Video: Jerry Jones sits down with Steve Dennis

[dcfanatic]

FWIW I don't think it is fair to attack DCF here.

He has plenty of media brethren and other fans making the same silly statement.

He's guilty of buying in to the dbags like JFE and Galloway sure but it wasn't his opinion alone.

Come back to the light DCF.

I am trying to come back to the light.

I actually liked the moves, somewhat, for Kitna and Brookings. At least we filled two open spots is what I said to myself.

But then I hear Jerry in yet another interview (what's this his 12th since he said the team needs to focus on the task at hand?) mumbling and bumbling around simple questions like he's got something to hide and it's more than frustrating.

If he was on top of things and had an idea of what the heck was going on he wouldn't need so much 'double talk' in all of these interviews.

Stop trying to convince us everything is just fine Jerry. We aren't stupid and most of us see that you have no clue as to what the answers are to fixing the problems.

I am not even sure he knows what the correct questions are that he should be asking of himself and the organization right now.

And I am sorry if it's been two months since that debacle in Philly and I am still not over the 2008 season. I had my hopes up pretty high for last season and the punch in the gut I got hasn't healed just yet. Call me after the draft and maybe I will be.

 

[dadymat]

You're right. At one time Al was actually a good GM.

hes had some rough times at it but you cant complain about his last 4 seasons as GM......well you probably could.......his job is to bring in talent.......ummmm..i think we have some talent .....but according to some Jerry only gets credit for the bad, not the good hes done.....if you would stop playing with your Jerry train and actually look at the good hes done and quit trying to make everything that is wrong in the world Jerrys fault you may be a happier person for it..........hes the best owner in all of sports......and hes learned to be a good GM...stop using the "no playoff wins in 12 years " excuse .....hes givin them everything they needed to win in post season ....the PLAYERS at some point have to be responsible and get it done......Jerry doesnt Coach, kick, hold, block, pass, or catch for this team......

 

[dcfanatic]

By your logic Jerry Jones is a better GM than Tex Schramm.

Jerry after all won 3 Super Bowls to Tex's 2.

And Landry of course must be an awful coach to only win 2 SBs in all those seasons. I mean, sheesh, Switzer won 1 in his short NFL career.

....................

You loving that 13 win season like Wade?

Or would you have traded the 13 wins for at least one playoff win?

And why is it important that this crop of players get a playoff win? Because it's a progressive step forward and that's what we want.

We want progression from this team.

We don't want a team going backwards which is exactly where this team is headed right now.

 

[dcfanatic]

And that is the whole of it...I think DCF actually bought into the Cowboys being the best team...because the fine season they had before and that the press said it and by golly it just must be true....

Well in truth it is VERY hard to win in the NFL... Everything has to fall just perfectly if you are the best team in the NFL...if you aren't the best team then you need luck to be a part of the equation.

Forget about the press saying it!

The fans said it! The rest of the league said it! The players said it! The head coach said it!

Jerry ****ing Jones said it!

Now all of a sudden people are coming out of the woodwork in saying that they knew the team really wasn't that good prior to the 2008 season.

Give me a break. That's you buying into Jerry and his horse**** answer about the media being mad at the Cowboys for being a huge failure in 2008.

The media aren't fans. Todd Archer isn't a Cowboys fan. Peter King isn't a Cowboys fan. Adam Schefter isn't a Cowboys fan. They are reporting and speculating about why they stunk it up based on the fact that they did stink it up, not because they are mad that their favorite team let them down.

 

[dcfanatic]

Of course we all know that Jimmy was the acting GM in those first 5 years. So anyone giving Jerry credit for 3 SB's as GM is an idiot.

Jimmy actually said this in his interview with Dale Hansen recently. After the first three or so years Jerry had settled down with the business stuff because the business side of the team was structured and running smoothly.

That's when Jerry got bored and needed to get his hands in on the football side too.

 

[dcfanatic]

Jerry's job as GM is to assemble talent so the coach can lead the team to victories hopefully including playoff wins. He has been doing that lately. You can't fault his latest drafts esp the last one.

It's when Jerry says things about determining who is going to start at RB for the team and the like. I always thought that was the coaches job. He has emasculated Wade in the public's eye. I think that Jerry doesn't actually determine who starts or plays when and where the overwhelmingly vast majority of time. But that statement says differently and that's what people take away. You always have to be careful what you say and Jerry is a person with the best intentions who often shoots himself in the foot.

That's Jerry's problem.

He's got 39 hats on right now.

Give up some power big guy. Let someone else, like maybe Wade, control a few things here and there.

And I can't stand Wade and have no idea if he would make the right decisions.

