Use TO to his strength's and I promise you this...

[dcfanatic]

You don't know if he will be released . . . you should have said "If he is released"

Another agenda . . .

I don't think boys have a box.

 

[DragonCowboy]

You don't know if he will be released . . . you should have said "If he is released"

Another agenda . . .

Then maybe YoMick should've said "IF we win the super bowl with TO"?

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Is this your cousin?

& you said "We don't care".

 

[DaBoys4Life]

When we win the SB with him... he will say the following first:

1. I want to thank Jerry for the opportunity
2. I want to thank Coach Wade for respecting us and letting us do our thing
3. I want to thank Coach Garrett for drawing up a great offensive game plan
4. I want to thank Tony Romo, "he's my boy"
5. And most of all, "I want to thank the fans of Dallas" - I wanted to help this team win a SB and WE did.

Yes. I believe that.
His comments after victories speak for themselves.

I don't think TO would be able to keep his cool he'd be crying.

 

[dcfanatic]

& you said "We don't care".

Don't get it, but anyways.

How is the cuz these days?

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Don't get it, but anyways.

How is the cuz these days?

Not related. My guess would be that he's still pumping roids.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

After Dallas lost to the G-Men in the playoffs last year Owens said 'that's my quarterback.' It's not like he hasn't acted this way before after LOSSES, much less wins.

But for some reason fans want to believe the Mr. Blue Suit story, from ONE anonymous source who 'regularly speaks to Owens' teammates.' Give me a break.

YAKUZA

QFT.
Just the facts Yak... just the facts!

I don't think TO would be able to keep his cool he'd be crying.

I think you would be right.

 

[DallasEast]

I have to add...


In the 14 regular season games he played that year in Philly.... they darn near went undefeated 13-1.

This is an excellent point, but it is not a complete one.

What you say is true. However, the truth does not end there.

When Owens was injured, could not play and the season was on the line during the http://i356.***BLOCKED***/albums/oo4/DallasEast1701/PLAYOFFS.jpg , his teammates decisively beat the Minnesota Vikings and conclusively beat the Atlanta Falcons to reach the Super Bowl. Certainly, Terrell Owens was an unquestionable offensive weapon during the regular season, but the 2004 Eagles was a solid team that season even with average receivers like Freddie Mitchell and Todd Pinkston. Having a great regular season is fantastic. Just ask the Tennessee Titans. However, it cannot be discounted that the rest of the '04 Eagles proved that they were a Super Bowl caliber team when it really mattered WITHOUT Terrell Owens.

 

[TheDude]

Still can't get over the TO hatred.....

Who has choked more in the big game, Romo or TO?

Fumbled FG snap, throwing an INT into double coverage to Terry Glenn (who hadn't played all year). Hail Mary's "just as good as punts" vs Balt. Int vs. Pitt.

If TO has torn this team apart, they weren't very strong to begin with (see last 12 years).

It really is getting ridiculous..

Hell, I even like Romo, but I think he holds more of the personal player blame for the ending of this season than TO does. The Coaching is #1 (personell decisions a la B Johnson, Procor, Zack, not playing Choice, Wade not firing Stewart earlier, Garret's planning as critiqued by R Lewis and E Reed)

All it took was one win to have been in the tourney

• Rams - Coaching (B Johnson, Defense)
• Commanders #1 - Coaching / Defense / Romo Int to Chris Horton to seal it
• NY Giants #1 - likely wouldn't have mattered but Coaching (B Johnson)
• Arizona - Special Teams / Defense / Off line. (KO ret for TD, Blocked punt for TD, 3rd and 17 and hightower makes a 1st down to set up first Off TD)
• Pitt - Romo Int / play calling (Choice was hot and got away from it)
• Balt - Romo Ints / 2 70yd TD runs / Derrick Mason abusing the secondary with one arm
• Philly #2 - Turnovers / Defense (likely wouldn't have mattered as any of the previous games would have clinched a playoff spot)

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

This is an excellent point, but it is not a complete one.

What you say is true. However, the truth does not end there.

When Owens was injured, could not play and the season was on the line during the http://i356.***BLOCKED***/albums/oo4/DallasEast1701/PLAYOFFS.jpg , his teammates decisively beat the Minnesota Vikings and conclusively beat the Atlanta Falcons to reach the Super Bowl. Certainly, Terrell Owens was an unquestionable offensive weapon during the regular season, but the 2004 Eagles was a solid team that season even with average receivers like Freddie Mitchell and Todd Pinkston. Having a great regular season is fantastic. Just ask the Tennessee Titans. However, it cannot be discounted that the rest of the '04 Eagles proved that they were a Super Bowl caliber team when it really mattered WITHOUT Terrell Owens.

I really believe that if the Eagle and McNabb handle the "can you win without TO" nonsense then maybe they win SB. McNabb handled it wrong.

And yet the STILL almost won it.

Still can't get over the TO hatred.....

Who has choked more in the big game, Romo or TO?

Fumbled FG snap, throwing an INT into double coverage to Terry Glenn (who hadn't played all year). Hail Mary's "just as good as punts" vs Balt. Int vs. Pitt.

If TO has torn this team apart, they weren't very strong to begin with (see last 12 years).

