Updated NFC Playoff Picture 12/26

JustChip said:
That’s not correct. Eagles lost to both the Jets and Seahawks, teams we beat. Common Opponents tiebreaker would be tied so it would go to Conference record. This is where losing to AFC teams helps.
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Right. We lost to 49ers, Cards, Miami and Buffalo. They would have lost to the Jets, 49ers, Seahawks and Cardinals.
 
mardwin said:
You are both correct, the 2nd tiebreaker is conference record. Let's hope the Cardinals show up.
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No, it’s not. From the NFL website:

Two Clubs​

  1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  5. Strength of victory in all games.
  6. Strength of schedule in all games
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  9. Best net points in common games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  12. Coin toss
Common Opponents before Conference because teams don’t play the same Conference schedule. It’s the whole 1st Place, 2nd Place, etc. thing. Using Conference before Common Opponents theoretically penalizes the team that plays the 1st place schedule.
 
gimmesix said:
Right. We lost to 49ers, Cards, Miami and Buffalo. They would have lost to the Jets, 49ers, Seahawks and Cardinals.
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Yes, sir. I always eliminate the teams we both beat or lost to and look at the deltas. The Eagles losing to the Cards would nullify the Cowboys loss to the Cards.
 
JustChip said:
No, it’s not. From the NFL website:

Two Clubs​

  1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  5. Strength of victory in all games.
  6. Strength of schedule in all games
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games.
  9. Best net points in common games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  12. Coin toss
Common Opponents before Conference because teams don’t play the same Conference schedule. It’s the whole 1st Place, 2nd Place, etc. thing. Using Conference before Common Opponents theoretically penalizes the team that plays the 1st place schedule.
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If Dallas wins out and Philly loses to Arizona:

H2H is a wash
Division is a wash
Common opponents is a wash
Dallas wins by conference record.

This is all in black and white……
 
Blue&Silver said:
The Giants aren't Seattle at home, and their offense was only able to score 10 points against an Eagles team with a scrub back 7. They don't have the offense that can score the 30 or 40 points the Eagles will drop on them. As I've said the Cardinals have a better chance.
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They don't have to be to beat this Eagles team. As far as the Giants only scoring 10 points on offense. No two games are the same. We do know that Hurts turns the ball over a lot.
 
rambo2 said:
You watch somebody else will post something that isn't correct. I found it funny that the people that are on TV covering the NFL didn't know after the Miami game that the Cowboys have a chance at the 2 and the 1.
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Full disclosure, I mistakenly thought Conference came before Common until last year. And it was a poster on here (don’t remember who) that edified me.
 
Tabascocat said:
If Dallas wins out and Philly loses to Arizona:

H2H is a wash
Division is a wash
Common opponents is a wash
Dallas wins by conference record.

This is all in black and white……
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Easy peezy.
 
I wonder if the Cowboys lose in the wild card round. Does Jerry can Mike McCarthy? I mean we see how long we stayed with Jason Garrett smh.
 
mldardy said:
There is no seems more like anything. We still have a chance to win the division. You can hope off.
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I'm just a realist. That way if expectations are exceeded, great. If not, it is as it has been for a while. I win either way. :)
 
KingCorcoran said:
Football is the only sport where fans delude themselves into believing it is better to look good in a loss than to look bad in a win. That never happens in basketball, hockey, or baseball. The Eagles have played a more difficult schedule through 15 games than the Cowboys, have twice as many wins against teams that currently have winning records, and somehow football fans can rationalize the team with the easier schedule and less wins is the better team. I guess that does make for interesting banter on fan forums. I’m going to check out a Panthers forum and find out why Carolina is actually the best team in the NFL.
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The only thing that matters are the Ws and Ls. As Parcells said, you are what you’re record says you are.

That said, there are no shortage of variables that goes into a particular record, not the least if which is scheduling and the schedules aren’t equal.

The Cowboys played Seattle at home; they play that game in Seattle and Seattle probably wins.

The Eagles played Seattle on the road, they play ghat game at home and Philly probably wins.

Dallas played the Bills and Dolphins on the road. The Bills probably still win if the game was in Dallas, but Dallas probably beats Miami if the game was at home.

Conversely, the Eagles played the Bills and Dolphins at home. Had those games been on the road, the Eagles probably lose to the Bills and a greater chance (maybe not as much as a probable) they lose to the Dolphins.

Where the Bills and Dolphin games were played likely is the difference whether Dallas or Philly wins the Division.
 
JustChip said:
The only thing that matters are the Ws and Ls. As Parcells said, you are what you’re record says you are.

That said, there are no shortage of variables that goes into a particular record, not the least if which is scheduling and the schedules aren’t equal.

The Cowboys played Seattle at home; they play that game in Seattle and Seattle probably wins.

The Eagles played Seattle on the road, they play ghat game at home and Philly probably wins.

Dallas played the Bills and Dolphins on the road. The Bills probably still win if the game was in Dallas, but Dallas probably beats Miami if the game was at home.

Conversely, the Eagles played the Bills and Dolphins at home. Had those games been on the road, the Eagles probably lose to the Bills and a greater chance (maybe not as much as a probable) they lose to the Dolphins.

Where the Bills and Dolphin games were played likely is the difference whether Dallas or Philly wins the Division.
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One hope I have is I believe the AFC is much tougher than the NFC.

If you go down the list of top AFC Teams, most of their losses are to the AFC.

Ravens, Browns, Bills, Fins, etc all knocking out the best NFC Teams. Their ‘good’ team that is struggling the most is the Chiefs, defending SB Champs.

They’re knocking each other out. See the ESPN Analytics for AFC, many more teams with Super Bowl odds.
 
JustChip said:
That’s not correct. Eagles lost to both the Jets and Seahawks, teams we beat. Common Opponents tiebreaker would be tied so it would go to Conference record. This is where losing to AFC teams helps.
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That would be good news. At least we don't have to solely rely on the giants.
 
cowboyblue22 said:
have u watched the lions defense the last three weeks
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yes, but have you watched ours? Ok then. Also, if we have learned anything, we get everyone's A game. Shame on us as fans if we don't know this by now. We will get a heavy dose of Gibbs and company. LaPorta scares me with how bad our linebackers have been covering and in pursuit, tackling.
 
SuperBowlz said:
You never know in football. It would crush Philly mentally. They'd go from a potential playoff run of at home vs the 7 seed to at home versus Detroit to at Tampa, at Dallas, at San Fran.
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if we win this next game. Philly has all the pressure on them and they have been woeful handling that lately. The Cards have a very mobile QB which they struggle against, and a nice run game. It won't be a cake walk for Philly. I think they will lose and we might squeak by Detroit, making week 17 a major game for Philly in NY. Our coaching staff is way better any day of the week, than the Eagles. They are why they lose games.
 
rambo2 said:
The Cowboys should win.
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we win with a late FG this week. Detroit is dynamic. The running attack they have will challenge us. Laporta, St. Brown. If we bring our A game and the refs call an even game for both teams, we should win a tight one. Gotta slow down the run game and get pressure on Goff or it will be boat race time, getting run out of our own stadium.
 
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