But at least we would have a real head coach in place.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We don't want a team going backwards which is exactly where this team is headed right now.

How many teams can go 13-3, then repeat that the next year with the injuries like we had last year? I'm guessing very very few.

 

[jterrell]

Of course we all know that Jimmy was the acting GM in those first 5 years. So anyone giving Jerry credit for 3 SB's as GM is an idiot.

anyone posting that is an idiot.

Jerry was on the phone with draft picks before they could be signed.
All the while Jimmy sat beside him in the war room.

Jimmy didn't control the ability to pay any player thus he wasn't GM. He was the personnel guy and coach. Jerry had zero player personnel experience and his biggest mistake was tearing down a good personnel department and letting Jimmy and the coaching staff build the draft boards. It worked initially but was awful post-Jimmy.

 

[jterrell]

Then post the stats, so you can continue to pound your chest in victory.



I disagree. Ware has been great since day ONE. You have man love for Rat, and he really played well last season. No doubt. Better than Ware? Not a fat chance!

As for calling me a Jerry hater...who cares? I want the Dallas Cowboys to win again. I’ll mail you a Jerry Jones 50,000 piece puzzle.

Compile the stats for yourself.

Asking others to do legwork is silly.

 

[jterrell]

Jerry's job as GM is to assemble talent so the coach can lead the team to victories hopefully including playoff wins. He has been doing that lately. You can't fault his latest drafts esp the last one.

It's when Jerry says things about determining who is going to start at RB for the team and the like. I always thought that was the coaches job. He has emasculated Wade in the public's eye. I think that Jerry doesn't actually determine who starts or plays when and where the overwhelmingly vast majority of time. But that statement says differently and that's what people take away. You always have to be careful what you say and Jerry is a person with the best intentions who often shoots himself in the foot.

Good post.

And its not even just that but that Jerry says things, Wade does something different, but all the while the media just points to Jerry as de facto coach.

Wade has started who he wanted even when Jerry gave interviews during the week announcing otherwise. It is clear Wade is on the field and makes the call but he is not arguing with Jerry about or claiming any inherent rights in public because he probably doesn't want to 1 up his employer.

Wade decided to start Ellis all year. Jerry wanted to see Spencer and he got to but Wade kept Ellis as a starter. Wade is not some football idiot. He knows the game and he knows how to deal with egomaniacs like Jerry. Last season got away from him but there isn't a single coach out there who can't point to a season and say my gosh that was awful.

 

[Zaxor]

Forget about the press saying it!

The fans said it! The rest of the league said it! The players said it! The head coach said it!

Jerry ****ing Jones said it!

Now all of a sudden people are coming out of the woodwork in saying that they knew the team really wasn't that good prior to the 2008 season.

Give me a break. That's you buying into Jerry and his horse**** answer about the media being mad at the Cowboys for being a huge failure in 2008.

The media aren't fans. Todd Archer isn't a Cowboys fan. Peter King isn't a Cowboys fan. Adam Schefter isn't a Cowboys fan. They are reporting and speculating about why they stunk it up based on the fact that they did stink it up, not because they are mad that their favorite team let them down.

So were they right...no

They picked NE to win were they right...no

again just because you believe they should doesn't mean they are

like I said it is very hard to win in the NFL.

 

[dcfanatic]

How many teams can go 13-3, then repeat that the next year with the injuries like we had last year? I'm guessing very very few.

Playoffs, no playoffs, losing season, first pick in the draft.

That's my drift.

 

[peplaw06]

Compile the stats for yourself.

Asking others to do legwork is silly.

I don't think he really wants those stats. It's ridiculous. I mean we were the team of the 90s. I bet you we move up the list if anything.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I don't think he really wants those stats. It's ridiculous. I mean we were the team of the 90s. I bet you we move up the list if anything.

Ok here is what i got. I didnt Include playoffs because he didn’t.

20 Seasons
173 wins - 147 losses, average 8.65 wins vs 7.35 losses

First 10 Seasons
94 - 66

Last 10 Seasons
79 - 81

So the last 10 seasons we have averaged about 8-8. Somewhere in the middle of the pack. Wonder what the next 10 years will bring?

 

[jterrell]

Playoffs, no playoffs, losing season, first pick in the draft.

That's my drift.

My main argument with you here is ... HUH???

Because we fell from 13-3 to 9-7 we are now in free fall?

The Cowboys last 4 seasons is 9-7, 9-7, 13-3, then 9-7.
One strong season and 3 slightly above average ones.

Nothing to suggest a free fall though.

Let's look at a few media darling teams.
Pitt wins last 4 years. 11,8,10,12. So they have a SB but also a worse season than we have.

