Vikings refuse to release Adrian Peterson

[PJTHEDOORS]

Yeah but they were forced to pay him.

Well obviously. He's under contract, and Minny still wants him.

 

[Stash]

The problem with that logic is, once he has been reinstated, he has every right to work out at the Vikings head quarters. Once he makes a statement that public, they may be able to keep him from working out, thus there is no risk of injury which would guarantee his salary.

Another problem with your logic is, there is really nothing definitive to say Peterson doesn't want to play for the Vikings. I think first and foremost, Adrian Peterson wants to make $12.75 million next year, and his best chance at getting that is in Minnesota.

So you think that all of this back and forth between he and the Vikings has been for nothing? That the multiple meeting between him and management, and then ownership went well, and yet they've said nothing about those talks publicly? That he has no intentions of leaving and yet, somehow, they felt the need to tell his agent they won't trade him?

Now there's a flaw in logic.

 

[Fredd]

imagine me with my pointer fingers in my ears, my eyes closed and me saying really loudly BLAH,BLAH, BLAH, BLAH......

...until he isn't a Viking, he is a Viking....and, he isn't taking some miraculous pay cut to play for dallas....if he wanted to come for $5m $6m, I could see doing something...anything else is ridiculous and hurts the cap...and yeah, I know they can make a lot of cap room if need be....I would prefer to not make the room and not saddle the team with bad money later on (post Romo)

 

[joseephuss]

What are you talking about. The Vikings had 5 turnovers in the only championship game he played in (2009) and none of them were Peterson. Farve threw 2 picks and fumbled once, Percy Harvin Fumbled once, and Bernard Berrian lost a fumble. Peterson fumbled twice but both were recovered by the Vikings. In fact they scored on one drive after his fumble, and the other Brett Farve threw an interception in field goal range after they drove 45 yards.

All Peterson did that game was rush for 122 yards on 25 carries with 3 touchdowns and accounted for three of their four scores with zero turnovers. Yeah he fumbled that game away.

I don't really want to sign Peterson. But if you are going to try to discredit him to make yourself feel better about Murray, next time look at a box score and play-by-play and/or actually use facts.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300124018

I don't need a box score. I watched that game. He and his fumbles were a big part of the Vikes losing.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/9370/a-polar-performance-for-peterson

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-sending-favre-into-retirement-2-weeks-early

 

[Silver N Blue]

imagine me with my pointer fingers in my ears, my eyes closed and me saying really loudly BLAH,BLAH, BLAH, BLAH......

...until he isn't a Viking, he is a Viking....and, he isn't taking some miraculous pay cut to play for dallas....if he wanted to come for $5m $6m, I could see doing something...anything else is ridiculous and hurts the cap...and yeah, I know they can make a lot of cap room if need be....I would prefer to not make the room and not saddle the team with bad money later on (post Romo)

Yeah but some of us think he is coming here.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Both are amused.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

So you think that all of this back and forth between he and the Vikings has been for nothing? That the multiple meeting between him and management, and then ownership went well, and yet they've said nothing about those talks publicly? That he has no intentions of leaving and yet, somehow, they felt the need to tell his agent they won't trade him?

Now there's a flaw in logic.

In the end, despite how Peterson feels about playing for the Vikings, I can guarantee one thing, he'd rather make $12.75 million with the Vikings, then less any where else. And considering the Vikings have no where else to spend their savings from Peterson, what incentive is there to release him, when he makes them a better team and his presence makes Bridgewater better as well? Sure they would like to get him to agree to a pay cut (not happening) and I think they would like to trade him and receive something, but as I said prior to free agency when you were convinced he's be released by now, there is nothing to indicate he will be released and in the possibility that he is, it likely will not be soon.

 

[Nirvana]

he is in complete control imo.He can refuse to restructure his contract and the vikings are forced to trade him.he can refuse to restructure with the team which traded for him and they might back out of the trade.Basically he can force the vikings to cut him unless he is traded to a team which he likes.

I agree with this, but either the Vikings threw out a big bluff in saying they won't cut him, or they are willing to pay that contract. I think they'll end up cutting him if no trade gets worked out, but there is a possibility they'd pay that contract and force him to pay for them.

 

[Stash]

In the end, despite how Peterson feels about playing for the Vikings, I can guarantee one thing, he'd rather make $12.75 million with the Vikings, then less any where else.

If that is the case, why is Peterson openly mentioning his discomfort and 'uneasiness' about returning? If he would rather be there, why is he saying anything other than "I look forward to being back with the Vikings in 2015"?

Why do the GM and coach have to travel to Texas to meet with him for 4 hours? (and say nothing about how well the meeting went afterwards)

Why does Peterson travel via commercial airline to New York to meet with the owners if he wants to be there?

None of that adds up.

