Update | Team denies interest in M. Turner

[Sandyf]

Again beauty is in the eye of the beholder here. Turner has shown ability on the field several times in subing for LT enough for teams to know what they would get.

In this draft, other than Peterson, it is a crap shoot. Lynch may be fairly good and so might the kid from Penn State (I just would never take a Penn State RB) and so might Pittman from Ohio St. But none of them have shown anything that says they could be a very good RB in the pros. Turner has or there wouldn't be any interest.

If I'm the Bills and my choice is Lynch or give up a 1st for Turner, I take Turner. Now giving up both a 1st and 3rd is another matter but if you have nothing (and they don't) then maybe it isn't such a high price.

Comparing a trade for Turner vs Alexander/James is nothing near the same. Check the age and wear and tear not to mention injuries. Believe Turner will win out on all those and it is a big factor. Plus the money you will have to give Turner in a contract won't nearly be as high.

Are we interested, seriously I doubt it. It probably is just letting know that Julius might be available for the right price plus the fact he is in the last year of his contract.

We might not see Turner worth more that a 2 or 3 but I guarantee that other teams especially Buffalo see him worth far more, just how much is yet to be determined.

 

[RW31]

Turner has shown less then MB3 has. And they want a first and third?
After what McGahee and other RBs have gone for over the last couple of years, they must KNOW that no one is that stupid- not even the skins or Matt Millen. Sources said. Sure. Which janitor said this?

who cares what he has shown so far? using that logic nfl teams shouldnt be allowed to draft any players because they have yet to play a down in the nfl

we're talking about upside. matt schaub hasnt really shown anything either and the texans still gave up two 2nd round picks for him. again: its all about upside. and with his ridiculous combination of size, speed and vision i would LOVE to have him on my team. brian dawkins my ***, try to tackle this dude, he will slap you out of the stadium.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If I'm the Bills and my choice is Lynch or give up a 1st for Turner, I take Turner. Now giving up both a 1st and 3rd is another matter but if you have nothing (and they don't) then maybe it isn't such a high price.

Buffalo has to have a plan. You don't just trade away a back like McGahee without one.

 

[tomson75]

In this draft, other than Peterson, it is a crap shoot.

I find Peterson's inability to stay healthy a bit of a gamble too. There's no such thing as a "sure thing."

 

[WoodysGirl]

Buffalo has to have a plan. You don't just trade away a back like McGahee without one.

McGahee had made it clear that he didn't want to be there anymore and there was no chance of him re-signing. So a trade was the best bet.

POSTED 8:10 p.m. EDT, March 25, 2007

McGAHEE MIGHT NOT WANT TO GO BACK TO BUFFALO

The Buffalo Bills traded running back Willis McGahee to the Baltimore Ravens. In 2007, the Buffalo Bills play the Baltimore Ravens.

And the game is scheduled to be played in Buffalo.

On the surface, the notion of McGahee heading back to Western New York doesn't have the same sex appeal as T.O.'s return to the Linc. But, by the time the game is played, the venom flowing from the local fans to their former star could eclipse the hatred that folks in Philly felt for Terrell Owens.

If, of course, McGahee continues to run his mouth.

"I couldn't wait to get out of there," McGahee told the Baltimore Sun regarding his former home. He fled after the season ended, and had no intention of returning.

When the trade to Baltimore went through, McGahee got his wish. "I was yelling and [stuff], running through the whole house, screaming, 'Yes! Yes!'" McGahee said. "It was such a relief."

So what was the problem with Buffalo?

"Coming from Miami, I was used to partying, going out, just having something to do every night. Restaurants, whatever. Going to Buffalo, it was like hitting a brick wall. Like, 'Damn!' Can't go out, can't do nothing. There's an Applebee's, a TGI Friday's, and they just got a Dave & Busters. They got that, and I'm like, 'What the?' And, you know, the women . . . ."

What about the women, Willis? Please, elaborate. Because we can't wait to see the welcome that those women will provide when you come back, hopefully for a prime time game.

"You see, when I was in college that's what I used to thrive off of," McGahee said of his status in Miami. "The better you do, the more fame you get. So you know, it was like, I was used to that. And then you get to Buffalo and no matter how you do, it's the same. It's no big city. You know what I did every day? I came home and played video games."

Frankly, there are far worse things McGahee could have been doing. We realize that most NFL players are young men who crave the adoration and all that that implies. But life is a lot more than hanging out in clubs and being surrounded by people who would never tell you anything you don't want to hear. The sooner that every NFL player understands this, the sooner we'll be able to quit tracking so many player arrests.

