Use TO to his strength's and I promise you this...

[EPL0c0]

From where I sit that is 10 of his 13 years in the NFL that he had a legitimate chance to win a Super Bowl and didn't get it done.

Football still is a *TEAM* sport right? Was it Owens that threw the game losing INT in Pittsburgh? Owens that threw 2 picks against Baltimore? Owens that turned the ball over 3 times against Philadelphia?

At least for 2008, there were many things out of Owens' hands that you can look to as why why he "didn't get it done."

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The way Garrett uses Owens is like trying to use a fork to eat soup.

whew, and I thought you were going to go off about JLHiggins again:

 

[TheDude]

From where I sit that is 10 of his 13 years in the NFL that he had a legitimate chance to win a Super Bowl and didn't get it done.

From where I sit, he has been to more superbowls than any other player on the team ANDhas WON playoff games...Novel

 

[RoadRunner]

ANNNK! Sorry Hans, wrong guess. Would you like to go for Double Jeopardy where the scores can really change???

Yippie kai yay ....

 

[Arch Stanton]

Use TO to his strength's and I promise you this.....


the thread title says it all... TO's biggest strength is also his biggest flaw... That's his big mouth!


"OH... but he's misunderstood!" Horse crap!

:laugh2:

Can you afford to keep a player on the team that only has that one strength.....?

 

[1fisher]

Can you afford to keep a player on the team that only has that one strength.....?

HECK NO!!!!!!

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Is everybody forgetting that at this point its not about the stats, its about what hes doing behind the scenes, he may have production, and im a T.O. fan but its not about the team, its about whos he going to trash or criticize this week. The negativity & media he draws and how he doesnt learn his lesson from his mistakes is what troubles me. He can score 100 TDs but if he divides the lockerroom is it worth it??

 

[WV Cowboy]

Not to bang on you here.

But any coach in the world will tell you that a team truly has no #1 WR.

You seriously didn't know what I was referring to??

OK, we won't call it "#1 WR."

Lets call it the "WR that normally has the most catches, the most yards and the most TD's" in most games, and definetly at the end of the season.

Like a Moss, Harrison, Owens, Fitzgerald, S. Smith, A. Johnson.

Those guys are the game-changers, ... if you are a wise OC, you get them the ball!!

It is not that complicated.

These are the guys that defenses have a hard time stopping.

Every team tries to have one of these type of guys.

When they are being productive, the defense has to pay attention to them, which in turn normally frees up others on his team.

Owens is our guy. My point is that if we decide to get rid of him, we better have another guy that can fill that role.

Or the offense suffers.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

if you are a wise OC, you get them the ball!!

It is not that complicated.

I dont get it???

Whats your point?












j/k

Its not easy to understand things when some have BLIND RAGE AGENDA's over this guy.

 

[Doomsday101]

You seriously didn't know what I was referring to??

OK, we won't call it "#1 WR."

Lets call it the "WR that normally has the most catches, the most yards and the most TD's" in most games, and definetly at the end of the season.

Like a Moss, Harrison, Owens, Fitzgerald, S. Smith, A. Johnson.

Those guys are the game-changers, ... if you are a wise OC, you get them the ball!!

It is not that complicated.

These are the guys that defenses have a hard time stopping.

Every team tries to have one of these type of guys.

When they are being productive, the defense has to pay attention to them, which in turn normally frees up others on his team.

Owens is our guy. My point is that if we decide to get rid of him, we better have another guy that can fill that role.

Or the offense suffers.

Sure you want to get them the ball but even Moss had games where he was not a big part of offense in terms of getting the ball and Brady went to others to make the plays. Irvin had games where he may have had 1 or 2 catches because the defense was really keying on him and Troy went elsewhere with the ball. I want TO to be involved I don't want the offense to solely depend on him the more you get others involved the harder it becomes for the defense. I also think the more you get others involved in the game plan the easier it is to have them focused throughout the game

 

[Hostile]

Football still is a *TEAM* sport right? Was it Owens that threw the game losing INT in Pittsburgh? Owens that threw 2 picks against Baltimore? Owens that turned the ball over 3 times against Philadelphia?

At least for 2008, there were many things out of Owens' hands that you can look to as why why he "didn't get it done."

You're kididng me? Football is a team sport? Wow. In all my years of studying the game I never knew that. The thought never entered my melon.

Honestly, that is the response to you to my entire post? To pull out that one line and state something beyond obvious as if someone doesn't grasp it? Next time raise your hand and ask for help understanding the entire context of the post instead of this weak crap.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Sure you want to get them the ball but even Moss had games where he was not a big part of offense in terms of getting the ball and Brady went to others to make the plays. Irvin had games where he may have had 1 or 2 catches because the defense was really keying on him and Troy went elsewhere with the ball. I want TO to be involved I don't want the offense to solely depend on him the more you get others involved the harder it becomes for the defense. I also think the more you get others involved in the game plan the easier it is to have them focused throughout the game

I agree here.

I don't care if it is TO or someone else, whoever is our best playmaker, needs to get the ball each game.

Our most explosive WR just happens to be Owens right now, so each game there has to be an effort to get him the ball.

Felix is our most explosive RB, we have to make it a point to get him the ball.

Like you, I don't want to force it, but a good OC has to come up with ways to get "the explosive playmakers" the ball, no matter what the defense is doing.

That is why he is the OC, and that is his job.

It is the defenses job to try to stop our offense, and it is his job to find ways to get around what the defense is doing and get to ball into the hands of our playmakers/game-breakers.

So in my opinion, when you are the OC, and your team loses a game where Owens gets 1 or 2 catches, or when F. Jones gets 0 carries, then you did not do your job.

Plus, if you don't "create" ways to get the ball to Owens and F. Jones, you are a moron. IMO

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree here.

