Vela: Why Anquan Boldin Isn’t Worth A Huge Deal

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A few months ago, when the Arizona Cardinals were in a contract impasse with WR Larry Fitzgerald, I got a call from a source who wanted to discuss trade packages Dallas might assemble for him. This source has worked in the business a long time and has a very good idea of player value.

We discussed a 1st round pick and a quality player off the Dallas roster as a starting point. When I mentioned that this might remind lots of Cowboys fans about the Joey Galloway deal and invite a backlash, the source was quick and firm with his retort: “Larry Fitzgerald isn’t Joey Galloway.”

The question recurs now that the Cowboys have seen their back WR roster thinned by injury, with Miles Austin and Isaiah Stanback on the mend and with Fitzgerald’s WR partner Anquan Boldin screaming for a new deal. The Dallas papers invite trade proposals on a regular basis, with one scribe suggesting Dallas offer a 1st rounder, Marcus Spears, and Miles Austin for Boldin and a 3rd.

Fair? Not according to the metrics in the brand spanking new copy of Scientific Football 2008. K.C. Joyner’s latest is easily his best, with more nuance than any of his previous books. (I highly recomment buying it at your bookstore on or his website, where you can get an instantaneous electronic download.)

One area of greater detail is wide receiver YPA stats. In the past, Joyner has compiled simple YPA numbers, looking at attempts and yards against opposing defenses. This year, he not only looks at a receiver’s production, but the quality of the corners he’s beating. Joyner takes his cornerback YPAs and breaks NFL CBs into three categories: Red corners have YPAs under 7; numbers like this put them in the top third of the league in any given year. Yellow corners are those with YPAs between 7-9. They are what you might call “league average” corners. Green corners are those with YPAs above 9. They’re the bottom third, the guys you need to fill out rosters and nickel or dime packages, but would replace if you could.

Joyner notes that Boldin and Fitzgerald have almost identical raw YPAs. In ‘07, they were identical, with both receivers posting very respectable 9.2s, which tied them for 17th, just behind Randy Moss and just ahead of Detroit’s Roy Williams.

Not all YPAs are created equal, however, as Joyner’s ratings-per-color-level show:

Player vs. Red CBs vs. Yellow CBs vs. Green CBs
Larry Fitzgerald
9.1 8.5 13.6
Anquan Boldin
4.9 7.1 15.6

These metrics tells a very different story. Fitzgerald, as we can see, beats everybody, red, yellow and green. His 9.1 versus red corners ranked 5th in that category, right behind some guy named Terrell Owens. Boldin’s 4.9? Not so good; that number tied him for 47th.

While their production numbers are almost identical, let’s not kid ourselves. Fitzgerald is the number one in Arizona’s attack. Boldin is number two. Teams assign their best corners to Fitzgerald — and he beats them anyway. Boldin is very effective at beating 2nd and 3rd tier corners, exactly as a number two should, but when Arizona has faced teams with two top quality corners, or when teams have assigned their top guy to Boldin, he’s struggled.
What can we take from this?
  1. For all the abuse he’s taken in the press, Arizona GM Rod Graves absolutely made the right decision. He paid Fitzgerald number one money and is paying Boldin top dollar for a number two, as he should.
  2. My guy was on the money this Spring. Larry Fitzgerald isn’t Joey Galloway. He’s much better. (Galloway, if you’re wondering, finished 3rd overall in ‘07 raw YPAs, with a 10.9, but was a lousy 53rd versus red corners, with a 4.6 average. This tells me Tampa Bay faced some poor secondaries in ‘07.)
  3. These numbers should temper the outrageous packages we hear from the gallery for Boldin and Detroit’s Roy Williams. The Cowboys have a legitimate number one in Owens. The thinking pre-draft was to obtain a young receiver who could complement him and eventually replace him. Both Boldin and Williams can certainly complement T.O. but neither shows the top end performance to take his place. Williams’ YPA versus red corners was a poor 4.3, which ranked 58th overall. It’s not that much better than Patrick Crayton’s number.
  4. That doesn’t mean that Boldin and Williams don’t have value. But Jerry Jones’ unwillingness to pay a number one price for a number two shows that he has good data at his disposal. If Dallas felt a real need to pursue Boldin, I’d offer Arizona a number one, but no more. Given the fact that Boldin is unhappy with getting $4 million a year, which seems like a fair salary to me given his game, I doubt that he would pout any less if the Cowboys got him and refused to re-work his deal. For that reason, I don’t think he’s worth the potential headache.
If Dallas wants to make the proverbial big splash and get a complement who can be a number one if T.O. gets injured, they’re better off asking about Steve Smith, who beats red corners for an 8.4 YPA.

Me? I’ll wait for Miles Austin to complete his rehab. If he can beat yellow and green corners, and not cost the Cowboys high picks and big money, he’s the best value.
 

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One area of greater detail is wide receiver YPA stats. In the past, Joyner has compiled simple YPA numbers, looking at attempts and yards against opposing defenses. This year, he not only looks at a receiver’s production, but the quality of the corners he’s beating. Joyner takes his cornerback YPAs and breaks NFL CBs into three categories: Red corners have YPAs under 7; numbers like this put them in the top third of the league in any given year. Yellow corners are those with YPAs between 7-9.

This is actually a methodology I'm (kind of) on board with, much more so than that Speed Score garbage from last week. And Boldin's numbers against red and yellow corners does make you pause.

These numbers should temper the outrageous packages we hear from the gallery for Boldin and Detroit’s Roy Williams. The Cowboys have a legitimate number one in Owens. The thinking pre-draft was to obtain a young receiver who could complement him and eventually replace him. Both Boldin and Williams can certainly complement T.O. but neither shows the top end performance to take his place. Williams’ YPA versus red corners was a poor 4.3, which ranked 58th overall. It’s not that much better than Patrick Crayton’s number.

