Vick tests positive for pot *Merged*
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cobra;1671665 said:
Cobra, can you explain to us how this works? He gets sentenced by the Feds and now is has the indictment by the state/county/whatever...
How does this all work out? Will Vick serve his time for the Feds and then possibly have to spend more time from the State/county/or whatever it is?
Of does his time with the feds overrule and he just does that time?
I'm confused!!
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/09/26/vick.drug.test.ap/index.html
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A federal judge placed tighter restrictions on Michael Vick on Wednesday after he tested positive for marijuana. Because of the result, U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson placed special conditions on Vick's release, including restricting him to his home between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. and ordering him to submit to random drug testing.
The urine sample was submitted Sept. 13, according to a document by a federal probation officer that was filed in U.S. District Court on Wednesday.
Vick, who admitted bankrolling a dogfighting operation on property he owns in Surry County in his written federal plea, is scheduled for sentencing Dec. 10.
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A federal judge placed tighter restrictions on Michael Vick on Wednesday after he tested positive for marijuana. Because of the result, U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson placed special conditions on Vick's release, including restricting him to his home between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. and ordering him to submit to random drug testing.
The urine sample was submitted Sept. 13, according to a document by a federal probation officer that was filed in U.S. District Court on Wednesday.
Vick, who admitted bankrolling a dogfighting operation on property he owns in Surry County in his written federal plea, is scheduled for sentencing Dec. 10.
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03EBZ06;1671722 said:
Was that McNabb?
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Why dey be doin him like dat?
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OSTED 1:21 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 1:41 p.m. EDT, September 26, 2007
APPARENTLY, VICK STILL HAS POT MONEY
With his NFL career in shambles and his marketing potential in the O.J. Simpson ballpark, Falcons quarterback Mike Vick apparently has enough cash on hand to afford to tango from time to time with a Mexican girl named Mary Jane.
Per published reports, Vick has tested positive for marijuana.
Vick is subject to testing as one of the terms of his release on bond while awaiting sentencing for federal conspiracy charges, to which he pleaded guilty last month. His failure to maintain a bladder full of clean urine is somewhat surprising, since he knows that he is subject to testing.
And, like a guy who tests positive at the scouting combine, the fact that Vick tested positive when he knew he was going to be tested means that either Vick is really stupid, or that he has a problem. (Some would say "both.")
Specifically, a specimen that Vick submitted on September 13 generated a positive result. As a result of the result (man, I need to get a thesaurus), Judge Henry Hudson has ordered Vick to home confinement from 10:00 p.m. until 6:00 a.m., and has required him to wear a certain piece of jewelry on his ankle that will alert the authorities if Vick should leave his residence.
And he won't be able to carry this piece of jewelry in his water bottle with the secret compartment -- unless he can fit his foot and leg in there, too.
We've yet to research whether the positive test has an impact on the application of the federal sentencing guidelines that Hudson will use to determine the penatly to impose on Vick come December 10. But regardless of whether the incident factors into the equation that will control the number of months that Mike will spend as a guest of Uncle Sam, Vick's failure to stay away from smoking pot during this critical juncture of his life won't be likely to persuade Judge Hudson to exercise any discretion in Vick's favor.
APPARENTLY, VICK STILL HAS POT MONEY
With his NFL career in shambles and his marketing potential in the O.J. Simpson ballpark, Falcons quarterback Mike Vick apparently has enough cash on hand to afford to tango from time to time with a Mexican girl named Mary Jane.
Per published reports, Vick has tested positive for marijuana.
Vick is subject to testing as one of the terms of his release on bond while awaiting sentencing for federal conspiracy charges, to which he pleaded guilty last month. His failure to maintain a bladder full of clean urine is somewhat surprising, since he knows that he is subject to testing.
And, like a guy who tests positive at the scouting combine, the fact that Vick tested positive when he knew he was going to be tested means that either Vick is really stupid, or that he has a problem. (Some would say "both.")
Specifically, a specimen that Vick submitted on September 13 generated a positive result. As a result of the result (man, I need to get a thesaurus), Judge Henry Hudson has ordered Vick to home confinement from 10:00 p.m. until 6:00 a.m., and has required him to wear a certain piece of jewelry on his ankle that will alert the authorities if Vick should leave his residence.
And he won't be able to carry this piece of jewelry in his water bottle with the secret compartment -- unless he can fit his foot and leg in there, too.
