Video: Jerry Jones sits down with Steve Dennis

[DallasEast]

It's not about liking it, they have been shown to be lying on numerous occasions but one of them came out and said that Jerry was gonna cut Romo tomorrow- some would still lap it up as gospel.

You go git 'em, Media Crusader! :toast:

 

[5Countem5]

You go git 'em, Media Crusader! :toast:

You're little 3rd grade game is humorous but are you saying they haven't been lying?

I can't tell...

 

[DallasEast]

You're little 3rd grade game is humorous but are you saying they haven't been lying?

I can't tell...

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[5Countem5]

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Even more childish, kudos...


But it should read..."5Countem5- I know BS when I see it"

 

[DallasEast]

Even more childish, kudos...


But it should read..."5Countem5- I know BS when I see it"

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[chinch]

it's laughable that total homers are happy about a 7. Dallas Cowboys 46-34 record while totally dismissing our playoff, coaching, GM & ownership disasters. HOW ABOUT OUR DECEMBER RECORD (not even factoring playoffs).

Oh well, rearranging chairs on the Titanic seemed like a good idea to some also i guess. LOL

 

[MONT17]

his job is to bring in talent that wins... at least a playoff game!

 

[jterrell]

Jerry's the one that told Jimmy to act like he was discussing things with him all for show for the war room TV camera's. Jimmy, scouts and coaching staff narrowed it down to 2 or 3 players and then Jerry and Jimmy negotiated with them on the phone. Jerry knew jack and squat about talent.



GM's don't pay players, owners do. The ability to pay a player is totally irrelevant to discussions about a GM.



And why was it awful post-Jimmy? Because it was run by Jerry and Lacewell. Once Jimmy left Jerry should've been wise enough to hire a real GM and build the scouting dept back up. But in his lust for recognition and glory, he wanted to prove he could do the same thing Jimmy did. And it ultimately led to three straight 5-11 seasons.

All that would be fine if it was true.

It wasn't.
Jerry was on the phone negotiating with draft picks. That's how we ended up with Russell Maryland over Rocket. It wasn't Jimmy on the phone. They had the camera on the guy the entire time.

Jerry overruled Jimmy on Troy Aikman and that was day 1.
Bob Ackles and the personnel guys loved Aikman but Jimmy didn't. He called him a "loser". Jerry was gonna draft Troy to sell jerseys whether Troy was a "loser" or not.

Jerry has never been a talent evaluator but he has always been GM.
You seem to lack the basic understanding of what that entails. It is not being director of college scouting or even pro personnel. It is managing the team. Jerry has always done that. He told Jimmy what he would pay for guys and Jimmy worked from that. Jimmy was able to get his message across to the team all the while Jerry was on the sideline or in the locker room. Jimmy did a better job of handling the micro-management but this fairy tale that it didn't exist in 1992 is just that.

Jerry has never intimated he drew up draft boards himself or drafted who he wanted by himself.

It sucked once Jimmy left because Lacewell was awful but also because the asst's who had great intel about guys they had recruited out of high school no longer did 3 or 4 years later. So you had asst's trying to be part-time scouts and that is an awful way to rank players. Jerry's worst firing was of the personnel dept guys not Jimmy. Jimmy was fried and done. He had no desire to grind through rebuilding the team he had helped build.

 

[jterrell]

it's laughable that total homers are happy about a 7. Dallas Cowboys 46-34 record while totally dismissing our playoff, coaching, GM & ownership disasters. HOW ABOUT OUR DECEMBER RECORD (not even factoring playoffs).

Oh well, rearranging chairs on the Titanic seemed like a good idea to some also i guess. LOL

What's laughable is that you call it being happy to note the owner isn't al davis.

That record is 7th and that is clearly just 7th in regular season wins is pretty far from being a 2 or 3 win laughingstock.

Again if 9-7 is the Titanic then what is 2 or 3 wins? Hiroshima?

That's been the problem all along this off-season, a subset of "fans" who have zero perspective. So they pontificate their whiny arguments here trying to drag everyone else down to the land of over exaggeration and melancholy.

 

[Bach]

All that would be fine if it was true.

It wasn't.
Jerry was on the phone negotiating with draft picks. That's how we ended up with Russell Maryland over Rocket. It wasn't Jimmy on the phone. They had the camera on the guy the entire time.

Jerry overruled Jimmy on Troy Aikman and that was day 1.
Bob Ackles and the personnel guys loved Aikman but Jimmy didn't. He called him a "loser". Jerry was gonna draft Troy to sell jerseys whether Troy was a "loser" or not.

