Update: Dolphins agree to deal with Jeff Ireland...To leave immediately

[theogt]

So he was fat and happy here and didn't care about job advancement, just wanted to stay at one place forever? Sounds like the kind of go-getter I want as my lead scout.

Being fat and happy and not caring about job advancement obviously means he can't spot college talent.

You're right, nobody knows, but looking at this on the surface and taking into special account Jerry's history, I feel pretty safe in my assumption until proven otherwsie.

Translation: I'm a troll and I'll troll until I'm proven wrong. Then I'll disappear until the opportunity to troll again arises. Long live the trolls!

 

[Beast_from_East]

This bothers me because Parcells came to lay a foundation for the Cowboys...but now he is ripping it out? I dunno, i don’t understand it all and i guess if nobody else is bothered by it then i shouldn’t.

Do the words "Benedict Arnold" ring a bell.

 

[windward]

So he was fat and happy here and didn't care about job advancement, just wanted to stay at one place forever? Sounds like the kind of go-getter I want as my lead scout.

You are avoiding the meat of what I'm saying, that he has been promoted( yes, that means career advancement) and that the fact that Ireland may have been a better hire does not preclude that Ciskowski is a bad hire. You brought logic into this discussion, yet you fail to acknowledge your logical fallacies.

You're right, nobody knows, but looking at this on the surface and taking into special account Jerry's history, I feel pretty safe in my assumption until proven otherwsie.

Yet your assumption is based on zero evidence. You admit you're looking at this "on the surface" That's pretty appropriate considering the entire slant of your argument has been superficial at best.

 

[theogt]

Do the words "Benedict Arnold" ring a bell.

Do the words "not on our payroll" ring a bell?

 

[Use Your Illusion]

You are avoiding the meat of what I'm saying, that he has been promoted( yes, that means career advancement) and that the fact that Ireland may have been a better hire does not preclude that Ciskowski is a bad hire. You brought logic into this discussion, yet you fail to acknowledge your logical fallacies.

No, I acknowledge the fact that he's been promoted, but I think this organization should strive for the best, not just "good enough" or "status quo", which is what this hire screams out to me when you have a guy who has done the same thing with the same team for so long.

Yet your assumption is based on zero evidence. You admit you're looking at this "on the surface" That's pretty appropriate considering the entire slant of your argument has been superficial at best.

Everyone here is assuming. All we do on this board is assume and discuss. Without assumptions what is the point of a discussion board?

 

[Use Your Illusion]

And whether Ciswkowski ends up being good or not, it can't be ignored how inexcusable it is for Jerry to let Ireland walk for nothing all so he can keep playing fake GM of this team.

 

[SDogo]

Relax buddy, I was getting totally pissed and then I realized the Dolphins are in the same division with the Pats.

Parcells aint winning jack till Brady and Hoodie retire

I'm ok now. I'm just pissed Parcells does not have enough respect for the Cowboys or Jerry Jones to wait until after the draft. He basically pissed on months of hard work Jerry paid Ireland for to prepare this team for the draft and FA signing period.

 

[theogt]

And whether Ciswkowski ends up being good or not, it can't be ignored how inexcusable it is for Jerry to let Ireland walk for nothing all so he can keep playing fake GM of this team.

Ignored? How about applauded?

 

[iceberg]

And whether Ciswkowski ends up being good or not, it can't be ignored how inexcusable it is for Jerry to let Ireland walk for nothing all so he can keep playing fake GM of this team.

um...he has final say, right? always has, right?
yet, when we're in slam mode, he's a fake GM...

you can't stop someone from progressing in their job. i refuse to believe that ireland is THE ONLY MAN IN THE WORLD who can help the cowboys. yes he's good. that's why he's getting promoted so fast.

if you had irelands job and wanted to go to miami, would you be happy that jerry forced you to stay in dallas?

if you wanted to come to dallas, would you still if the owner stops you from progressing your own career?

you're just excuse hunting to slap on jones it would seem.

