Vela: Why Anquan Boldin Isn’t Worth A Huge Deal

[Shady12]

Well, Boldin would most likely get more than what Crayton got.. I see what you are saying but he would cause a little dip in TO and Witten's catches, which would be fine. He's quite a bit better than Crayton so Romo would look for him/see him more.

 

[dbair1967]

Well, Boldin would most likely get more than what Crayton got.. I see what you are saying but he would cause a little dip in TO and Witten's catches, which would be fine. He's quite a bit better than Crayton so Romo would look for him/see him more.

ok, so he catches 65-70, TO catches 75 maybe and Witten catches 80 or so...whats changed?

is Boldin a better player than Crayton? Yeah he is. Would it make a marked improvement to add him to our offense at the cost it would be (players, picks, money)? No, it probably wouldnt.

Again if we didnt have a proven goto guy like Owens I'd think differently, Boldin would be a hgue difference maker then. But he wouldnt be with TO and Witten both healthy.

David

 

[Shady12]

He'd help out a lot. And would be a difference maker regardless of having Witten or TO. But no I wouldn't give a first rounder, a good player, and maybe something else. 1st rounder and nothing else. I mean the guy is obviously worth a first round pick. If he magically was thrown into next year's draft, he'd be the 1st overall pick in the draft. He's already known as a sure thing, something no other player entering a draft can claim. But I wouldn't give up more than a single pick (or a single good player at a position we have depth at and no picks).

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Couple of things.

Who the hell offered Miles Austin, Spears and a #1? I never heard that and it would have been stupid.

it was a fan email

 

[Bluefin]

it was a fan email

JJT thought it was a good idea in his blog.

What should the Dallas Cowboys trade for Cardinals receiver Anquan Boldin?

7:45 AM Wed, Aug 20, 2008 | Permalink
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Anquan Boldin wants out of Arizona. Drew Rosenhaus is his agent, which means he can get a deal done with the Cowboys just like he got deals for T.O. and Marion Barber this off-season.

We know Jerry would love to add him, but the price will be high. OK people, what are you willing to give up for Boldin - and don't give me any of those Danny Amendola, Bobby Carpenter and a fourth-round pick offers?

Let's keep it real.

My offer: First-rouind pick, Marcus Spears and Miles Ausitn for Boldin and a third-rounder.

What's yours?

We'll examine the legitimate offers you propose later on today.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

if we didnt have TO, I might agree...but considering we do have TO and Boldin isnt going to put up numbers much better than Crayton did last yr in our offense, it isnt worth it. Especially with Spears being far and away the best DL in preseason

There's only so many balls to go around...Owens is gonna get his 80-90 catches...Witten is gonna get his 80-90 catches or so...Crayton got 50 last yr...what do you reasonably expect Boldin is gonna do here? 60 catches? He is not a deep threat, so he isnt going to stretch the field anymore than Caryton does. You gotta give up a ton to get the guy, plus you have to be willing to pay him a mega deal. It isnt worth it unless we lost Owens or Witten.

David

Well said.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I like the idea of this data but truly feel it is not an accurate or fair representation of a WR. There are far too many variables in the passing game to break it down so simply. Why do they not put quality of pass rush as a variable for corner quality. You even have to take into account the kind of coverage a WR does best against. One thing you cannot argue against is consistent success which RW and Boldin continue to exhibit.

 

[joseephuss]

ok, so he catches 65-70, TO catches 75 maybe and Witten catches 80 or so...whats changed?

is Boldin a better player than Crayton? Yeah he is. Would it make a marked improvement to add him to our offense at the cost it would be (players, picks, money)? No, it probably wouldnt.

Again if we didnt have a proven goto guy like Owens I'd think differently, Boldin would be a hgue difference maker then. But he wouldnt be with TO and Witten both healthy.

David

Adding Boldin may not dramatically improve the offense, but he would beinsurance in case TO gets hurt and he would be the future go to receiver once TO retires. Those are things to consider. It just may cost too much to get him and that will be the biggest consideration.

 

[jimmy40]

Leinart sucks and Warner can barely beat him out but these stats mean EVERYTHING.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Leinart sucks and Warner can barely beat him out but these stats mean EVERYTHING.

Warner was the 10th ranked QB in the league last year... 3,400 yards and 27TD's with a QB rating of 89.

Yeah, he's horrible.

 

[rock0100]

Our entire season is riding on TO's health. If he goes down with an injury, we dont have ANY other receivers capable of being the #1 guy. Boldin would be a great #2 and an excellent insurance plan.

