Video: Jerry Jones sits down with Steve Dennis

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Yakuza Rich;2663168 said:
I could care less if DCFanatic is pessimistic, just as long as he's logical and somewhat rational. Obviously, he's not. Here's a look at the records of teams in the NFL for the last 4 years:

1. Indianapolis Colts 51-13
2. New England Patriots 49-15
3. San Diego Chargers 42-22
4. New York Giants 41-23
5. Pittsburgh Steelers 41-23
6. Chicago Bears 40-24
7. Dallas Cowboys 40-24
8. Carolina Panthers 38-26
9. Denver Broncos 37-27
10. Jacksonville Jaguars 36-28
11. Seattle Seahawks 36-28
12. Baltimore Ravens 35-29
13. Tennessee Titans 35-29
14. Minnesota Vikings 33-31
15. Philadelphia Eagles 33-30-1
16. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 33-31
17. Washington Commanders 32-32
18. Green Bay Packers 31-33
19. Atlanta Falcons 30-34
20. Cincinnati Bengals 30-33-1
21. New Orleans Saints 28-36
22. Arizona Cardinals 27-37
23. Miami Dolphins 27-37
24. New York Jets 27-37
25. Buffalo Bills 26-38
26. Kansas City Chiefs 25-39
27. Cleveland Browns 24-40
28. Houston Texans 24-40
29. San Francisco 49ers 23-41
30. St. Louis Rams 19-45
31. Detroit Lions 15-49
32. Oakland Raiders 15-49


So I guess 25 other owners are just one bad draft away from being Al Davis.




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Awesome!

How many playoff wins do the Cowboys and the Raiders have in the last 4 years?

0.

And what other franchises brought in players that most other franchises wanted nothing to do with?

What other franchises have an owner also posing as the GM and thinking this is fantasy football by just throwing money all over the joint?

Trying to defend Jerry with regular season wins, lol.

What are we an expansion franchise???

Stop acting like Wade Phillips.
 

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dadymat;2662877 said:
Al? that is so ridiculous.....he is in no way like Al....:bang2:

You're right. At one time Al was actually a good GM.
 

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adbutcher;2663172 said:
That will leave a mark. :D

Yeah, a big fat check mark in the box marked - Hasn't won a playoff game in the last four years.

But you keep being happy with 13 win seasons like Jerry, Wade and Yakuza Rich.
 

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dcfanatic;2663209 said:
Yeah, a big fat check mark in the box marked - Hasn't won a playoff game in the last four years.

But you keep being happy with 13 win seasons like Jerry, Wade and Yakuza Rich.

You must be off of your meds today. Did you cheek them? Between you and Shango, I don't think either one of you could handle a successful season.

Instead of yelling to the rafters that the end is nigh, how about waiting a little bit before you sell all your stuff and joining a cult.

Edit:

When we won 13 games, naturally I was happy.

When we lost in the first round, naturally I was disappointed.

When we won 9 games and missed the playoffs, naturally I was disappointed.

This season we are 0-0, imo, there is no need to break out the pitchforks or happy dance.
 

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dcfanatic;2663209 said:
Yeah, a big fat check mark in the box marked - Hasn't won a playoff game in the last four years.

But you keep being happy with 13 win seasons like Jerry, Wade and Yakuza Rich.

Who really cares about winning a playoff game? Isn't the GOAL of the franchise to WIN the Super Bowl? The Skins have won 1 playoff game in the last 4 years. Does that make Daniel Snyder a good owner? Does that make him better than Jerry? Guess how many playoff games Bill Parcells' teams have won lately. Does that make Parcells a poor football mind?

How many playoff games have the Bucs won lately? Or the Titans?

Do you really think an owner has complete control over whether a team wins a playoff game or not?

And what is the difference between Jerry saying that they might make Felix the starter over somebody like Parcells saying 'no position is safe on the roster' like he did when he was with Dallas?

If you want to say that Jerry brings too much unecessary and unwarranted distractions to this team, fine. If you want to say that Jerry should not have extended Owens' contract, fine. If you want to say that Jerry doesn't provide an atmosphere where the coaches can be leaders, fine.

But saying that Jerry is one step away from being Al Davis is beyond ludicrous and makes you look INSANE and OBSESSED and hardly logical or rational. Either that, or the league is filled with 25 other owners who are one step away from being Al Davis.