I don't care if it is TO or someone else, whoever is our best playmaker, needs to get the ball each game.

Our most explosive WR just happens to be Owens right now, so each game there has to be an effort to get him the ball.

Felix is our most explosive RB, we have to make it a point to get him the ball.

Like you, I don't want to force it, but a good OC has to come up with ways to get "the explosive playmakers" the ball, no matter what the defense is doing.

That is why he is the OC, and that is his job.

It is the defenses job to try to stop our offense, and it is his job to find ways to get around what the defense is doing and get to ball into the hands of our playmakers/game-breakers.

So in my opinion, when you are the OC, and your team loses a game where Owens gets 1 or 2 catches, or when F. Jones gets 0 carries, then you did not do your job.

Plus, if you don't "create" ways to get the ball to Owens and F. Jones, you are a moron. IMO

I disagree if a defense wants to take a player out they can it is not that hard but you are willing to sacrifice else where since you can't key on every player out there.

Yes as an OC you want to get the ball into your play makers hand but I also think we have more than 1 play maker even at WR and we need to use them to help take some of the coverages off of TO. Teams are not going to key on him as much if they are getting burned in other areas.

I think too often Dallas spend to much time trying to get the ball to TO the ball comes his way more than others, granted not always on target but that is in large part because Romo is forcing it into small windows.

I look at this team and see others who are capable let them show themselfs for instance Austin he can become a bigger part but he has to get involved as well.

In the meantime we can't have this pouting BS from Owens when he is not getting his way, he need to grow up and act like a man not some spoiled little brat. He is part of the team but not the entire team

 

[Cowboys2008]

yes i do.

I believe when the numbers are done on ware and the fate of williams is decided they can take a look at the financial ramifications more closely and then realize it is more than possible.

plus, if this reeves thing is true that is one more voice pushing jerry to get rid of this guy.

Bull. I say the exact opposite, Reeves will love himself some TO on his team.

He liked Vick. He endorsed Vick thereafter when the guy got busted too and the whole world turned on him. Hell 1 article has already surfaced in just the last few days pinning Reeves next stop (Raiders in that article) as Vicks possible return to the NFL even, and solely due to Reeves possible landing there. Yet you think this is a guy who won't as much as tolerate TO on his team.......

All I can say to that line of thinking is, hmm...interesting.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think too often Dallas spend to much time trying to get the ball to TO the ball comes his way more than others, granted not always on target but that is in large part because Romo is forcing it into small windows.

I know its the party line to say that but I disagree.



Also... when Owens is taken out of the game... Romo is not doing his job and getting the ball to the other playmakers.

It works both ways.

 

[Doomsday101]

I know its the party line to say that but I disagree.



Also... when Owens is taken out of the game... Romo is not doing his job and getting the ball to the other playmakers.

It works both ways.

I agree and I think part of it is Romo trying to accommodate TO I think most spent too much time trying to make him happy. Romo needs to drop back and find the open man who ever that may be, not locking in on 1 player or being concerned that this WR or that one is unhappy. Romo job is to lead not accommodate to ease a players ego.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I disagree if a defense wants to take a player out they can it is not that hard but you are willing to sacrifice else where since you can't key on every player out there.

Only if you allow it to continue to happen.

This year teams tried to double TO, with a safety over the top. When we put him in motion, that didn't work. But sometimes we didn't adjust by putting him in motion, and the double team stopped him.

That's what I mean by the OC being creative and adjusting to what the defense is trying to do.

Yes as an OC you want to get the ball into your play makers hand but I also think we have more than 1 play maker even at WR and we need to use them to help take some of the coverages off of TO. Teams are not going to key on him as much if they are getting burned in other areas.

I have only seen two, Owens & F. Jones.
And Witten is a great TE, but not really a "take it to the house" gamebreaker.

I think too often Dallas spend to much time trying to get the ball to TO the ball comes his way more than others, granted not always on target but that is in large part because Romo is forcing it into small windows.

If you say Romo forced it to Owens, then he forced it to Witten just as much, if not more. Maybe Romo is part of the problem.

I look at this team and see others who are capable let them show themselfs for instance Austin he can become a bigger part but he has to get involved as well.

I would like to see Austin get more involved too, but he has not shown to be a gamebreaker as of yet.

In the meantime we can't have this pouting BS from Owens when he is not getting his way, he need to grow up and act like a man not some spoiled little brat. He is part of the team but not the entire team

If I was coaching Owens, ... I would have no problem with his pouting if (a) he practices hard, and (b) plays hard in games.

I would talk to him and try to get him to understand he is hurting himself, and how it makes him look bad, but in the end he has to deal with it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Only if you allow it to continue to happen.

This year teams tried to double TO, with a safety over the top. When we put him in motion, that didn't work. But sometimes we didn't adjust by putting him in motion, and the double team stopped him.

That's what I mean by the OC being creative and adjusting to what the defense is trying to do.



I have only seen two, Owens & F. Jones.
And Witten is a great TE, but not really a "take it to the house" gamebreaker.



If you say Romo forced it to Owens, then he forced it to Witten just as much, if not more. Maybe Romo is part of the problem.



I would like to see Austin get more involved too, but he has not shown to be a gamebreaker as of yet.



If I was coaching Owens, ... I would have no problem with his pouting if (a) he practices hard, and (b) plays hard in games.

I would talk to him and try to get him to understand he is hurting himself, and how it makes him look bad, but in the end he has to deal with it.

Well we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Well we will just have to agree to disagree.

I think we agree more than you think.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think we agree more than you think.

On some thing we do. As I said I have seen days where Irvin had nothing more than 2 catches for minimum yards same way with Moss there are going to be games where TO is not going to be a big factor and we have to rely on others