Underappreciated Ronald Jones?

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I'm guilty........



November 15, 2020.

This is 2023.

That was a bye weekend for DAL, incidentally, but the next Sunday, Zeke ran for 100 yards... I'd suggest the relevance is the same... ie, none.


Cannot bring myself to pretend his most recent demotion in KC... barely played at all... should be set aside from consideration. To the contrary, you wanna talk about relevance, that is at the top of the list. It's not that he can't possibly regain his former production. But to expect that to happen, if you're not related to Ronald (in which case, you get a pass), is fan malpractice.
 

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If he is getting a lot of carries it certainly wouldn't be bad. They wouldn't give him a lot of carries if he was bad.
The Cowboys would not have signed him up, if they thought he was bad ....
 

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The Cowboys would not have signed him up, if they thought he was bad ....
They signed him as a depth move that gave them a veteran on a very team friendly deal. He can either make it or they can cut him and the cost was almost nothing. Jones took the 100k guranteed and gets to stay at home while he tries to make it another year in the league.
 

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Well, his dad didn't have anything to do with scouting him.

Vaughn was the #1 player on their board when they were on the clock.
That's the 1st negative comment I've made about Deuce. I think he's going to be good to great, but after the hoopla (?) displayed when they drafted him I also think his Dad was a big reason behind their choice. I could be wrong, but it raises my eyebrows a little bit..
 

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That's the 1st negative comment I've made about Deuce. I think he's going to be good to great, but after the hoopla (?) displayed when they drafted him I also think his Dad was a big reason behind their choice. I could be wrong, but it raises my eyebrows a little bit..
The big reason for them drafting him was what he can do on the field and he was the highest rated player on their board and they needed a running back.
 

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I think that Pollard and Vaughn are locks and whoever makes the team after those 2 will have to play very well in camp. I think that they keep 4. I'll guess Pollard, Vaughn, Davis, and Luepke. I think that all 6 are going to look good in camp.
To me, if we keep 4 anything, should be TE. What is a 4th RB going to do? Why not have a guy like Princeton Fant or Luepke play both 3rd RB, FB and TE?
 

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Pollard is absolutely the only lock.

Everyone else with RB beside his name had best go to Oxnard intending to impress and win a job, because that's what it's going to take.
 

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after the hoopla (?) displayed when they drafted him I also think his Dad was a big reason behind their choice.
We know that isn't true. He didn't even know the Cowboys were going to pick Deuce until they were on the clock.

He literally had nothing to do with it. The Cowboys did that on purpose so people wouldn't question them about it.
 

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To me, if we keep 4 anything, should be TE. What is a 4th RB going to do? Why not have a guy like Princeton Fant or Luepke play both 3rd RB, FB and TE?
Luepke is an interesting player.
 

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We know that isn't true. He didn't even know the Cowboys were going to pick Deuce until they were on the clock.

He literally had nothing to do with it. The Cowboys did that on purpose so people wouldn't question them about it.
I think you're reading a little too much into my comment. I'm not against our drafting Deuce at all.

His Dad may not have known, but the rest of them did. I'm a tech(sass) which means I'm an opportunistic pessimist by nature.
 
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I agree with this. But we all know he won't be getting the ball that many times. That's never been the plan.
Yes agreed, but I don’t have faith that Malik and Ronald can be adequate complementary backs to Pollard which is why I’d be exploring other options. I know Cook wants a lot of money and Henry would cost a pick but we are close enough someone like that might push us over the top during a year where no teams really scare me.
 

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Usually it's the Jones's trying to overhype every jag on the roster. This call is coming from inside the house.

Underappreciated? Stop it.
 

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I mean 98 yards is longer than Zeke's long the last 3 years ;). I don't know why Jones didn't get many carries with KC, but he was probably the 3rd or 4th guy the moment he walked in the door so I would imagine his opportunities weren't as plentiful. Sometimes it works out that way. With Jones he's not flashy or a make you miss runner, but he runs with good power is a N/S 1 cut type of runner with solid vision. I mentioned before I liken it to an Alfred Morris type signining. Solid veteran who provides some insurance in the room.

We don't know what we have in Vaughn or Davis yet, but I like their upside better than what we had #1 on the depth chart last year.
I’m not saying anything. I’m simply saying if pollard goes down we’re in trouble. You bring up Jones being a number 2 and that’s fine, but what happens if he’s thrown into a starting role. This FO has a history of thinking they are ok at a position and not factoring in the what if. Look at WR last season. Look at OL last season. We had to scramble to bring in an out of shape Peters because the FO believed tyron would be healthy all year.
 

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I mean 98 yards is longer than Zeke's long the last 3 years ;). I don't know why Jones didn't get many carries with KC, but he was probably the 3rd or 4th guy the moment he walked in the door so I would imagine his opportunities weren't as plentiful. Sometimes it works out that way. With Jones he's not flashy or a make you miss runner, but he runs with good power is a N/S 1 cut type of runner with solid vision. I mentioned before I liken it to an Alfred Morris type signining. Solid veteran who provides some insurance in the room.

We don't know what we have in Vaughn or Davis yet, but I like their upside better than what we had #1 on the depth chart last year.
Jones had an incentive laiden deal.

KC went the cheap route and made Jones inactive. Jones then requested a release/trade.

The reason why he didn't play was far less about ability and far more about money.
 

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The big reason for them drafting him was what he can do on the field and he was the highest rated player on their board and they needed a running back.
They thought they needed a RB sooo bad that they basically waited until the 7th round to get one? Right.

Deuce wasn't getting drafted by anyone but us. I dont know who was still on the board when we picked that would have had a chance. Luepke comes to mind. I would have drafted him over Vaughn.
 

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I’m not saying anything. I’m simply saying if pollard goes down we’re in trouble. You bring up Jones being a number 2 and that’s fine, but what happens if he’s thrown into a starting role. This FO has a history of thinking they are ok at a position and not factoring in the what if. Look at WR last season. Look at OL last season. We had to scramble to bring in an out of shape Peters because the FO believed tyron would be healthy all year.
My guess if Pollard goes down for the year, we will likely see a trade to upgrade the position, otherwise why do it now rather than waiting until it happens? Also, read a tweet last week where someone suggested maybe they wanna give Pollard a chance to prove he can be the guy before offering him a long-term deal. Most fans/media are assuming Pollard will walk. But I do agree with their history of not being more proactive at times.........like kickers now.
 

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I can't find a single post of posters suggesting he's better than Pollard or should start. Hell, just last week, I posted my concern about not drafting or signing a legit RB to share to load with TP. Just me, but after seeing some highlights, I think he'll do fine AS A BACKUP, which was stated in the OP.
He is a quality #2, rotational type and should be fine in that role.
 
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