Seven;2093131 said:Which plays and how many comebacks? If anyone wants to place the credit on anyone, it should be Fisher for pulling his hair out trying to figure ways to keep this kid out of trouble come game days.
SMCowboy;2093329 said:Try getting your facts straight. Here are some FACTS for you on the 2006 season.
The Titans were 0-3 with Kerry Collins starting. They were 8-5 with Vince Young Starting.
As for comebacks, here are a few:
Against the Giants on 11/26 - Down 21 in the 4th quarter, rallys to win 24-21.
Against the Colts on 12/3 - Down 14-0 in the first half, and down 14-10 at the start of the 4th quater, Titans rally to beat the Colts.
Against the Texans on 12/10 - Down 17-13 in the 4th quarter, rallyed to take the lead in the 4th quarter as well as scoring the winning TD himself.
Buffalo on 12/24 - Down 29-20 at the start of the 4th quater, rallied the team to win 30-29.
All of this for a rookie QB, that was viewed by my so called experts as unready to play as a rookie in the NFL....
Does Vince Young need to improve as a QB, absolutely. And the truth is no one knows if he will develop into even a decent NFL QB yet. BUT, with the WR's that the Titans have on their team, his stats will NOT impress. No one on the Titans roster last year at WR would have started for the Bears last year, and the Bears were not exactly the best WR corps in the league by any means.....
masomenos85;2093003 said:Aikman probably should have retired after two seasons too...
26 games
4328 yards (166 YPG)
55.1% completion
20 TDs
36 INTs
6.25 YPA
He should have quit before things got worse. Give Young a break, QB is a tough position to learn, even more so when you didn't play in a pro style offense in college. The guy doesn't really have anyone to throw to. Give him some more time.
Seven;2093334 said:What facts? I asked a question.
You're a giddy little fella aren't ya..............You havin' lunch with Lovie and discussing personell? Dork.
SMCowboy;2093480 said:I have no idea what you are talking about. But, I am FAR from sold on Vince Young as a QB. BUT, I am also not stupid enough to write him off and act like he is a guaranteed failure after just his second NFL season. Especially when he had a bad quad most of last year and has yet to have a WR on his team that is better than even Patrick Crayton (who most people on this forum view as a decent #3 WR at best).
TheCount;2093001 said:He contemplated retirement, then got his next check and decided he'd work through his problems.
HeavyHitta31;2093468 said:He was one of the greatest college quarterbacks ever, but so were Andre Ware and Ryan Leaf
The guy just doesnt seem to have what it takes to be a great NFL QB. We already knew he made Jessica Simpson look brilliant and couldnt throw very accuratly, and now it appears that he has lost the heart that he had at Texas.
ndanger;2093664 said:One of the greatest college quarterbacks ever? Ever? *** have you been smokin' dude? Ever? You kidding me? Ever? Vince Young, right ? Ever?
ndanger;2093664 said:One of the greatest college quarterbacks ever? Ever? *** have you been smokin' dude? Ever? You kidding me? Ever? Vince Young, right ? Ever?
ndanger;2093664 said:One of the greatest college quarterbacks ever? Ever? *** have you been smokin' dude? Ever? You kidding me? Ever? Vince Young, right ? Ever?
HeavyHitta31;2093673 said:As an Aggie fan, even I can admit he was a wonder to behold at Texas. He almost single-handidly took that team to a national title. He DID single-handidly win two straight Rose Bowls with two of the greatest single game performances ever seen in college football.
He was like the Michael Jordan of college football. He would just toy with you, then rip your heart out, step all over it and eat it for dinner.
Please, oh wise sage, elaborate. List me 5...Hell, list me 3 college quarterbacks that were so vastly superior to Young?
UVAwahoos;2093763 said:
This child isn't worth the time.
ndanger;2093775 said:Roger Staughback
Doug Flutie
Tommie Frazier
Jim McMahon
Ty detmer
Peyton Manning
Jim Plunkett
Sammy Baugh
Troy Aikman
John Elway
Charlie Ward
Danny Wuerfel
There are only 2 or 3 on that list that I would say Vince Young was better than.
Vince Young was a very good College Qb not best ever unless of course your from Texas, then heck yeah man greatest ever.
HeavyHitta31;2093807 said:Who?
One play does not a collegient career make. He may be the only player in history to win the Heisman solely because of one play.
Agreed, I'd put him right there with Young. Orchestrated the option to absolute perfection. NU ran for 500 YPG in 1995 with him.
Never won anything, most memorable moment was him curling up in the fetal position after having both shoulders dislocated by Quentin Coryatt in the '90 Holiday Bowl.
Could never win the big game at Tennessee
Decent argument can be made for him, but he never willed his team as Vince did
Was a better pro than collegient player, but he's up there
Very efficient, but hardly one of the greatest QBs ever
Very good, but never won the big game
Played HORRIBLY in the clutch and went to the NBA because of it
System QB who did his job well but was hardly great in his own right.
That's because you clearly don't watch much college football and are roughly 12 years old.
1: It's "you're"
2: I didnt go to Texas
The only guys on your list in Young's league are Plunkett, Baugh and Frazier. Not many guys have ever willed their team against all odds like he did.
He's not a good pro QB though and likely never will be.