solution:

Move Guyton to RT, release Steele
Tyler back to LT
Move Beebee to LG or RG, Martin retires.
Draft a C or FA
Draft another G or FA

Hire best OL coach out there.

Gutting is a LT in this league!
Smith is a guard!
Let’s continue to let the actual football people make the decisions lol!

 

[Eightneight]

Typical when drafting for needs and mot BPA. Same with Mazi.

 

[Tabascocat]

Gutting is a LT in this league!
Smith is a guard!
Let’s continue to let the actual football people make the decisions lol!

Why? It’s not working

 

[big dog cowboy]

So far Guyton has been a bust.

No.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I wish they would try this. Steele needs to go anyways. At this point they are all playing for roster spots next year. Although Jerry will never admit this.

Exactly, and he can free up quite a bit with a June 1 cut. Bass is a decent enough LG. We will probably need to draft a RG if Martin retires, but it is probably easier than drafting a new tackle, and it's putting Guyton where he's comfortable playing.

 

[KJJ]

No.

He hasn’t been very good the entire season. A lot of inconsistency in his play. I don’t think he’ll end up a bust but not convinced he’ll become a great player. Not sure he’ll be the answer at LT.

 

[exciter]

Why? It’s not working

Lol, it worked just fine in the first part of the game when McCarthy was calling enough runs that the ends had to respect the run. The tackles didn’t start to break down until the game reached a point all the ends had to do was pin their ears.
Again, let the actual football people make the decisions.

Oh , and something not working doesn’t mean you should make it worse with poor decisions eh!