We've yet to research whether the positive test has an impact on the application of the federal sentencing guidelines that Hudson will use to determine the penatly to impose on Vick come December 10. But regardless of whether the incident factors into the equation that will control the number of months that Mike will spend as a guest of Uncle Sam, Vick's failure to stay away from smoking pot during this critical juncture of his life won't be likely to persuade Judge Hudson to exercise any discretion in Vick's favor.
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ABQCOWBOY;1671639 said:Well, what are they going to do to him? Suspend him from Football, take all his money away and send him to jail?
I suppose if I wanted to smoke weed and I knew I was going down I would too and the fact that they were going to test me wouldn't deter me in the slightest.
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trickblue;1671706 said:
Thats just a rolled cigarette.
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He needed that fake thingy they use
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nyc;1671750 said:
Then you would be just as stupid as Vick!
If I thought that I was going to get a sentence of say 12 months for what I did, but it could go to 5 years is I don't clean up my act...guess what I'm going to do?
Now you, you would sacrifice 4 years for few hours of getting high?
Stupid is as stupid does...
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abersonc;1671663 said:
Pot helps with PMS? Damn! Why didn't I know that before. Been married for 27+ years and I just now hear how I can do something about my wife when she's a beyotch (like now). You know, she smoked a lot of pot before we got married but quit just prior to our wedding. I wondered why she changed so much.
One question though, is it for me or for her?
People dread menopause but I am looking forward to it.
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Can someone do a Dumb and Dumber photoshop?
Last night, watching Outside the Lines, I almost started to feel sorry for the guy. I really did. In a lot of ways his celebrity has made him a scapegoat. I totally deny there's anything racial about what he is going through as some on the show maintained. No doubt whatsoever though that his celebrity fed the media storm. If it came out that media darling Peyton Manning were the one involved I believe the feeding frenzy would have been just as big.
What the hell happened to "I need to make better decisions in my life?"
Unreal.
Last night, watching Outside the Lines, I almost started to feel sorry for the guy. I really did. In a lot of ways his celebrity has made him a scapegoat. I totally deny there's anything racial about what he is going through as some on the show maintained. No doubt whatsoever though that his celebrity fed the media storm. If it came out that media darling Peyton Manning were the one involved I believe the feeding frenzy would have been just as big.
What the hell happened to "I need to make better decisions in my life?"
Unreal.
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5Stars;1671775 said:Then you would be just as stupid as Vick!
If I thought that I was going to get a sentence of say 12 months for what I did, but it could go to 5 years is I don't clean up my act...guess what I'm going to do?
Now you, you would sacrifice 4 years for few hours of getting high?
Stupid is as stupid does...
He isn't getting 5 years and in all likelihood, it won't have much of any impact on his sentencing. If I were Vick I would try to turn state's witness in the State of Virginia's case against the guys who turned state's witness against him in the federal case. Revenge is fun!
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5Stars;1671723 said:
Well, he has not been sentenced by the Feds yet. This pot thing will have an effect on the direction of the judge imposing the sentence because he is allowed to consider any facts in determining the sentence within the guidelines.
But once he is sentence, he will serve time for the federal crimes.
The state just indicted him as well. The first fight will be a constitutional challenge by his attorneys arguing that he can be convicted of the same crime in both federal and state courts. That is true ("double jeopardy"). The issue will be whether the crime he is charged with in state Court is effectively the same crime he is charged with in federal court. It will be interesting how that is resolved. If the state court finds it is different, the prosecution will go forward (although I am sure appeals would tie it up for years).
If he is convicted in state court, the sentences would arguably (and almost certainly) run concurrently. That is, if he spends 3 years in jail for the federal conviction, then that time would count against whatever sentence he got for state court. So say he got a 4 year state sentence and a 3 year federal sentence: at the end of his 3rd year in fed pen, he would then go to the state pen for 1 more year. If the state sentence is less than his fed sentence, he would never serve in a state pen. Theoretically, the sentence might be ordered to run consecutively, in which he would do the fed time and then the total state time. But that is highly, highly unlikely and there is some split in the authority whether that is possible.
The most likely scenario is that he will never see state jail time. Either the state charges will get tossed on double jeopardy grounds, or if he is convicted under state law, the appeal will tie up the case for years and by the time he gets out of the fed pen, he will already have served enough time under the state sentence and the appeal would be moot.