Up until now I have steered clear of the Roy Williams debate...

Once again, I don't understand all the criticism of Roy Williams. I mean, the guy made the Pro Bowl, thus one of the best safeties in the league.
 
Burgundy&Gold;1904328 said:
Once again, I don't understand all the criticism of Roy Williams. I mean, the guy made the Pro Bowl, thus one of the best safeties in the league.

Go to hell dude. At least he's still alive.


Sorry mods, I tried not to type it, but couldn't stop myself.
 
AmishCowboy;1904351 said:
He's covering better then Sean Taylor.

ridiculous...Taylor suffered in coverage one year...he was a beast in coverage this season with that new strategy of playing 15-20 yards deep and attacking.
 
wayne motley;1904368 said:
ridiculous...Taylor suffered in coverage one year...he was a beast in coverage this season with that new strategy of playing 15-20 yards deep and attacking.

Perhaps Wade should try this.
 
AmishCowboy;1904426 said:
Perhaps Wade should try this.

I thought they moved him to FS this year, because of the addition of Landry... Roy would suck at FS....
 
Don't worry guys. Roy is changing to number 38 next year. We have reason to believe again......

I once change my number from 3 to 10 and already I felt a difference. I think I felt faster then before, more confident, stronger, and smarter. Well, the new guy got my number and 10 was the only number left...

My coach even said I was a big mac away from a free safety. Or was that a big mac away from a heart attack?
 
QuanTran;1904469 said:
Don't worry guys. Roy is changing to number 38 next year. We have reason to believe again......

I once change my number from 3 to 10 and already I felt a difference. I think I felt faster then before, more confident, stronger, and smarter. Well, the new guy got my number and 10 was the only number left...

My coach even said I was a big mac away from a free safety. Or was that a big mac away from a heart attack?
ok but this was probably when you were in highschool(?) were talking about a 6 year pro
 
I'm kidding bro...

Number change didnt do ****znik for me as I doubt it will do for Roy...
 
YoMick;1903063 said:
I always liked Roy... never bashed him on here... I may have called him on a few plays and his horsecollar.... but... he just needs to retire.

All I see is him falling down.... missing tackles.... it almost looks like a woman out there trying to play with these guys.

Its getting hard to watch him.

Draft a hard hitting safety that can wrap up in the first round. Atleast then we have someone that can help stop the run.


"Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you (Woo woo woo).
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
"Joltin' Joe has left and gone away" (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey)."


Just replace Joe DiMaggio with Roy Williams.
Watching Roy try to play safety is a lot like watching Emmitt try to talk.
 
jdub2k4;1903638 said:
The problem with Roy is that he is trying too hard to not mess up. It's just like a boxer that is thinking too much, trying not to get knocked out instead of just following his instincts and as a result....ends up getting knocked the luck out.

The coaching staff knows this, which is why they made an effort to "dumb it down" for Roy. But because the other teams gameplan to isolate him anyway, that doesn't work. He is simply lost out there. As a fan of humanity, I hope Roy can get it together. But as a fan of this team, I hope he gets it together somewhere else, because we cannot continue to win with him as a liability and teams gameplanning to exploit him on a weekly basis.

Side note: You've gotta love his failed attempt for an Int when he dove awkardly to intercept the ball before the ball had even made it into reasonable interception range and the ball ended up falling about 5 yards ahead. when I saw that, I just chuckled to myself and said, "theres our pro-bowl SS."

BTW, I said I would be back to talk draft, so here are players that I think could replace Roy at ranges that wouldn't break the bank.

Josh Barrett, SS, Arizona State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 231.
40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round: 2-3

Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP
Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
40 Time: 4.46.
Projected Round: 2-3

Simeon Castille, FS, Alabama
Height: 6-1. Weight: 193.
40 Time: 4.55.
Projected Round: 3.