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Yakuza Rich;2663242 said:
makes you look INSANE and OBSESSED and hardly logical or rational. Either that, or the league is filled with 25 other owners who are one step away from being Al Davis.

YAKUZA

His name is DCFANATIC. And he shows more logic than most here. You posted a stat of the last 4 years, but funny how you left off the 5-11 seasons. Wonder why? Were you also the guy who said D-Ware was the second best player on Cowboys D-fense? Talk about insane!
 

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Yakuza Rich;2663168 said:
I could care less if DCFanatic is pessimistic, just as long as he's logical and somewhat rational. Obviously, he's not. Here's a look at the records of teams in the NFL for the last 4 years:

1. Indianapolis Colts 51-13
2. New England Patriots 49-15
3. San Diego Chargers 42-22
4. New York Giants 41-23
5. Pittsburgh Steelers 41-23
6. Chicago Bears 40-24
7. Dallas Cowboys 40-24
8. Carolina Panthers 38-26
9. Denver Broncos 37-27
10. Jacksonville Jaguars 36-28
11. Seattle Seahawks 36-28
12. Baltimore Ravens 35-29
13. Tennessee Titans 35-29
14. Minnesota Vikings 33-31
15. Philadelphia Eagles 33-30-1
16. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 33-31
17. Washington Commanders 32-32
18. Green Bay Packers 31-33
19. Atlanta Falcons 30-34
20. Cincinnati Bengals 30-33-1
21. New Orleans Saints 28-36
22. Arizona Cardinals 27-37
23. Miami Dolphins 27-37
24. New York Jets 27-37
25. Buffalo Bills 26-38
26. Kansas City Chiefs 25-39
27. Cleveland Browns 24-40
28. Houston Texans 24-40
29. San Francisco 49ers 23-41
30. St. Louis Rams 19-45
31. Detroit Lions 15-49
32. Oakland Raiders 15-49


So I guess 25 other owners are just one bad draft away from being Al Davis.




YAKUZA

FWIW I don't think it is fair to attack DCF here.

He has plenty of media brethren and other fans making the same silly statement.

He's guilty of buying in to the dbags like JFE and Galloway sure but it wasn't his opinion alone.

Come back to the light DCF.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2663246 said:
His name is DCFANATIC. And he shows more logic than most here. You posted a stat of the last 4 years, but funny how you left off the 5-11 seasons. Wonder why? Were you also the guy who said D-Ware was the second best player on Cowboys D-fense? Talk about insane!

Gee, let's take a look at the last 5 years:

1. Indianapolis Colts 63-17
2. New England Patriots 63-17
3. Pittsburgh Steelers 56-24
4. San Diego Chargers 54-26
5. Denver Broncos 47-33
6. New York Giants 47-33
7. Dallas Cowboys 46-34
8. Philadelphia Eagles 46-33-1
9. Carolina Panthers 45-35
10. Chicago Bears 45-35
11. Jacksonville Jaguars 45-35
12. Seattle Seahawks 45-35
13. Baltimore Ravens 44-36
14. Atlanta Falcons 41-39
15. Green Bay Packers 41-39
16. Minnesota Vikings 41-39
17. Tennessee Titans 40-40
18. Cincinnati Bengals 38-41-1
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 38-42
20. Washington Commanders 38-42
21. New York Jets 37-43
22. New Orleans Saints 36-44
23. Buffalo Bills 35-45
24. Arizona Cardinals 33-47
25. Kansas City Chiefs 32-48
26. Houston Texans 31-49
27. Miami Dolphins 31-49
28. Cleveland Browns 28-52
29. St. Louis Rams 27-53
30. San Francisco 49ers 25-55
31. Detroit Lions 21-59
32. Oakland Raiders 20-60

So Dallas went from the 7th most wins since 2005 to the 7th most wins since 2004. Wonder why I didn't post the last 5 years now?

And yes, at one point I *thought* that Ware may be the second best player on the defense. It wasn't like Jay Ratliff was terrorizing D-Linemen and had an amazing 8 sacks this season from the NT position in a 3-4 scheme or anything like that. Nope, not at all.




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dcfanatic;2663209 said:
Yeah, a big fat check mark in the box marked - Hasn't won a playoff game in the last four years.

But you keep being happy with 13 win seasons like Jerry, Wade and Yakuza Rich.

