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Rampage;3419247 said:
ring rust was indeed a factor. props to Rashad for winning. I must say though I will never pay for another UFC if one of Greg Jackson's fighters other than Carwin is in the main event. these guys go into the fight with a gameplan that if executed will earn them a decision victory.

also Brilz got robbed

Carwin will try and hold Lesnar up against the cage watch.
 

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The other black fighters like Evans and King Mo do not like Rampage. They say he's stupid and a fraud who plays to stereotypes.

I agree. I think he was real when he fought in Pride, but he's a fake now.
 

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Jon88;3419285 said:
The other black fighters like Evans and King Mo do not like Rampage. They say he's stupid and a fraud who plays to stereotypes.

I agree. I think he was real when he fought in Pride, but he's a fake now.
king mo is still bitter that Rampage showed the world how stupid he is a while back.
 

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Ren;3419064 said:
Seriously **** Rampage, how dumb can you be? He had him hurt and he just stood there and did nothing

Really stupid by Rampage. If he'd have pushed it there and went after him he;'d have finished him without a doubt.

Very stupid to just sit back and wait.


CATCH17;3419075 said:
Yes!

The better fighter won!

Shogun will be the next to go down.

Props to Rashad for executing his plan but I'm not convinced he's the better fighter overall. We'll see when they no doubt fight again.

If Shogun shows up healthy, as he has for his last 3 fights, there is no way that Rashad beats him.


Rampage;3419247 said:
ring rust was indeed a factor. props to Rashad for winning. I must say though I will never pay for another UFC if one of Greg Jackson's fighters other than Carwin is in the main event. these guys go into the fight with a gameplan that if executed will earn them a decision victory.

also Brilz got robbed

Ring rust was evident but it was still a complete bonehead decision by Rampage that cost him winning that fight. If he goes after him at the end of the fight he ends Rashads night. He simply didn't and it cost him winning the fight.



Oh and where is Neon Deon whats his face? You know that advice you gave everyone about learning MMA...yeah you should definately do that cause last night you're ignorance of the sport was exposed very clearly by Brilz. There is absolutely, totally, and utterly no way that Nog won that fight in any way, shape, or form.

Top 3 LHW in the world huh?

LOL. He's not even top 3 in the UFC.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3419579 said:
Really stupid by Rampage. If he'd have pushed it there and went after him he;'d have finished him without a doubt.

Very stupid to just sit back and wait.




Props to Rashad for executing his plan but I'm not convinced he's the better fighter overall. We'll see when they no doubt fight again.

If Shogun shows up healthy, as he has for his last 3 fights, there is no way that Rashad beats him.




Ring rust was evident but it was still a complete bonehead decision by Rampage that cost him winning that fight. If he goes after him at the end of the fight he ends Rashads night. He simply didn't and it cost him winning the fight.

There is a way and thats that Rashad can control any fight on the ground and win by decision.

If he wants to he can be the GSP of 205.

Machida might be his Matt Serra too. No way does Rashad lose to Machida if he doesn't go in their fighting like a total DA.

He really pissed me off that night and I was in Vegas on top of all that so I had to hear the Machida bandwagon chronies goin nuts.
 

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Ren;3419244 said:
Find me a bar or channel on Oslo that shows the fights and i would gladly do that. Bars here close at 3am UFC usually starts at 4 and no channels not even cable shows the fights


That must suck. They don't even have pay-per-view ?

Bars here will be open for the World Cup. They won't serve alcohol depending on the local laws. But they will broadcast all of the games. And serve food.
 

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CATCH17;3419675 said:
There is a way and thats that Rashad can control any fight on the ground and win by decision.