Jerry has never been a talent evaluator but he has always been GM.
You seem to lack the basic understanding of what that entails. It is not being director of college scouting or even pro personnel. It is managing the team. Jerry has always done that. He told Jimmy what he would pay for guys and Jimmy worked from that. Jimmy was able to get his message across to the team all the while Jerry was on the sideline or in the locker room. Jimmy did a better job of handling the micro-management but this fairy tale that it didn't exist in 1992 is just that.

Jerry has never intimated he drew up draft boards himself or drafted who he wanted by himself.

It sucked once Jimmy left because Lacewell was awful but also because the asst's who had great intel about guys they had recruited out of high school no longer did 3 or 4 years later. So you had asst's trying to be part-time scouts and that is an awful way to rank players. Jerry's worst firing was of the personnel dept guys not Jimmy. Jimmy was fried and done. He had no desire to grind through rebuilding the team he had helped build.

You and your revisionist history is laughable. Jerry was and is the GM only because he gave himself that title. Jimmy and his staff built those Super Bowl teams and Jerry ran it into the ground once he left and had to come begging for someone like Parcells to turn it around for him. Once that was done and Parcells left, Jerry went right back to his old ways of hiring a puppet HC and micromanaging everything from the staff to personnel.

Hopefully with the scouting system in place now we'll have more success than we did when Jerry and Lacewell ran things. But as far as the coaching staff goes, Jerry is calling all the shots while basically just having a HC who is primarily just a coordinator with a bigger title, ala Gailey and Campo. Now that was really a recipe for success wasn't it? And now we're right back to that same old philosophy.

 

[jterrell]

You and your revisionist history is laughable. Jerry was and is the GM only because he gave himself that title. Jimmy and his staff built those Super Bowl teams and Jerry ran it into the ground once he left and had to come begging for someone like Parcells to turn it around for him. Once that was done and Parcells left, Jerry went right back to his old ways of hiring a puppet HC and micromanaging everything from the staff to personnel.

Hopefully with the scouting system in place now we'll have more success than we did when Jerry and Lacewell ran things. But as far as the coaching staff goes, Jerry is calling all the shots while basically just having a HC who is primarily just a coordinator with a bigger title, ala Gailey and Campo. Now that was really a recipe for success wasn't it? And now we're right back to that same old philosophy.

This argument could on forever so let me just make a few points then I'll move on.

1) Jimmy had no idea how to run an NFL offense. He had David Shula and Norv Turner handed to him. He also had Michael Irvin and a large handful of other guys like Herschel Walker already here.

He didn't trade Herschel to get that draft bounty. He traded him because Jerry wouldn't pay the guy what he wanted.

2) Jerry said day 1 he was going to manage things, from socks to jocks.
He micro-managed all along. Jimmy was a powerful head coach because he got what he wanted from Jerry 9 times out of 10 including a buyout so he could head off to fish in Florida. But the title was always GM for Jerry. And of course at the start he sat back and tried to learn what went on. He had never been in the business. He made a multitude of mistakes. But he was always GM. He always had final say and final authority and he always will. He has offered media members who sound like you, to come look at those contracts. They never take him up on it because like you they'd prefer to believe what they want.

3) A lot of what I am posting comes from Jerry's autobiographies but the rest comes from Jimmy's. He is just as self-preening as BP but he admits many aspects of what I have posted in those books, including how he didn't want Aikman. In fact he never drafted Irvin, didn't want Aikman and was talked into Emmitt after his 2 or 3 targeted defensive guys came off the board.

4) Jimmy never made a single trade or drafted a single player without Jerry there. He always was involved. Doesn't mean he fielded every call but he was always int he mix. He sit back in Highland Park ever. He was always in the middle of whatever the Cowboys did. The fact he trusted Jimmy as his football guy just meant he gave Jimmy personnel dept responsibilities but he never let Jimmy dictate anything to do with money. Jerry always decided every aspect of where the team practiced, held camp, et al.

As to the separate point and going forward, absolutely it is hopeful Jerry learned from Bill to "unlearn" the nonsensical front office philosophy he had under Jimmy of allowing coaches to rank players. Scouts build the board, then coaches beg for their guys they like.

You win by having a good scouting team in place. We have that now. If we continue to draft well we will win games, including playoff games, sooner rather that later.

 

[5Countem5]

This argument could on forever so let me just make a few points then I'll move on.

1) Jimmy had no idea how to run an NFL offense. He had David Shula and Norv Turner handed to him. He also had Michael Irvin and a large handful of other guys like Herschel Walker already here.

He didn't trade Herschel to get that draft bounty. He traded him because Jerry wouldn't pay the guy what he wanted.