It really is getting ridiculous..

Hell, I even like Romo, but I think he holds more of the personal player blame for the ending of this season than TO does. The Coaching is #1 (personell decisions a la B Johnson, Procor, Zack, not playing Choice, Wade not firing Stewart earlier, Garret's planning as critiqued by R Lewis and E Reed)

Cant agree with this at all.
Romo hasnt choked.

• you cant call the fumble a choke
• you cant call the Crayton play on Romo
• you cant even call the end of season a choke on him - nothing was working

INT is same as point - he is just flat out wrong there.

TO and Romo and offense not being in sync is on all of them... players, coaches and Jerry.

Wade not firing Stewart didnt matter. Wade got this defense on tracked... so for all intents and purposes it was fixed... fixed good enough to win.

 

[DallasEast]

I really believe that if the Eagle and McNabb handle the "can you win without TO" nonsense then maybe they win SB. McNabb handled it wrong.

And yet the STILL almost won it.

McNabb?

Okey dokey.

My only point is that Owens can be credited only so much for the Eagles 2004 success. The credit he deserves for making Philadelphia great in '04 should certainly not be undervalued, but it shouldn't be overly showered on him either.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

if we have to keep TO

I agree, and I said something like this not too long ago, fit the O around him, don't try to fit a square peg in a round hole

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

McNabb?

Okey dokey.

My only point is that Owens can be credited only so much for the Eagles 2004 success. The credit he deserves for making Philadelphia great in '04 should certainly not be undervalued, but it shouldn't be overly showered on him either.

Well I cleary only referred to the game he played in. 14 Reg season and one playoff game(SB)

 

[The Panch]

I agree.
That is why the thread is titled "use TO to his strength's" = win=win for all.




I believe this.

There is one problem though.
You have to compliment TO and even McNabb for having some success against the Pats. McNabb completed 9 passes to TO for 122 yards? against a team that seemed to know the plays before they happened.

Not to take away from his gutsy performance, but that was mostly YAC. He wasnt beating anybody deep most of the night.

 

[TheDude]

There were 3 losses before wade starting calling the Defenses

• Arizona
• Washnigton #1
• Rams

The coaching decision to keep Johnson after that abysmal preseason was incompetence. Not getting Holland and Choice ready is incomptence.

Like it or not, the Pitt and Balt games were more on Romo than anyone else (except the Defense and the 70yd runs - but those runs wouldn't have happened if Dallas wasn't playing catchup and letting Flacco outplay Romo by protecting the ball better)

The Pitt game, there were other receivers open on both of the plays to Witten INT and 4th down. If the pressure was coming, there should have been some coaching adjustment to get the WRs to be the hot routes or keep Bennet into block.

And if you want to really be honest, how many "Tuck rule" benefits did Romo get this year? I know of at least 4.

Anyway, the season is over, but objectively this team was ouplayed this year which includes defeats to two 8-8 teams a 2-14 team. It was never drilled into their head that a game vs the Cowboys IS the other teams superbowl.

While Owens will run his mouth, it really isn't much different than Rice, Carter, K Johnson, C Johnson, P Burress, A Boldin.

Jesus, Steve Smith Breaks a teammates face and that got about 1/1000th the coverage that Secretplaygate received. And S Smith is the "heart and soul" of the Panthers

I really don't get it

 

[DallasEast]

Well I cleary only referred to the game he played in. 14 Reg season and one playoff game(SB)

Clearly. That's the point.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Not to take away from his gutsy performance, but that was mostly YAC. He wasnt beating anybody deep most of the night.

Wow... that sounds like an alternate version of what Buddy Ryan said "all he does is score TD's"


So he YAC'd with his healed leg.
Not too shabby(in my best Adam Sandler voice)

 

[TheDude]

McNabb?

Okey dokey.

My only point is that Owens can be credited only so much for the Eagles 2004 success. The credit he deserves for making Philadelphia great in '04 should certainly not be undervalued, but it shouldn't be overly showered on him either.

Fair point, but if he is only part of the positive for the Eagles SB run/performance, why does it seem he gets 90% of the blame for the collapse this year?

He didn't lose the SB for them and I don't think he lost any games for Dallas this year. I really don't buy the "distraction" because when you are playing on the field, the last thing you think about is TO interviews.

 

[DallasEast]

Fair point, but if he is only part of the positive for the Eagles SB run/performance, why does it seem he gets 90% of the blame for the collapse this year?

Who has stated that Owens should receive 90% of the blame? 50% of the blame? 20% of the blame? Etc., etc.

Owens doesn't deserve 90% of the blame for the 2008 season, but neither is he blameless.

He didn't lose the SB for them and I don't think he lost any games for Dallas this year. I really don't buy the "distraction" because when you are playing on the field, the last thing you think about is TO interviews.

Okey dokey.

 

[The Panch]

Wow... that sounds like an alternate version of what Buddy Ryan said "all he does is score TD's"


So he YAC'd with his healed leg.
Not too shabby(in my best Adam Sandler voice)

1. He never scored a touchdown.

2. I wasnt saying what he did wasnt impressive, but his ankle was never tested as far as him having to burn downfield. He did his work after he had the ball in his hands.