You're seriously underestimating Shogun

Just cause Shogun doesn't go to the ground doesn't mean he can't, his BJJ is on par with his muay thai. Shogun is a very dangerous fighter on the ground and any gameplan revolving around control him on the ground would likely end i disaster since he's probably a lot better on the ground then Rashad

I can't see anything that would favor Rashad in that fight, they guy was lucky to get out of the 3rd round in his last 2 fights and Shogun is a huge step up in competition compared to Silva and Rampage. If Shogun rocks him like Silva and Rampage did the fight is over, Shogun is a much better striker then both of then so you can pretty much count on that happening
 

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Ren;3419838 said:
You're seriously underestimating Shogun

Just cause Shogun doesn't go to the ground doesn't mean he can't, his BJJ is on par with his muay thai. Shogun is a very dangerous fighter on the ground and any gameplan revolving around control him on the ground would likely end i disaster since he's probably a lot better on the ground then Rashad

I can't see anything that would favor Rashad in that fight, they guy was lucky to get out of the 3rd round in his last 2 fights and Shogun is a huge step up in competition compared to Silva and Rampage. If Shogun rocks him like Silva and Rampage did the fight is over, Shogun is a much better striker then both of then so you can pretty much count on that happening

Im not underestimating Shogun. I think he is the most skilled fighter @ 205.


I just feel when Rashad and Shogun fight Rashad will control the fight and win by decision.
 

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Someone needs to drop down and beat GSP...or he needs to move up. I don't like him either.
 

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CATCH17;3419880 said:
Im not underestimating Shogun. I think he is the most skilled fighter @ 205.


I just feel when Rashad and Shogun fight Rashad will control the fight and win by decision.


Only way that could happen is if Evans pins him up against the cage for 5 rounds, that's assuming Shogun doesn't fight back like Rampage and lets him
 

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yeah Catch, that's just what everyone wants to see another lay n pray champ like gsp. but than again atleast gsp has tried to finish some of his fights. Rashad lay n prayed Silva than got lucky he made it out of that fight with his 3rd round blunder. than he did the same thing against Quinton. what's funny was Rashad hit Rampage with everything he had in the 1st 20 seconds of the fight and it didn't even hurt Rampage, it just knocked him off balance. Rashad knows he can't stand and bang with the top 205ers so he's gonna turn it into a boring wrestling match for now on. he even said that much in his post fight interview.
 

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LAS VEGAS – A familiar faced popped out of the crowd of reporters and onlookers at Saturday's UFC 114 post-fight press conference in Las Vegas – former PRIDE mainstay Ricardo Arona.

Arona (14-5) told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) he was there to support his former teammate, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, who defeated Jason Brilz at the pay-per-view event, and get a meeting with UFC president Dana White.

"I talked to him before, but I don't know yet," Arona said. "I hope so. I've got to talk to him about me coming back to fight. I will try, but he's very busy."

Earlier in the evening, White told a small group of reporters that he is indeed open to meeting with the Brazilian.

"I'll talk to him," White said.

Arona, a decorated submission grappler, was once considered one of the world's top light heavyweights and fought a laundry list of top-tier talent in PRIDE.

His decision victory over Wanderlei Silva in August 2005 is considered one of the greatest upsets in the Japanese promotion's history.

The 31-year-old fighter struggled afterward and lost three of his last four fights in the promotion. When PRIDE went belly-up in March 2007, he struggled to find fights (some critics believe his grappling-heavy style contributed to the layoff). He returned to action this past September with a unanimous decision victory over Marvin Eastman at Bitteti Combat 4.

Arona said fighting in the UFC is a long-held goal.

"Of course, a long time," he said. "[It would be a] great moment to do that."

Arona said if his meeting with White is successful, he'd like to make his octagon debut at the end of this year.

"I had an injury in [the Eastman] fight, and I came back to training now, so I need more time," Arona said.

Arona didn't call out any current UFC fighters – a job is good enough right now.

"Everybody's asking me why I'm not fighting, but I think I will talk to the boss, and maybe then I will do it," Arona said.






also Dana said Machida vs Rampage could be next.
 

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Rampage;3419939 said:
LAS VEGAS – A familiar faced popped out of the crowd of reporters and onlookers at Saturday's UFC 114 post-fight press conference in Las Vegas – former PRIDE mainstay Ricardo Arona.

Arona (14-5) told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) he was there to support his former teammate, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, who defeated Jason Brilz at the pay-per-view event, and get a meeting with UFC president Dana White.