2) Jerry said day 1 he was going to manage things, from socks to jocks.
He micro-managed all along. Jimmy was a powerful head coach because he got what he wanted from Jerry 9 times out of 10 including a buyout so he could head off to fish in Florida. But the title was always GM for Jerry. And of course at the start he sat back and tried to learn what went on. He had never been in the business. He made a multitude of mistakes. But he was always GM. He always had final say and final authority and he always will. He has offered media members who sound like you, to come look at those contracts. They never take him up on it because like you they'd prefer to believe what they want.

3) A lot of what I am posting comes from Jerry's autobiographies but the rest comes from Jimmy's. He is just as self-preening as BP but he admits many aspects of what I have posted in those books, including how he didn't want Aikman. In fact he never drafted Irvin, didn't want Aikman and was talked into Emmitt after his 2 or 3 targeted defensive guys came off the board.

4) Jimmy never made a single trade or drafted a single player without Jerry there. He always was involved. Doesn't mean he fielded every call but he was always int he mix. He sit back in Highland Park ever. He was always in the middle of whatever the Cowboys did. The fact he trusted Jimmy as his football guy just meant he gave Jimmy personnel dept responsibilities but he never let Jimmy dictate anything to do with money. Jerry always decided every aspect of where the team practiced, held camp, et al.

As to the separate point and going forward, absolutely it is hopeful Jerry learned from Bill to "unlearn" the nonsensical front office philosophy he had under Jimmy of allowing coaches to rank players. Scouts build the board, then coaches beg for their guys they like.

You win by having a good scouting team in place. We have that now. If we continue to draft well we will win games, including playoff games, sooner rather that later.

Anyone remember that Norv wasn't Jimmy's first choice when he hired him?

Anyone know who was?

 

[Bach]

2) Jerry said day 1 he was going to manage things, from socks to jocks.
He micro-managed all along.

Oh lord it's getting deep in here.

So how many assistants did Jerry hire for Jimmy like he's done with Switzer, Gailey, Campo and Wade? I take it you're going to tell me all those former Hurricane assistants Jimmy brought with him was Jerry's idea? Get real man. Jerry didn't micromanage Jimmy's staff or personnel those first five years - and that's why we won!

But the title was always GM for Jerry. And of course at the start he sat back and tried to learn what went on. He had never been in the business. He made a multitude of mistakes. But he was always GM. He always had final say and final authority and he always will.

Yeah, we all know he gave himself a title while Jimmy made most of the decisions and Jerry just rubberstamped them. Just like when BP was here.

But that wasn't the case under Switzer, Gailey, Campo or now with Wade.

A lot of what I am posting comes from Jerry's autobiographies but the rest comes from Jimmy's.

Oh that explains it. You actually believe Jerry's twisted version of the events.

4) Jimmy never made a single trade or drafted a single player without Jerry there. He always was involved. Doesn't mean he fielded every call but he was always int he mix. He sit back in Highland Park ever. He was always in the middle of whatever the Cowboys did. The fact he trusted Jimmy as his football guy just meant he gave Jimmy personnel dept responsibilities but he never let Jimmy dictate anything to do with money. Jerry always decided every aspect of where the team practiced, held camp, et al.

That's just it, Jimmy made the decisions and Jerry rubberstamped them. So what? We've all seen what happens when Jerry actually comes up with the ideas and plan and micromanages as opposed to when Jimmy or Parcells made the decisions with Jerry "having the final say".

That's the ENTIRE point. Jerry is now back to having the first, middle and final say - whereas with Jimmy and Bill - they made most of the calls and he just rubberstamped them.

You win by having a good scouting team in place. We have that now. If we continue to draft well we will win games, including playoff games, sooner rather that later.

Well we better hope we have a good personnel dept in place and Jerry listens to them. Because we've all seen what happens when Jerry listens to himself or idiots he surrounds himself with.

 

[dadymat]

The hatred in you grows......

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[5Countem5]

The hatred in you grows......

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[Bach]

The hatred in you grows......

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Some call it just being truthful.

 

[dadymat]

Some call it just being truthful.

and some think because it is their opinion its truthful......

 

[Bach]

and some think because it is their opinion its truthful......

It's not just an opinion. Just look at the last 20 years with an open mind. It's not difficult to see.

 

[DallasEast]

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Your Google Image searches are one of my favorite things about this board.

It's so cool that Google Images exists so people with less wit and intellect can participate here too.

Mucho props on the Darth Vader tie-in though.

 

[Bach]

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Your Google Image searches are one of my favorite things about this board.

It's so cool that Google Images exists so people with less wit and intellect can participate here too.