And this does verify what I've suspected all along about Roy Williams not being all that, despite having stats that would suggest otherwise.
 

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Seems like this methodology could also be helpful at the college level when it comes to drafting potential WRs.

The one problem I have is that too often, they use these types of formulas to verify whether or not a guy everyone knows is all that. How about using this to project how a player is going to do before anyone actually knows about him? Love to see this methodology put to the test at the college level and how it translates into NFL success.
 

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thank you for the read. personally, I'd trade Crayton before Austin. that's just my opinion though.
 

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Joyner's rainbow grading system looks like another one of his misapplied metrics, if you ask me.
 

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Ill go w/ the Bob Sanders comparision here w/ Boldin. He might not have all the stats, but if you watch the game, he makes a difference.

My one concern is, hes a big guy who doesnt go down w/o a fight MB3 style. So how long will he last? But Im not too worried right now, considering a fair deal should make us at least co-favorites w/ NE right now



Marcus Spears, and Miles Austin for Boldin and a 3rd.


Id do this deal, maybe even w/o the 3rd as well
 

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Shouldn't the person throwing to the receiver play a role in these numbers? I can definitely see a difference in Leinart/Warner and Romo. Even in Roy Williams' case, who would you rather have? Whatshisface or Romo. I think the choice would be clear and the passer is not reflected in KC's numbers. Williams and Boldin would do better in Dallas, with or without TO on the field.
 

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I don't understand. This guy put up huge numbers IDC who he put them up against he has one bad season and he shouldn't get paid???????? He should get Reggie Wayne type money.
 

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Joyner's rainbow grading system looks like another one of his misapplied metrics, if you ask me.

Exactly. I wouldnt worry about Boldins green metrics when hes getting single coverage b/c we have T.O., Witten, MB3, and Felix on the field at the same time.

Whats the cap hit on trading Crayton? B/C I think his value is way higher making a deal easier. Also b/c Miles is a nice fit as the 3rd WR if we make a deal, hes a deep threat where Crayton has a similar game to Boldins
 

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AdamJT13;2211862 said:
Joyner's rainbow grading system looks like another one of his misapplied metrics, if you ask me.

I'd have to hear more about his grading system for defensive backs first before I got completely on board with it. So, I edited my first post. Doesn't say much about his defensive back grading system, other than giving them a color.

Edit: I need more coffee. He does provide some detail about how he grades DBs. I like the overall methodology, I think it's pretty sound. And by sound, I mean relative to the others out there.
 

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cowboys2233;2211883 said:
I'd have to hear more about his grading system for defensive backs first before I got completely on board with it. So, I edited my first post. Doesn't say much about his defensive back grading system, other than giving them a color.

Edit: I need more coffee. He does provide some detail about how he grades DBs. I like the overall methodology, I think it's pretty sound. And by sound, I mean relative to the others out there.
There's a post floating around w/KC Joyner's DB metrics.. Search function is your friend, cuz I have no idea where it is. :)
 

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AdamJT13;2211862 said:
Joyner's rainbow grading system looks like another one of his misapplied metrics, if you ask me.

Care to elaborate?
 

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WoodysGirl;2211894 said:
There's a post floating around w/KC Joyner's DB metrics.. Search function is your friend, cuz I have no idea where it is. :)

Yeah, I remember reading about it at some point and saw that he did reference it here. All in all, I think it's a relatively decent methodology, provided the sample size he's drawing from is decent. But considering the variables, I think you could generate a decent sample size in a relatively short period of time, another plus.
 

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I don't need numbers to show me that Boldin or Roy Williams can be a #1 WR. Both pass the simple eye test. However, as much as I'd like to add another big time target, it simply isn't worth the cost for the minimal improvement we'd see on offense. If we don't have enough weapons on offense as currently assembled, I don't know if any team does.
 

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dmoore;2211903 said:
I don't need numbers to show me that Boldin or Roy Williams can be a #1 WR. Both pass the simple eye test. However, as much as I'd like to add another big time target, it simply isn't worth the cost for the minimal improvement we'd see on offense. If we don't have enough weapons on offense as currently assembled, I don't know if any team does.


Like Alvin Harper? Wonder how he would grade out in this system? And again, I would love to see this applied to college WRs, draw some conclusions about their projected NFL success and see how it turns out after they've been in the league about three or four years.
 

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Couple of things.

Who the hell offered Miles Austin, Spears and a #1? I never heard that and it would have been stupid.

Boldin and Fitgerald are different receivers. Boldin is much more a possession receiver than Fitzgerald. Fitz is more likely to land big plays on you like TO does to teams.

If you compare Boldin to running backs, he is more like Larry Johnson in the fact that he is a work horse. If you're looking for a home run threat, then Boldin isn't your guy. If you looking for a guy that shows up every day and makes the plays he is supposed to make, then you're looking for a Boldin type receiver.

Now his 4.9 doesn't look good either way you put it, but there isn't a single person that knows anything about football who would say Boldin wasn't a damn good receiver.

I wouldn't have given up a #1, Spears, and Austin for Boldin or Fitzgerald.
 

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cowboys2233;2211917 said:
Like Alvin Harper? Wonder how he would grade out in this system? And again, I would love to see this applied to college WRs, draw some conclusions about their projected NFL success and see how it turns out after they've been in the league about three or four years.


Unfortunately, in college, there are so many more teams that you kind of lose the "apples to apples" comparisons (aka, WRs playing against the same defensive backs) a little bit, so it probably wouldn't work nearly as well at that level.
 
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