Marcus Griffin, FS, Texas
Height: 6-0. Weight: 202.
40 Time: 4.47.
Projected Round: 3

Caleb Campbell, SS, Army
Height: 6-2. Weight: 223.
40 Time: 4.47.
Projected Round: 3-4

Wesley Woodyard, SS, Kentucky
Height: 6-1. Weight: 212.
40 Time: 4.41.
Projected Round: 3-4

Bobbie Williams, FS, Bethune-Cookman
Height: 6-0. Weight: 190.
40 Time: 4.44.
Projected Round: 4

Darien Williams, FS, Oklahoma
Height: 6-0. Weight: 197.
40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round: 5

Josh Pinkard*, FS, USC
Height: 6-1. Weight: 215.
40 Time: 4.44.
Projected Round: 5-6
Just say no to Marcus Griffin.
 
Its pathetic watching Roy always chasing backs and wide receivers as the go bye him. He's not even hitting people anymore.

I'm very down on Roys play this year.
 
CowboyWay;1904361 said:
Go to hell dude. At least he's still alive.


Sorry mods, I tried not to type it, but couldn't stop myself.

I made a sarcastic joke about the Pro Bowl selection process and you tell me "at least he's still alive."

Immature.
Heartless.
Despicable.

You are pathetic.
 
jdub2k4;1903638 said:
The problem with Roy is that he is trying too hard to not mess up. It's just like a boxer that is thinking too much, trying not to get knocked out instead of just following his instincts and as a result....ends up getting knocked the luck out.

The coaching staff knows this, which is why they made an effort to "dumb it down" for Roy. But because the other teams gameplan to isolate him anyway, that doesn't work. He is simply lost out there. As a fan of humanity, I hope Roy can get it together. But as a fan of this team, I hope he gets it together somewhere else, because we cannot continue to win with him as a liability and teams gameplanning to exploit him on a weekly basis.

Side note: You've gotta love his failed attempt for an Int when he dove awkardly to intercept the ball before the ball had even made it into reasonable interception range and the ball ended up falling about 5 yards ahead. when I saw that, I just chuckled to myself and said, "theres our pro-bowl SS."

BTW, I said I would be back to talk draft, so here are players that I think could replace Roy at ranges that wouldn't break the bank.

Josh Barrett, SS, Arizona State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 231.
40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round: 2-3

Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP
Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
40 Time: 4.46.
Projected Round: 2-3

Simeon Castille, FS, Alabama
Height: 6-1. Weight: 193.
40 Time: 4.55.
Projected Round: 3.

Marcus Griffin, FS, Texas
Height: 6-0. Weight: 202.
40 Time: 4.47.
Projected Round: 3

Caleb Campbell, SS, Army
Height: 6-2. Weight: 223.
40 Time: 4.47.
Projected Round: 3-4

Wesley Woodyard, SS, Kentucky
Height: 6-1. Weight: 212.
40 Time: 4.41.
Projected Round: 3-4

Bobbie Williams, FS, Bethune-Cookman
Height: 6-0. Weight: 190.
40 Time: 4.44.
Projected Round: 4

Darien Williams, FS, Oklahoma
Height: 6-0. Weight: 197.
40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round: 5

Josh Pinkard*, FS, USC
Height: 6-1. Weight: 215.
40 Time: 4.44.
Projected Round: 5-6


I'd prefer to move Hamlin to SS and see if Watkins can take on FS. Or draft a FS/CB Type.
 
Burgundy&Gold;1904822 said:
I made a sarcastic joke about the Pro Bowl selection process and you tell me "at least he's still alive."

Immature.
Heartless.
Despicable.

You are pathetic.

Well then shut the hell up and go away if you're so hurt by his comments. Making your dumb "sarcastic" jokes on here just to piss people off isn't very mature either. You have no say in whether or not Roy is good or should be in the Pro Bowl. If you want a voice or some respect go ur own team's site instead of bothering us with ur garbage comments you $%#$.
 
wayne motley;1904368 said:
ridiculous...Taylor suffered in coverage one year...he was a beast in coverage this season with that new strategy of playing 15-20 yards deep and attacking.

I think he was talking about NOW. And, that's even debateable.
 
khiladi;1900615 said:
Package him with Carpenter and a first round to get McFadden...

We may need to hang on to Carpenter so he can replace Akin Ayodele. We definately need an ILB next to James. Burnett may be that guy, or Carp, but it ain't Akin.
 
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