And considering the Vikings have no where else to spend their savings from Peterson, what incentive is there to release him, when he makes them a better team and his presence makes Bridgewater better as well? Sure they would like to get him to agree to a pay cut (not happening) and I think they would like to trade him and receive something, but as I said prior to free agency when you were convinced he's be released by now, there is nothing to indicate he will be released and in the possibility that he is, it likely will not be soon.

I think any team can find a way to spend the $13 million they wouldn't be paying Peterson, either now, or banking it for the future. I believe our own Cowboys carried several million over into this year. How good would it look for the Vikings to have an extra $15 million carried over for the future, when they might actually have a good team, needing a few additions in free agency?

It's about more than just spending it this year.

And how bad and embarrassing does it look for a team to have to try to force a player to play for them when he clearly doesn't want to be there? How desperate and pathetic does it make them look?

I saw this quote from Vikings' head coach Mike Zimmer:

"I would respect Adrian’s decision (if he didn't want to be here)," Zimmer said in a Pro Football Talk interview in January. "I’ll always be honest with him and up front, but I’m going to try to explain to him the reasons why I would like for him to be here. But it has to be a two-way street, and he has to get his life taken care of. But we’ll sit down and talk, and I’m a pretty good recruiter, too."

If he's a man of his word, how do your turn around and force him to stay when he clearly doesn't want to?

 

[RW31]

Translation: He's available via trade. Go get him, JJ.

 

[ilovejerry]

Not signing McClain Dallas Comp picks are piling up !!! Hmmmmmm Very intresting

 

[joseephuss]

I think any team can find a way to spend the $13 million they wouldn't be paying Peterson, either now, or banking it for the future. I believe our own Cowboys carried several million over into this year. How good would it look for the Vikings to have an extra $15 million carried over for the future, when they might actually have a good team, needing a few additions in free agency?

It's about more than just spending it this year.

I think the Vikes are focusing on 2016. That is when they will be in their new stadium and Bridgewater will be in his 3rd year as QB.

 

[Stash]

I think the Vikes are focusing on 2016. That is when they will be in their new stadium and Bridgewater will be in his 3rd year as QB.

I think they should be, and I don't see how Peterson fits into those plans, especially at his current rate.

Peterson's deal was a bad one well before his incident last year and everyone had expected the Vikings to approach him about a reduction or release at that time.

These semantics about 'wanting him back' and 'we're not releasing him' are nothing more than tactics to try to get another team to give them something for him.

And either someone will pony up something, or they'll wait the Vikings out, until the situation becomes unmanageable for them. And, as I see it, the situation is close to that point right now. Both sides have tried to be civil to this point, but I don't see things staying that way too much longer.

 

[mickswag]

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Both are amused.

Haha! My favorite show going right now.

 

[joseephuss]

I think they should be, and I don't see how Peterson fits into those plans, especially at his current rate.

Peterson's deal was a bad one well before his incident last year and everyone had expected the Vikings to approach him about a reduction or release at that time.

These semantics about 'wanting him back' and 'we're not releasing him' are nothing more than tactics to try to get another team to give them something for him.

And either someone will pony up something, or they'll wait the Vikings out, until the situation becomes unmanageable for them. And, as I see it, the situation is close to that point right now. Both sides have tried to be civil to this point, but I don't see things staying that way too much longer.

It may not stay civil, but the Vikes have no reason to rush. They can drag this out.

 

[Stash]

It may not stay civil, but the Vikes have no reason to rush. They can drag this out.

They can, but I think that if Peterson is willing to state publicly, on the record, and in no uncertain terms that "I do not wish to return to Minnesota", it would provide added incentive for the Vikings to speed up the process.

He needs to be willing to play 'the bad guy' in this story. From everything I've read, the Vikings are just doing everything they can to get the most out of a player and contract they don't truly want around.

 

[Stash]

Sounds to me like Peterson and Dogra are done talking when nobody on the other side seems to be listening. I expect things to get kicked up a notch.

 

[irishline]

I don't need a box score. I watched that game. He and his fumbles were a big part of the Vikes losing.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/9370/a-polar-performance-for-peterson

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-sending-favre-into-retirement-2-weeks-early

0 turnovers for him that game... he scored a rushing touchdown 2 plays after recovering his own fumble on 1. The pick up a first down after he fumbles on 2-3 then Brett Farve threw an interception in field goal range after driving 45 yards after the other.

You hate him, I get it. Because either your memory is horrible or you are lying because his fumbles did nothing to the outcome of the game. Farve's 3 turnovers caused him to retire. Re-watch that game, get your eyes checked, take a memory class. Whatever you want. Farve's turnovers in the were all on Farve. He doesn't throw that interception and they kick a field goal guess what... Vikings win 31-28 in regulation. End of story.

Since you want to post blog posts with people opinions about the game.... why not read a recap since clearly you don't remember what you see. Interesting title see no Mention of Peterson in it or sending Farve into retirement.

"Saints seal trip to Super Bowl after Favre throws late interception"
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=300124018http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=300124018

 

[mahoneybill]

Both are amused.

Great show... Floki is quite an interesting character..