UFC 196 busted

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Wrestlers and grapplers beat Boxers until Boxers learn to wrestle and grapple.

Holm has one of the best take down defenses in women's MMA and trains at the best camp for learning it, Jackson's MMA.
But knowing zero BJJ she lost just the same.

Conor is the same sprawl and brawl fighter. He lost because he faced a guy finally that had a nice reach advantage and boxing advantage on him plus knew zero BJJ.

As to real Boxers it would all depend on the fight and the amount of skill they had in addition to boxing.

I don't think Mayweather would fare well in MMA because his defense is all largely head/shoulder movement.
His lower body and abdomen is available for take downs or leg kicks.

But powerful boxers like Tyson might have literally killed someone with those tiny gloves before they could touch him.
 

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Holm has years of training with a top MMA gym and she's a professional kick boxer. She's not comparable to Mayweather whatsoever.
 

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Whose fault is that? Connor was calling all the shots. It's his fault if he wasn't prepared.



Fair enough. But that still doesn't mean he gets a pass for not being prepared.



Yeah, he's come back to reality pretty quickly.

lol. Okay. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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Rousey was a draw why? Because she was female and an unbeatable wrecking machine. That's the only reason why anyone cared. She's not a personality. She doesn't have half the charisma to sell a fight like McGregor. Now she's not unbeatable. People know that. Her invincibility is gone. Her rematch will be huge but anything after that won't be nearly as big as that.

With McGregor you either love him or hate him. He'll be a huge draw until he retires. He didn't come into the UFC unbeaten as Rousey did. He wasn't female. He was just wrecking fools and running his mouth. That hasn't changed. He's still the greatest FW the sport has ever seen and he's going to attempt to take the LW title too. All that will sell big numbers. From people who want to see him do it and people panicked and desperately hoping he won't.

With this fight he's now got the 3 biggest Vegas gates in the UFC's history.

If I'm the UFC I'm far more worried about replacing Rousey's impact than McGregor. Because those two are really the only big draws in the entire sport and if she retires soon like she said she would they will definitely feel the effects of it. McGregor can only fight so many times in a year.

Excellent points.

Tito Ortiz comes to mind as someone who was a draw for quite a while even after a loss (Or losses) because of his personality and ability to sell people into a fight.
 
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