 

[rynochop]

Jones is in the last year of his contract. .

Thats why he shouldn't be traded. Contract year...and a year we'll be going for it. Adds up.

 

[sago1]

This is absolutely a nonsense move. Give up our first and a 3rd, no way. He's not worth anywhere near that and it's not a major need. I don't even understand why Cowboys would show any interest. Last time I checked he couldn't play CB or NT and sure doesn't help us advance. He also can't play on our OL nor replace TO/Glenn someday. I don't care if he comes a lot cheaper by us trading Julius Jones for him. This would be a disaster for the Cowboys and a step backwards.

 

[DallasEast]

On the surface, the notion of McGahee heading back to Western New York doesn't have the same sex appeal as T.O.'s return to the Linc. But, by the time the game is played, the venom flowing from the local fans to their former star could eclipse the hatred that folks in Philly felt for Terrell Owens.

Bad comparison. The fans in Philadelphia are rabid. I'll say it's a good comparison if I spot any fans foaming at the mouth in Ralph Wilson Stadium that day.

 

[burmafrd]

McGahee really is a skirt chaser big time. Gonna get him in BIG trouble one of these days. Some pissed off boyfriend with a shotgun probably.

 

[iceberg]

A 1st and a 3rd? Color me no interested. I'm sticking with Julius.

i'd have to agree. we could move up and get lynch for a 1st and 3rd possibly. or we can just go with what we have now and see what they can do w/julius. no way do i want to trade say - meacham and an OL prospect for a RB who's hype is running after the best LB in the league.

 

[Thunderstruck]

You guys would be getting a 240 lb feature back who runs with all the power and ferocity you'd expect from a 240-lb back but also has breakaway speed. Put it this way--he has as many runs of 70+ yards in his career as LT, and the only guy who was able to run him down from behind was Pacman Jones. He broke more tackles than any back I've ever seen and he also showed his speed and field awareness on kick-returns.

He'd be the most physically gifted back you've had since Herschel Walker.

Turner has a very special set of tools. The only question about him is whether he can handle the pounding of a full NFL season... but he was a workhorse in college.

I'm not saying you should give up a first-and-third for him. I don't think that will happen. But he's dominant enough and versatile enough that if we don't get at least a very high second-rounder for him I think we'll probably just keep him. After all...we will be trying to make a run this year and he makes us and LT better.

Oh, and his stats for last year are for 13 games.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports the Dallas Cowboys have shown interest in San Diego Chargers restricted free agent RB Michael Turner.




DO IT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Good by Julius Jones.

I wouldn't dare give up a first and third for this guy...

I think you mean...."NOW", instead of "KNOW"..

1st round pick for this guy? He's a nice player, but he's never been the lead dog and most of his running is after LT has loosened up the defense. Let's hold on to our draft picks, especially when we have a very good rb combo already in place.

Agreed, see what this Wade Phillips mess had done already...

why would we give up our first and third for a guy we could have drafted in 4 different rounds? I dont get it.

I think he is a good player, but I would not give a first or a third up for any free agent. That is bad business.

Those picks are better suited in the draft. We are not desperate at running back.

We are desperate for pass rushers and young lineman. So why give up draft picks?

I couldn't agree more!

 

[WoodysGirl]

You guys would be getting a 240 lb feature back who runs with all the power and ferocity you'd expect from a 240-lb back but also has breakaway speed. Put it this way--he has as many runs of 70+ yards in his career as LT, and the only guy who was able to run him down from behind was Pacman Jones. He broke more tackles than any back I've ever seen and he also showed his speed and field awareness on kick-returns.

Feature back? I don't think so. He's a backup right now.

As it pertain to the 'boys, I see Hambrick all over again. But he also reminds me of Lamont Jordan who excelled behind Curtis Martin and has been horrible in Oak (For what that's worth). I also see Derrick Blaylock who shined behind Priest Holmes and stunk it up in NY and I think he was cut after the season ended.

He'd be the most physically gifted back you've had since Herschel Walker.

Herschel Walker? You must've missed those years we had Emmitt, then.

Turner has a very special set of tools. The only question about him is whether he can handle the pounding of a full NFL season... but he was a workhorse in college.

I'm not saying you should give up a first-and-third for him. I don't think that will happen. But he's dominant enough and versatile enough that if we don't get at least a very high second-rounder for him I think we'll probably just keep him. After all...we will be trying to make a run this year and he makes us and LT better.

Oh, and his stats for last year are for 13 games.