I seriously dont know why, with such a great opportunity, the Cowboys have not brought in another good receiver.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Our entire season is riding on TO's health. If he goes down with an injury, we dont have ANY other receivers capable of being the #1 guy. Boldin would be a great #2 and an excellent insurance plan.

I seriously dont know why, with such a great opportunity, the Cowboys have not brought in another good receiver.

The salary cap and roster limitations are what keep any team from having probowl depth at every position.

You have to pick your poison and live with it.

In 1995, Kevin Williams was the no 2, playing opposite of Michael Irvin-- who was going to replace Irvin had he gotten hurt?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The salary cap and roster limitations are what keep any team from having probowl depth at every position.

You have to pick your poison and live with it.

In 1995, Kevin Williams was the no 2, playing opposite of Michael Irvin-- who was going to replace Irvin had he gotten hurt?

Kevin Williams couldn't replace Crayton right now. He just wasnt very good IMO. However, if you had a good WR opposite TO, then I think you set yourself up for a Super Bowl. I think Josse brings up a very good point. If TO goes down, and lets face it, the chances of that are probably 90% that he does go down at some point in the season, your in a much better position to deal with it if you have another quality receiver who demands double teams.

I believe in the Noah's Ark approach, two by two.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Kevin Williams couldn't replace Crayton right now. He just wasnt very good IMO. However, if you had a good WR opposite TO, then I think you set yourself up for a Super Bowl. I think Josse brings up a very good point. If TO goes down, and lets face it, the chances of that are probably 90% that he does go down at some point in the season, your in a much better position to deal with it if you have another quality receiver who demands double teams.

I believe in the Noah's Ark approach, two by two.

Granted, I'd like another #1 type of receiver on the roster too but the roster rules along with the tight cap we're facing next year precludes this team from spending oodles of resources on another WR.

Hey, it's like this, I don't believe in loading up for one big year. The odds of succeeding are just too great. I want this team to be competitive year in and year out. I'm not into one-trick ponies.

 

[cowboys2233]

The salary cap and roster limitations are what keep any team from having probowl depth at every position.

You have to pick your poison and live with it.

In 1995, Kevin Williams was the no 2, playing opposite of Michael Irvin-- who was going to replace Irvin had he gotten hurt?

Yes, and let's face it, if you're going to have to bank on a guy being out there, Owens isn't a bad choice. His broken bones heal in about two days. He is like Wolverine.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Granted, I'd like another #1 type of receiver on the roster too but the roster rules along with the tight cap we're facing next year precludes this team from spending oodles of resources on another WR.

Hey, it's like this, I don't believe in loading up for one big year. The odds of succeeding are just too great. I want this team to be competitive year in and year out. I'm not into one-trick ponies.

I don't know that I agree with the cap issue. A lot has to do with what actually happens in the next year or so. We could find ourselves without a cap in the very near future. We could also find ourselves without TO in a year or so. He's not a spring chicken anymore. We've lost two WRs in just this pre season alone.

I guess I just think that if you have the chance to bring in superior talent, you take it if at all possible. Those opportunities don't come around very often. Too many times, you get guys who are older and near the end and then you pay too much for them. Not very often you get a chance to land a guy who is just starting his Prime and is a top guy at his position. That's kinda how I look at it.

 

[Doomsday101]

If we could get Boldin for less than 2 1st rd pick I would do it but I don't think the Cards will take anything less than

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't know that I agree with the cap issue. A lot has to do with what actually happens in the next year or so. We could find ourselves without a cap in the very near future. We could also find ourselves without TO in a year or so. He's not a spring chicken anymore. We've lost two WRs in just this pre season alone.

I guess I just think that if you have the chance to bring in superior talent, you take it if at all possible. Those opportunities don't come around very often. Too many times, you get guys who are older and near the end and then you pay too much for them. Not very often you get a chance to land a guy who is just starting his Prime and is a top guy at his position. That's kinda how I look at it.

If you had a superior talent available--- I don't see Boldin being a superior talent. He's good, but he's not a dominant #1 receiver.

If a dominant #1 becomes available then I give you permission to allow the Cowboys to acquire him.

 

[jimmy40]

Warner was the 10th ranked QB in the league last year... 3,400 yards and 27TD's with a QB rating of 89.

Yeah, he's horrible.

So you need more proof how good Boldin is?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

So you need more proof how good Boldin is?

So you're inferring that Boldin "made" Kurt Warner?

LOL!