By your logic Jerry Jones is a better GM than Tex Schramm.

Jerry after all won 3 Super Bowls to Tex's 2.

And Landry of course must be an awful coach to only win 2 SBs in all those seasons. I mean, sheesh, Switzer won 1 in his short NFL career.

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Yakuza Rich;2663304 said:
So Dallas went from the 7th most wins since 2005 to the 7th most wins since 2004. Wonder why I didn't post the last 5 years now?

And yes, at one point I *thought* that Ware may be the second best player on the defense. It wasn't like Jay Ratliff was terrorizing D-Linemen and had an amazing 8 sacks this season from the NT position in a 3-4 scheme or anything like that. Nope, not at all.

YAKUZA

Do Jerrys 20 years as an owner vs the league in that time span. Not to prove any point, just curious. And i am happy to hear you changed your stance on D-Ware, i think you were being extreme.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2663323 said:
Do Jerrys 20 years as an owner vs the league in that time span. Not to prove any point, just curious. And i am happy to hear you changed your stance on D-Ware, i think you were being extreme.
Why is it even necessary to go back that far? This is the hear and now? What has the team accomplished now?

Some good regular season success and suck *** postseason success.

One playoff win in the past decade wouldn't change that fact.

Building a team that's in contention every year w/the goal of a superbowl is better than a bunch of highs and lows. This team needs to get over the hump, but one playoff win won't do it. A playoff run might.

I think a superbowl win plus a follow-up playoff run would.
 

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jterrell;2663305 said:
By your logic Jerry Jones is a better GM than Tex Schramm.

Jerry after all won 3 Super Bowls to Tex's 2.

And Landry of course must be an awful coach to only win 2 SBs in all those seasons. I mean, sheesh, Switzer won 1 in his short NFL career.

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And that is the whole of it...I think DCF actually bought into the Cowboys being the best team...because the fine season they had before and that the press said it and by golly it just must be true....

Well in truth it is VERY hard to win in the NFL... Everything has to fall just perfectly if you are the best team in the NFL...if you aren't the best team then you need luck to be a part of the equation.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2663323 said:
Do Jerrys 20 years as an owner vs the league in that time span. Not to prove any point, just curious.

I think that would actually prove my point. The problem is most people remember '97 and then the Campo years, but outside of that Jones has been extremely successful as an owner win-loss wise. It takes me a little while to accumulate the records, but I think it's pretty safe to say that the win-loss record over the last 20 years has been pretty darn good compared to the rest of the league.

Instead, I posted the last 4 years because I would imagine that the Jerry haters are mostly criticizing his performance as of late. His performance as of late has been very good. And I think the Jerry haters either hated him from the beginning (probably the Landry firing) or hated him in the post Jimmy years, when the team started to fall apart after the Super Bowl with Switzer.

And i am happy to hear you changed your stance on D-Ware, i think you were being extreme.

I wasn't trying to be extreme. I was trying to figure out who was better at their position. And at one point, I thought Ratliff was playing better at NT than Ware was at OLB. People forget that Ware early on in 2008 was playing quite alright, but usually didn't get a sack until later on in the game, like in the 4th quarter. Ratliff OTOH was just about dominating and making big plays early on in the game.

But in the second half of the season Ware raised his level of play quite a bit and had that 'wow' factor and was quite unstoppable. Meanwhile, Ratliff's play probably dipped a tad, but was still good. 8 sacks out of the NT position in the 3-4 is probably about the equivalent of having 14-18 sacks as a 3-4 OLB, IMO.



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jterrell;2663305 said:
By your logic Jerry Jones is a better GM than Tex Schramm.

Jerry after all won 3 Super Bowls to Tex's 2.

And Landry of course must be an awful coach to only win 2 SBs in all those seasons. I mean, sheesh, Switzer won 1 in his short NFL career.

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Of course we all know that Jimmy was the acting GM in those first 5 years. So anyone giving Jerry credit for 3 SB's as GM is an idiot.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2663344 said:
I think that would actually prove my point.

Then post the stats, so you can continue to pound your chest in victory.

Yakuza Rich;2663344 said:
I wasn't trying to be extreme. I was trying to figure out who was better at their position. And at one point, I thought Ratliff was playing better at NT than Ware was at OLB. People forget that Ware early on in 2008 was playing quite alright, but usually didn't get a sack until later on in the game, like in the 4th quarter. Ratliff OTOH was just about dominating and making big plays early on in the game.