I'm not saying Turner is either one of those guys, I mentioned above, but he's just not somebody I'd want the 'boys to trade for or give big dollars too at this point.

It's not about wanting to see what Julius or Barber can do this year. Good runningbacks can be had in the draft every year. And this position is just not that big of a need to where I think the 'boys need to address it by trading high picks.

 

[tomson75]

Agreed, see what this Wade Phillips mess had done already...

What mess? Are you referring to the "mess" he's made by addressing the OL and FS through free agency, or the "mess" he's made by resigning and extending contracts of our current players? Maybe your upset that he's extending the workouts? Maybe becasue he's going to add more on field training so our players actually know what they're doing on the field?

Has he even "done" anything here? As far as you or I know, this is purely speculation.

Lame.

 

[theebs]

Buffalo has to have a plan. You don't just trade away a back like McGahee without one.

Buffalo got nothing for travis henry a few years ago because they thought he was not serious about leaving and would resign. He left, they got nothing, lesson learned.

They are not going to let that happen again. They will draft someone and use a committee I would imagine.

 

[CF74]

I really like this guy and have stated several times that he's both JJ and Barber in one package but I'm not quite ready to give up on JJ just yet. After this season if JJ still portrays mediocre performance then it's time to draft somebody or pick up a Turner...

 

[Achozen]

A first and a third?

SD's drinking the kool-aid.

 

[TDH]

i cant honestly believe they think they are gonna get that. i just read on scott wrights site that they are probably just fishing for a 2nd rd pick for him. That seems like a good deal for them, and it may be worth it to someone??? Us - i think we are gonna need that 2nd for a DT, assuming we go WR/DB/LB in the 1st.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/blog/wrightstuff.html

 

[Thunderstruck]

Feature back? I don't think so. He's a backup right now.

Look who he's behind. He's playing behind the best RB in this era of the NFL. That doesn't change the fact that someone's going to make him a feature-back, and soon.

Larry Johnson was a backup when Priest Holmes was still good. I watch LJ twice a year and more than that since the Chiefs are a divisional rival. LJ has nothing over MT physically.

As it pertain to the 'boys, I see Hambrick all over again. But he also reminds me of Lamont Jordan who excelled behind Curtis Martin and has been horrible in Oak (For what that's worth). I also see Derrick Blaylock who shined behind Priest Holmes and stunk it up in NY and I think he was cut after the season ended.

I remember Hambrick from the "who's going to replace Emmitt" era of the Boys. Hambrick didn't have MT's top-end or his power. Hambrick was much more of an upright runner than MT is...Turner's a bull who has the ability to get leverage and break a ton of tackles, and then shift gears once he gets into the secondary.

Herschel Walker? You must've missed those years we had Emmitt, then.

Michael Turner is more physically gifted than Emmitt. He's bigger, faster, and stronger. He won't be as elusive as Emmitt was, and of course the big question is will he be as durable. That's a question that can't be answered until he gets his shot.

I'm not saying Turner is either one of those guys, I mentioned above, but he's just not somebody I'd want the 'boys to trade for or give big dollars too at this point.

I can understand that. There's always risk involved. If you draft a top-10 RB you're getting a guy who's going to command big money with no track-record of success in the NFL. Yet teams do it anyway. Why does everyone think MT would be an ultra-risky investment while Adrian Peterson--a guy who not only gives up almost 30 pounds to MT and is only a little faster, and who has had durability issues in college--would be a fine pick? Isn't Adrian Peterson just as risky? Why is it that draft picks, the ultimate unproven commodities, have such an inordinately inflated value what the unproven players drafted high in round one deserve BOTH the draft pick and the big money? But a guy like MT, who has already proven he can take on NFL talent and win individual matchups and who has proven he knows how to run in an NFL system, that he's well-behaved and has a great work-ethic, that he's a team-player and great lockerroom guy, that he's made some HUGE plays for us in big games including in the playoffs...he's a huge risk?

It's not about wanting to see what Julius or Barber can do this year. Good runningbacks can be had in the draft every year. And this position is just not that big of a need to where I think the 'boys need to address it by trading high picks.

Draft picks are overvalued. People love the potential of what might be over the guy they have right in front of them. Obviously you need to build through the draft, but I'll never understand why an unproven guy who was good in college is SO much more valuable than a somewhat proven guy who has been terrific in the NFL...and whose combine numbers would stack up well against any of them.

 

[zrinkill]

Michael Turner is more physically gifted than Emmitt.

Man you chargers really are delusional .....