Uh oh, tight end trouble

[DrKennethNoisewater]

Considering that the field actually has 80 other yards that Escobar will have to play on, I'd like our 2nd rounder to be more than a jump ball specialist.

 

[superpunk]

So a completely different offensive set than the season before...hopefully you can see the difference.

No, I just explained that. Same set - hopefully run more if we can get the competence of our second TE at least back to Marty B levels when we ran 12 personnel more.

TBH the whole idea of some sort of "base set" or offense is so outdated it's ridiculous.

 

[Fredd]

so camp didn't even start and people are getting nervous already??? wow

 

[Macnalty]

I watched Gavin Escobar three or four times last year he jumps off the screen, never saw a problem with him snagging poor passes or jump-balls, he has hands similar or better to Dez and is 6'6" tall. I think Fisher is right Escobar will never be an all pro blocking savant. He is a nightmare to cover and will keep defensive coordinators up late at night.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did Fisher really make the HS girl comparison? I doubt that he did. Either way it's hyperbole. This is the first that I have heard about the rag-dolled thing.

Escobar has 34" arms. Putting up 12 at that length is not good but it certainly doesn't merit the hyperbole. It's been a known issue since day 1. There are also not 'gobs' of HS kids with those meausrements putting up that amount of weight.

Hanna is undersized so I don't know what the uh-oh is unless your talking about not paying attention.

We are a passing offense.

 

[jobberone]

I'm not sure the 12 has been our base but it's been our most productive set. I wouldn't argue much about it being considered our base as we ran it a significant portion of the time. We haven't had a Hanna or an Escobar although many of us thought Bennett would be a move or hybrid TE. I could be wrong but I think we're going to be happy with Escobar as a WR/hybrid and Hanna as a F back/hybrid.

 

[jobberone]

Did Fisher really make the HS girl comparison? I doubt that he did. Either way it's hyperbole. This is the first that I have heard about the rag-dolled thing.

Escobar has 34" arms. Putting up 12 at that length is not good but it certainly doesn't merit the hyperbole. It's been a known issue since day 1. There are also not 'gobs' of HS kids with those meausrements putting up that amount of weight.

Hanna is undersized so I don't know what the uh-oh is unless your talking about not paying attention.

We are a passing offense.

Agree. I think Hanna has the potential to be very good. He's so fast and athletic. I don't consider him small at 6-4 245 or so. That's a huge WR and his build is great for a F back IMO.

 

[dmq]

I think anyone expecting anything more than marginal stats from Escobar this first year are crazy.

 

[jobberone]

I think anyone expecting anything more than marginal stats from Escobar this first year are crazy.

30+ catches and 5-7 TDs would be golden. Not predicting that but its not out of the question either.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

Escobar will succeed in the passing game due to his size and ability to stretch the field.

Depending on his work ethic, we'll see how much he can improve his blocking.

I think he'll turn out to be a good player.

 

[Plankton]

I have a feeling that a lot of the work that Escobar will be getting with the coaching staff is on technique. He's more than long enough to use leverage in blocking rather than brute strength. He will be fine - this is not a concern.

As for Hanna, he didn't play in a traditional offense in college, and was a WR for a good portion of his stay at Oklahoma. Being that he would serve as more of a move TE anyway, I'm not especially worried here either. As long as he can threaten LBs and Ss up the seam, he will help diversify the offense.

 

[texbumthelife]

Sounds like we just won the Clowney sweepstakes! Sweet! Now I know why they didn't resign Spencer.

 

[kirkjrk]

Escobar is a Cowboy now, so I'm 100% behind him to succeed.
But given all of our needs, using a 2nd rounder on him was a real head-scratcher for me.

I've been thinking ever since Rosario was signed that he didn't fill the void for a blocking TE. I would like to see the Team give Andre Smith plenty of reps to see what he has in the tank. He was known as a good to real good blocking/receiving TE in college and he played on 3 or 4 units on special teams. His combine 40 was 4.78. 6' 5", 267lbs. Possibly he could play some H back, even Colchart played H back in college..

Who knows, maybe something good will come of it if they give him a chance

 

[Sb or Bust]

All Escobar and Hanna have to do is get in the way of LB, bare minimum. It would be great if they could lead block or create holes, but it is what it is.

 

[NextGenBoys]

All I can say is this: with all the talk, preparation, moves being made, etc. concerning the switch to the 12 personnel for the past several months, there is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for the coaching staff to have misjudged our roster so badly. I'm going to assume everything is going to plan or they have a reliable plan in place because if not then the offensive staff/scouts really screwed the pooch on this one. How long has the transition to the 12 package been underway? They better be on top of it.

Since 2006 with Anthony Fasano, another wasted 2nd round pick.

I'd rather have an offense where we spread them out, ala the Saints. Murray would have plenty of room to use his vision and cuts, and Romo having Dez, Austin, Harris, and Witten/Williams on the field would be tough to stop. We need better route combinations, and less 2/3 man routes with everyone else blocking.

 

[LatinMind]

i thought contact was forbidden in OTAs now. Escobar cant block the dummies?

 

[Little Jr]

Welli heard fish last night and I didn't really take away the sam thing as the op. Plus we didn't draft escobar for his blocking ability so I really don't know why that is such a shock.

 

[rwalters31]

Well here is how I look at it. Those who can't play, coach. Those who can't coach, manage. Those who can't even manage do something else, like being a TV personality. Those who are too ugly for that....write and report. So the communicative property says this guy is ugly and knows nothing about what he is reporting. Watch Escobar turn out to be awesome! Good post erod.

While! Don't sugar coat it!

 

[Idgit]

TE is literally the last position on this roster I'm worried about. I'll give Fisher his due, but it's early, and we have a ton of talent at that position group.

 

[jobberone]

TE is literally the last position on this roster I'm worried about. I'll give Fisher his due, but it's early, and we have a ton of talent at that position group.

I agree. While Hanna hasn't done much and Escobar nothing, I don't see them both failing. And Witten and Rosario are solid vets are in Witten's case HOF bound. Not worried about TE. It's generally a position you haven't worried about a great deal that bites you in the fanny anyway.