But in the second half of the season Ware raised his level of play quite a bit and had that 'wow' factor and was quite unstoppable. Meanwhile, Ratliff's play probably dipped a tad, but was still good. 8 sacks out of the NT position in the 3-4 is probably about the equivalent of having 14-18 sacks as a 3-4 OLB, IMO.

I disagree. Ware has been great since day ONE. You have man love for Rat, and he really played well last season. No doubt. Better than Ware? Not a fat chance!

As for calling me a Jerry hater...who cares? I want the Dallas Cowboys to win again. I’ll mail you a Jerry Jones 50,000 piece puzzle.
 

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Jerry's job as GM is to assemble talent so the coach can lead the team to victories hopefully including playoff wins. He has been doing that lately. You can't fault his latest drafts esp the last one.

It's when Jerry says things about determining who is going to start at RB for the team and the like. I always thought that was the coaches job. He has emasculated Wade in the public's eye. I think that Jerry doesn't actually determine who starts or plays when and where the overwhelmingly vast majority of time. But that statement says differently and that's what people take away. You always have to be careful what you say and Jerry is a person with the best intentions who often shoots himself in the foot.
 

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arglebargle;2662966 said:
I just don't think he wants to blow up the team this year, when next year, Jerry will have a choice of Shanahan, Holmgren, Garrett, and who knows who else. And an uncapped year to play with.

I agree, and by the way we were 9-7 last year, and not 4-12. This team, for all it's faults is not far away personell wise just leadership wise. Bring back a healthy Felix, and get Romo protection with rope to throw it to the open guy and this team will be in the hunt THIS year.
 

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jobberone;2663383 said:
Jerry's job as GM is to assemble talent so the coach can lead the team to victories hopefully including playoff wins. He has been doing that lately. You can't fault his latest drafts esp the last one.

It's when Jerry says things about determining who is going to start at RB for the team and the like. I always thought that was the coaches job. He has emasculated Wade in the public's eye. I think that Jerry doesn't actually determine who starts or plays when and where the overwhelmingly vast majority of time. But that statement says differently and that's what people take away. You always have to be careful what you say and Jerry is a person with the best intentions who often shoots himself in the foot.

I think that is a fair assessment.
 

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adbutcher;2663233 said:
You must be off of your meds today. Did you cheek them? Between you and Shango, I don't think either one of you could handle a successful season.

Instead of yelling to the rafters that the end is nigh, how about waiting a little bit before you sell all your stuff and joining a cult.

Edit:

When we won 13 games, naturally I was happy.

When we lost in the first round, naturally I was disappointed.

When we won 9 games and missed the playoffs, naturally I was disappointed.

This season we are 0-0, imo, there is no need to break out the pitchforks or happy dance.

I have waited for 13 years for a playoff win.

Should I be patient and wait another 13 years before I get a little annoyed?

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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Yakuza Rich;2663242 said:
Who really cares about winning a playoff game? Isn't the GOAL of the franchise to WIN the Super Bowl? The Skins have won 1 playoff game in the last 4 years. Does that make Daniel Snyder a good owner? Does that make him better than Jerry? Guess how many playoff games Bill Parcells' teams have won lately. Does that make Parcells a poor football mind?

How many playoff games have the Bucs won lately? Or the Titans?

Do you really think an owner has complete control over whether a team wins a playoff game or not?

And what is the difference between Jerry saying that they might make Felix the starter over somebody like Parcells saying 'no position is safe on the roster' like he did when he was with Dallas?

If you want to say that Jerry brings too much unecessary and unwarranted distractions to this team, fine. If you want to say that Jerry should not have extended Owens' contract, fine. If you want to say that Jerry doesn't provide an atmosphere where the coaches can be leaders, fine.

But saying that Jerry is one step away from being Al Davis is beyond ludicrous and makes you look INSANE and OBSESSED and hardly logical or rational. Either that, or the league is filled with 25 other owners who are one step away from being Al Davis.


YAKUZA

So you don't see any similarities in having an old owner/gm who is micromanaging every little nook and cranny of a team that hasn't had any recent success in the post season?

A simple yes or no answer will do on this one.
 
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