 

[Use Your Illusion]

um...he has final say, right? always has, right?
yet, when we're in slam mode, he's a fake GM...

you can't stop someone from progressing in their job. i refuse to believe that ireland is THE ONLY MAN IN THE WORLD who can help the cowboys. yes he's good. that's why he's getting promoted so fast.

if you had irelands job and wanted to go to miami, would you be happy that jerry forced you to stay in dallas?

if you wanted to come to dallas, would you still if the owner stops you from progressing your own career?

you're just excuse hunting to slap on jones it would seem.

He's a fake GM. Thinks he's a football guy when in reality, he's only succeeded when he gives up control to actual football guys.

Could have done that in this situation, but instead decided to let Ireland go so he can keep being the fake GM.

 

[windward]

No, I acknowledge the fact that he's been promoted, but I think this organization should strive for the best, not just "good enough" or "status quo", which is what this hire screams out to me when you have a guy who has done the same thing with the same team for so long.



Everyone here is assuming. All we do on this board is assume and discuss. Without assumptions what is the point of a discussion board?

Whatever, there's little I or anyone can do to convince you otherwise of your negative agenda. In the past few months since you've joined you've written about how much we suck, are a terribly coached team etc... without anything positive to say about the Dallas Cowboys. That's fine.

Given your past post history I could logically assume that you are not a Dallas Cowboys fan and instead are a troll that magnifies the flaws and minimizes the positives of the Dallas Cowboys.

I feel pretty safe in my assumption until proven otherwise.

 

[iceberg]

He's a fake GM. Thinks he's a football guy when in reality, he's only succeeded when he gives up control to actual football guys.

Could have done that in this situation, but instead decided to let Ireland go so he can keep being the fake GM.

so in other words, anything to hate jones, right. back to ignore. memory refreshed.

 

[Use Your Illusion]

so in other words, anything to hate jones, right. back to ignore. memory refreshed.

Are you denying anything I said? I have plenty of reasons to hate Jerry, and they are outlined in that post.

 

[Use Your Illusion]

Whatever, there's little I or anyone can do to convince you otherwise of your negative agenda. In the past few months since you've joined you've written about how much we suck, are a terribly coached team etc... without anything positive to say about the Dallas Cowboys. That's fine.

Given your past post history I could logically assume that you are not a Dallas Cowboys fan and instead are a troll that magnifies the flaws and minimizes the positives of the Dallas Cowboys.

I feel pretty safe in my assumption until proven otherwise.

I'm honored that you've been keeping such close tabs on my posting, but I don't really give a crap what you think of me and it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

 

[zrinkill]

He's a fake GM. Thinks he's a football guy when in reality, he's only succeeded when he gives up control to actual football guys.

Could have done that in this situation, but instead decided to let Ireland go so he can keep being the fake GM.

Wow ..... you are reaching Edunce level of stupidity.

 

[zrinkill]

In the past few months since you've joined you've written about how much we suck, are a terribly coached team etc... without anything positive to say about the Dallas Cowboys.
Given your past post history I could logically assume that you are not a Dallas Cowboys fan and instead are a troll that magnifies the flaws and minimizes the positives of the Dallas Cowboys.

I feel pretty safe in my assumption until proven otherwise.

Yup .... this guy has been a Troll from the start.

 

[iceberg]

Yup .... this guy has been a Troll from the start.

i had to take him off ignore for a bit to remember why i put him there. took about 2-3 posts. zero to ignore in 3 posts! : ) had to put him back.

he's picking a fight and i'm tired of the 'beautiful posters' - ya know?

 

[Use Your Illusion]

Anyone who disagrees with the majority of sheep here is automatically a "troll"? Got it.

Now can we get back to the topic of the post? You are all derailing this thread more than any "troll" could ever do.

 

[windward]

I'm honored that you've been keeping such close tabs on my posting, but I don't really give a crap what you think of me and it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

That post went wayyyyy over your head, pal.

I don't know you and how much you cheer for the Cowboys outside of this forum. There could be other circumstances that explain your comments (although I don't know what they may be) yet you are willing to make assumptions about Ciskowski for which you have no evidence.

 

[zrinkill]

Anyone who disagrees with the majority of sheep here is automatically a "troll"? Got it.

Now can we get back to the topic of the post? You are all derailing this thread more than any "troll" could ever do.

Anyone who only posts negative crap about his 13-3 division leading team since he joined 5 months ago is.