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[Randy White]

great points. the NFL and media these days are complete jokes they just shine on todays players I would love to see manning play in the 70's -80's or even 90's.... I'm not taking anything away from him he is a great Q but the game has changed so drastically that there is no way to compare era to era..

I think Manning would have been great in any era. He might not have put up the same numbers, obviously, but he would have been just as fantastic.

What gets to me, though, is the complete ignorance of some media members. I don't know if it's done on purpose in order to sustain their hyperbolic views ( cuz it produce ratings ) , or if it's lazy ignorance, as in they don't want to put in the time to do the research to back up their opinions.

I mean, to say such an idiotic comment like " Montana had Rice ", implying that Rice made Montana somehow, is an insult to football fans.

 

[THUMPER]

Forget that obvious part..

I want to see the people who claim that Emmitt ran behind " the best O-line ever " name the 5 starters that played those specific years in front of him.


and the answer is: It's a BS question. ( Using my Cousin Vinny's reference ).

There weren't 5. There were only TWO who played all the games in that time span ( Mark Tuini and Nate Newton ) and neither is considered anywhere near the HOF, much less amongst the greatest of all time. Not to mention that both were in the league long before Emmitt was drafted.

The fact is that the so called " best O-line ever " had at least 10 players that started games and/or played a significant amount of snaps during that time span alone, and obviously many more during Emmitt's entire career.

Erick Williams, Keving Gogan, Mark Stepnoski, Nate Newton, Mark Tuini, Frank Cornish, John Gesek, Larry Allen, Derrek Kennard, Ray Donalson..

So, exactly which O-line out of that group was " the greatest of all time " ?

For those who use the O-Line argument, I wonder if they take away from Jim Brown for the same reason since 2 of his blockers are in the HoF (Mike McCormack & Gene Hickerson).

He also had a couple of others who could be in the HoF in Jim Ray Smith (5 Pro-Bowls & 3 time All-Pro) and Dick Schafrath (6 Pro-Bowls & 4 time All-Pro). There were also a couple of other multiple Pro-Bowl players in John Morrow and John Wooten.

Evidently, Jim Brown made them great but our O-Line made Emmitt Smith great. Yeah right.

You can't have it both ways folks.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Along with whomever made the list up.

I'll go even further: Top 3 RBs ( in no particular order ):

Walter Payton
Jim Brown
Emmitt Smith

The discussion starts AFTER those guys. No " if " or " buts " about it.

You have to throw Barry Sanders in there simply because, had he played as long as he could have, he would hold the rushing record or be very close to Emmitt. The guy was that good, so you have to consider him.

 

[THUMPER]

You have to throw Barry Sanders in there simply because, had he played as long as he could have, he would hold the rushing record or be very close to Emmitt. The guy was that good, so you have to consider him.

That's part of the problem, he DIDN'T play as long as he might have therefore he is not a part of the equation. He was also a one-dimensional player compared with the others in that he was almost strictly a runner and was not a great receiver, was useless as a blocker, and taken out in short-yardage/goalline situations.

Emmitt wasn't the best receiver either but he was pretty good and was one of the best blocking non-fullbacks I've ever seen plus he was money at the goalline. Jim Brown wasn't a great blocker but was an excellent receiver and outstanding in short-yardage. Payton was the best all-around RB ever IMO but didn't have the success that Emmitt did plus he played in a more run-oriented era.

The three of them are comparable and each had strengths and weaknesses compared with the other two but were far and away better than anyone else.

Barry Sanders was a great individual player but was inconsistent and was not a huge help to his team. He also disappeared in the playoffs and was not a great "money" back in terms of scoring. The way he quit on his team also sours me on him and drops him down to around 7th in my rankings.

 

[jazzcat22]

Emmitt...simply the best ever.....

Ocho & TO.....the most fined duo ever WR tandem...they will try to out do each others TD celebrations, and be fined time and time again...:laugh2:

 

[jbsg02]

Is it just me or is Ken Hamlin's tie massive?

 

[bbgun]

Is it just me or is Ken Hamlin's tie massive?

he's not exactly articulate, which makes him an odd choice as a panelist

 

[BubbleScreen]

Erick Williams, Keving Gogan, Mark Stepnoski, Nate Newton, Mark Tuini, Frank Cornish, John Gesek, Larry Allen, Derrek Kennard, Ray Donalson..

So, exactly which O-line out of that group was " the greatest of all time " ?

Larry Allen. Emmitt will have fewer OL in the HoF than Jim Brown does.

I forget where I saw this, but it has stuck in my mind: Nate Newton: [something to the effect that he was an ordinary OL]... "but now that Emmitt's here, I'm an All-Pro!"

Anyone putting Emmitt below #3 All Time is blind. He has more rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, and Super Bowl wins than any other all-time great.

 

[theogt]

Is it just me or is Ken Hamlin's tie massive?

The tie isn't massive. He just ties it such that the fat part is really short, and it forms a huge knot. See Irvin's HOF speech.

 

[PullMyFinger]

Simply put. Emmitt had THE BEST offensive line ever assembled to run behind.

You cant punish someone for being on a good team, Rice isnt, and he played in a dink and dunk offense, easy to get receiving yards in that kind of offense.