NE wins last 4. 11,16,12,10. So they have been a dominate double digit team. But they still have a variance of 6 wins in there. Losing brady cost them what 5 wins.. even tho Cassell is now viewed as a legit starting QB... something Brad Johnson is not.

Philly: 6,10,8,9. they have been worse than us actually except they won playoff games.

And going forward what did we lose this season from the player or coaching base?

We lost Canty, Tank, Partial Pacman, RW38 almost assuredly, Anthony Henry, Brad Johnson, Zach Thomas.

We gain Brooking, Kitna and draftees at this point.

BUT... we also get back healthy bodies like Felix Jones and Marion Barber.
We have growth of play from all the sophomores like Felix, Mike Jenkins, Orlando Scandrick.

I just don't see how the arrow is pointing down.

Last season we had three main detractors imho.

1) Team chemistry and failed expectations weighed on everyone.
2) Key guys got hurt and missed games or played hurt.
3) We had a bear of a schedule.

It is extremely rare to see the schedule result in playing virtually every second round playoff team.

It is also rare to lose not only your QB for a few weeks and then see him come back dealing with injuries but to also lose the starting RB and his backup.

Do I think we should be Super Bowl faves next year Heck No.
Do I think we should be able to win a playoff game next year? Heck Yes.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Then post the stats, so you can continue to pound your chest in victory.

Do you know how long that would take? 4 years isn't exactly a quick process to tally up. Contrary to popular belief, I do have a life that goes way beyond the Dallas Cowboys.

I have my gripes against Jerry as well, but I don't think he's the worst owner in the league or he's the worst GM in the league or he's one step away from being Al Davis. All of those claims are preposterous at this point and the win-loss records show that.

Like I said, there's a difference between being pessemistic and being illogical and irrational. It's sort of like listening to dolts like Rick Gosselin come up with absolutely asinine logic and then say 'IT'S NOT MY JOB TO ROOT FOR DALLAS!' No, part of your job is to come up with rational, logical and factual thoughts and your job isn't too say anything you can to criticize Dallas either.


YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Ok here is what i got. I didnt Include playoffs because he didn’t.

20 Seasons
173 wins - 147 losses, average 8.65 wins vs 7.35 losses

First 10 Seasons
94 - 66

Last 10 Seasons
79 - 81

So the last 10 seasons we have averaged about 8-8. Somewhere in the middle of the pack. Wonder what the next 10 years will bring?

That's good. Now, get the rest of the teams in the NFL records for the last 20 years. You cannot assume that it's 'middle of the pack' unless you see what the other teams' records were for the past 20 years.

See, takes a lot of time and it's cumbersome.




YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

1) Team chemistry and failed expectations weighed on everyone.
2) Key guys got hurt and missed games or played hurt.
3) We had a bear of a schedule.

I would add distractions as well. Things like 'Hard Knocks' and then the Owens fiasco.

I blame Jerry for Hard Knocks and I'm not really sure what anybody could've done to eliminate the distraction from the Owens fiasco. Some can say 'get rid of Owens', but Mr. Blue Suit would probably start some BS with some other player.



YAKUZA

 

[Everlastingxxx]

That's good. Now, get the rest of the teams in the NFL records for the last 20 years. You cannot assume that it's 'middle of the pack' unless you see what the other teams' records were for the past 20 years.

See, takes a lot of time and it's cumbersome.

YAKUZA

Haha, i know! Maybe ill do a team a day for the next month. Although i have a feeling someone somewhere has already done the leg work!

 

[rcaldw]

You all trying to counsel DCF to see the beauty that is Jerry Jones, is like trying to counsel the nation to see the beauty that is the spendulous package.

Heck, we're trying to fix it, our heart is in the right place, we have a lot of passion for what we are doing, and we love speaking to the audience, but stop asking if it makes any sense or if there are any results to back up the claim that he knows how to fix it.

The fact is, and yes it is a fact, that when Jerry has not had a strong and knowledgeable football person alongside him (Jimmy and Parcells), he and the team have gone backwards. That is just a fact. The only 2 seasons that were an exception to that were 1995 (still with the basic roster that Jimmy built), and 2007 (still with the basic roster that Parcells built).

All of this stuff about "the GM can only do so much" is legitimate when it comes to a small sample of seasons, but it is baloney when you haven't had a playoff win in 13 years. We have a L A R G E sample now, and Jerry doesn't know what he is doing.

Jimmy Johnson, interviewed by Dale Hansen, is positive toward Jerry as an owner, but he laughs at the idea of Jerry being in the middle of it.

But DCF needs to come to the light? Man, someone needs to turn the lights on.