UFC 116: Lesnar vs Carwin

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Brock tried to get Carwin down early but couldn't in which I was impressed. Carwin, the biggest, baddest puncher in the UFC, hit Lesnar with his entire aresonal and couldnt finish him. I knew it was over when Carwin was sitting on the bench between rounds and the look on his face was shock.

Brock can not be beat if he gets on top now. Mir got lucky when he didnt know what he was doing in there first fight and put a leg lock on him but now he knows how to disperse his weight safley and properly.

The only guy who can beat Brock is Shane Carwin. Even though he lost he deserve credit. Fedor doesnt look like he has the instinct any more and Cain Velesquez will get thrown around.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3450657 said:
:huh:

Talented and physically gifted go together.
Talented as in skill. Physically gifted refering to his size, strength, speed combination.
 

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Jed_70;3450594 said:
Lesner is getting is *** handed to him here in the 1st round.

I'm loving it!

Jed_70;3450598 said:
Lesnar is finding out the hard way that brute strength doesn't always work.

Jed_70;3450599 said:
Wow, Lesnar came back and tapped him out.
:lmao: ALL HAIL THE VANILLA GORILLA!

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just got back from the bar. man what an awesome fight, i knew when carwin stopped punching in the first that he was in trouble. i didnt get to see who got fight of the night, could someone tell me? my vote was the leben fight.
 

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Fight should have been stopped in the first. Brock has shown the world he can't hang with strikers on his feet. He look's so awkward when he is standing and striking. Dude really needs to just train striking for awhile and forget training wrestling. If he doesn't improve his striking he better shoot for a takedown at the start of every fight or he will get knocked out by someone with better cardio then Shane.
 

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zrinkill;3450646 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/mma/2010-07-04-ufc-116_N.htm

In his last fight against Frank Mir, Lesnar finished with an unrelenting assault of punches on the ground. This time, Carwin defended the punches well.

Then came the unexpected. Lesnar wrapped his arms around Carwin's neck and arm. Carwin appeared to have the choke well-defended. But Lesnar squeezed and forced the submission through brute strength.

I'm sticking with my assessment. ;)
 

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DemonBlood;3450691 said:
Fight should have been stopped in the first. Brock has shown the world he can't hang with strikers on his feet. He look's so awkward when he is standing and striking. Dude really needs to just train striking for awhile and forget training wrestling. If he doesn't improve his striking he better shoot for a takedown at the start of every fight or he will get knocked out by someone with better cardio then Shane.

him winning the fight proves the fight should not have been stopped. unless it is shown he suffered severe brain trauma the ref made the right decision by letting the fight go-on
 

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BanditHiro;3450709 said:
him winning the fight proves the fight should not have been stopped. unless it is shown he suffered severe brain trauma the ref made the right decision by letting the fight go-on

Hilarious. So fighters that have had their fights stopped for much less should be pissed then? You know, because maybe if the refs let them get pounded on for a few more minutes they could have got saved by the bell? They then could have maybe regain their composure in the corner, shook the cobwebs out of their heads and then maybe they could have stole a win from the jaws of defeat? :laugh2:
 

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BanditHiro;3450709 said:
him winning the fight proves the fight should not have been stopped. unless it is shown he suffered severe brain trauma the ref made the right decision by letting the fight go-on

That's exactly what I was thinking. If he went on to get his face pounded in the rest of the way, you could have argued for the stoppage there. He won though. There's really no argument at this point.
 

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DemonBlood;3450711 said:
Hilarious. So fighters that have had their fights stopped for much less should be pissed then? You know, because maybe if the refs let them get pounded on for a few more minutes they could have got saved by the bell? They then could have maybe regain their composure in the corner, shook the cobwebs out of their heads and then maybe they could have stole a win from the jaws of defeat? :laugh2:

Sure they should be pissed. Carwin was only punching arms past those first couple of punches. Brock had it well defended and about 30 seconds later, when Carwin was completely gassed, it was obvious that the ref made the correct choice there.
 

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Ozzu;3450713 said:
Sure they should be pissed. Carwin was only punching arms past those first couple of punches. Brock had it well defended and about 30 seconds later, when Carwin was completely gassed, it was obvious that the ref made the correct choice there.

Yeah, obvious to oblivious Brock fanboys. Brock going into a fetal position means well defended? Brock himself said he didn't know where he was and he thought the ref was about to stop it on ESPN.
 

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DemonBlood;3450715 said:
Yeah, obvious to oblivious Brock fanboys. Brock going into a fetal position means well defended? Brock himself said he didn't know where he was and he thought the ref was about to stop it on ESPN.

Per Lesnar:

"I just had to weather the storm," he said. "He's got some heavy shots. I just had to hang back. I knew he was getting tired. Each shot was less dramatic than the other, and I thought, 'I'll just let him go.'"

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5352613
 

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Ozzu;3450716 said:
Per Lesnar:

"I just had to weather the storm," he said. "He's got some heavy shots. I just had to hang back. I knew he was getting tired. Each shot was less dramatic than the other, and I thought, 'I'll just let him go.'"

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5352613

:laugh2: Of course that's what he is saying now. In the locker room right after the fight he said exactly what I said he said to Kenny Florian who was doing the interview. "I'll just let him go" hilarious. More like "I don't know what to do when I get hit so i'll just run backwards into the cage and crumble to the floor in a fetal position."
 

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DemonBlood;3450715 said:
Yeah, obvious to oblivious Brock fanboys. Brock going into a fetal position means well defended? Brock himself said he didn't know where he was and he thought the ref was about to stop it on ESPN.
I'm not a Brock fanboy and all of these guys go into a defensive position when on their backs. If a guy is on his back, fight over? Tell that to both Leben and Lesnar you got submissions after being on their backs. Leben was still on his back.
 

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Hostile;3450729 said:
I'm not a Brock fanboy and all of these guys go into a defensive position when on their backs. If a guy is on his back, fight over? Tell that to both Leben and Lesnar you got submissions after being on their backs. Leben was still on his back.

Where did I say if a guy is on his back it means fight over? Leben was not in the fetal position getting pounded with a bunch of unprotected shots and not intelligently defending himself. Big difference between having someone in your closed guard and being in the fetal position.
 

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DemonBlood;3450711 said:
Hilarious. So fighters that have had their fights stopped for much less should be pissed then? You know, because maybe if the refs let them get pounded on for a few more minutes they could have got saved by the bell? They then could have maybe regain their composure in the corner, shook the cobwebs out of their heads and then maybe they could have stole a win from the jaws of defeat? :laugh2:

Yea they usually are pissed after their fights are stopped, and fans cry about it too.

but anyways what do you care you what i or anyone in the thread says, you are just a troll (proved it by calling the other poster a fanboy).
 

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Carwin made the mistake of thinking Brock was just going to be another of those first round victims.

When he was fresh, his takedown defense was good, and he was pretty much dictating the fight. As soon as he got gassed it was over.

They really could have stopped the fight early, but it was for the belt so you knew that wasn't going to happen. No point arguing about it. I was definately surprised by the fact that Lesnar basically started running and cowering when he couldn't take Carwin down initially, it looked to me like he was panicking.

I think Cain is more disciplined than Carwin, so he's not going to gas himself but I don't see how he can get out of a bad position if he ends up on the ground with Brock on top of him.
 
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