"I talked to him before, but I don't know yet," Arona said. "I hope so. I've got to talk to him about me coming back to fight. I will try, but he's very busy."

Earlier in the evening, White told a small group of reporters that he is indeed open to meeting with the Brazilian.

"I'll talk to him," White said.

Arona, a decorated submission grappler, was once considered one of the world's top light heavyweights and fought a laundry list of top-tier talent in PRIDE.

His decision victory over Wanderlei Silva in August 2005 is considered one of the greatest upsets in the Japanese promotion's history.

The 31-year-old fighter struggled afterward and lost three of his last four fights in the promotion. When PRIDE went belly-up in March 2007, he struggled to find fights (some critics believe his grappling-heavy style contributed to the layoff). He returned to action this past September with a unanimous decision victory over Marvin Eastman at Bitteti Combat 4.

Arona said fighting in the UFC is a long-held goal.

"Of course, a long time," he said. "[It would be a] great moment to do that."

Arona said if his meeting with White is successful, he'd like to make his octagon debut at the end of this year.

"I had an injury in [the Eastman] fight, and I came back to training now, so I need more time," Arona said.

Arona didn't call out any current UFC fighters – a job is good enough right now.

"Everybody's asking me why I'm not fighting, but I think I will talk to the boss, and maybe then I will do it," Arona said.






also Dana said Machida vs Rampage could be next.


I heard it was going to be Rampage vs Machida which I think will be a terrible fight for Rampage. Machida is going to utilize that hit and run, to an even larger degree, than Rashad did and after seeing how Rashad screwed up only one time and nearly got himself ended because of I don't see Machida ever allowing Rampage to get anywhere near getting a clean shot at him.

That fight will turn out a whole lot like Machida's fight with Tito which will be horribly boring.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3419984 said:
I heard it was going to be Rampage vs Machida which I think will be a terrible fight for Rampage. Machida is going to utilize that hit and run, to an even larger degree, than Rashad did and after seeing how Rashad screwed up only one time and nearly got himself ended because of I don't see Machida ever allowing Rampage to get anywhere near getting a clean shot at him.

That fight will turn out a whole lot like Machida's fight with Tito which will be horribly boring.
I agree. the matchmaking(Joe Silva) is terrible and has been for years. it should be

Rashad vs Shogun
obvious

Rampage vs Forrest or maybe Lil Nog.

Page is a fan favorite and just came off a 14 month layoff. they should be giving him a fight to get him back in rhythm and to get his confidence back since he is a fan favorite. plus Forrest has nobody to fight and Lil Nog "won" a decision over a guy who isn't even a top 10 lhw.

Machida vs maybe Bones Jones or Ryan Bader or Cyrille Diabate.

ya know?
 

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CATCH17;3419675 said:
There is a way and thats that Rashad can control any fight on the ground and win by decision.

If he wants to he can be the GSP of 205.

Machida might be his Matt Serra too. No way does Rashad lose to Machida if he doesn't go in their fighting like a total DA.

He really pissed me off that night and I was in Vegas on top of all that so I had to hear the Machida bandwagon chronies goin nuts.

At least GSP goes for the finish on the ground with submissions, has Evans even attempted a submission in his entire career?

Even Evans doesn't like going to the ground, he's got all this good wrestling you keep hearing about but he will only go there when he has an obvious, overwhelming advantage on the ground. Otherwise he prefers to dance and throw hands. Shogun is much more complete of a fighter.

That's before you even begin to factor in the fact that Rashad's chin has apparently turned to Jello.
 

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TheCount;3420042 said:
At least GSP goes for the finish on the ground with submissions, has Evans even attempted a submission in his entire career?

Even Evans doesn't like going to the ground, he's got all this good wrestling you keep hearing about but he will only go there when he has an obvious, overwhelming advantage on the ground. Otherwise he prefers to dance and throw hands. Shogun is much more complete of a fighter.

That's before you even begin to factor in the fact that Rashad's chin has apparently turned to Jello.
his wrestling is nothing special. his takedowns are very good though. Rashad's college wrestling record at Michigan State was 48-34.
 
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