Wade: Barber has a broken thumb, Ware stress fracture in foot

[Chocolate Lab]

To be fair, that was 9 days ago and MBIII probably should have been ordered to take an xray. I can't get on fans about this team and it's seemingly inept way it treats injuries.

What difference does it make, though? We haven't even had a game since then. It's not like he was out there in live action without a cast where he could've gotten hurt worse.

Not talking about you, Dakota, but some people act like Bill Belichick runs slides of his team's MRIs each week. Every team in the league tries to hide injuries as best they can, and they surely don't talk about them in the media any more than they have to.

 

[hendog]

this one falls on Juraszek

fire

Juraszek cause there some reason our guys are getting tired at the end of a game

I'm not sure about that statement. Parcells called Juraszek the best he's ever been around. Now is BP right about everything? No, but I venture to say he's worked with a ton of strength and conditioning coaches in his 300 yrs in the league.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

lol, we'll do our typical 9-7 or 8-8 and miss the playoffs while getting a mediocre draft pick.

I'd rather us just tank the season if this team and staff just half-*** it. Might as well get a high draft pick.

 

[utrunner07]

Um, no he couldn't. It's basically like shin splints. It's a hot spot that is painful, but that's it.

What do you think is going to happen if he plays on it? His foot will crack wide open? These are hairline fractures we're talking about.

Shine splints and stress fractures are the same thing?!?!?! Do you even know what you are talking about? Let me answer that, you do not. You may understand a stress fracture but you clearly miss the entire concept behind shin splints, actually I doubt you understand either. They involve two completely different processes. And yes, it is possible that by playing on a stress fracture it will go ahead and become a full out fracture.

Good lord man, before making yourself look ridiculous get your facts right.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

And people complain that they don't do enough tackling and full speed drills in practice. Think about how many injuries they would have if they did.

I prefer to think how much less they'd suck if they had full contact drills/practices.

 

[Rampage]

Such a waste. I don't even know why I waste my time with this bull**** team anymore.

We have the worst coaching staff and trainers in the league.

their's like a handful of things on this team that are fine. but than their's so many problems it just seems like it's never gonna end. like we'll never get back to the top of the mountain.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Shine splints and stress fractures are the same thing?!?!?! Do you even know what you are talking about? Let me answer that, you do not. They involve two completely different systems. And yes, it is possible that by playing on a stress fracture it will go ahead and become a full out fracture.

Good lord man, before making yourself look ridiculous get your facts right.

Obviously they aren't the same thing. They're similar.

So you think Ware's foot is going to split wide open? It's not possible to play on a hairline fracture in your foot? Just want to be clear here.

Good Lord. This thread was about two key players having injuries. Somehow it turns into a "coaches are incompetent" thread. Whatta shock.

 

[joseephuss]

Well Barber's just happened last game.

And even if they did know about Ware's, so what? There's no treatment other than rest anyway.

He could have rested through practices the last couple of weeks.

These are tough injuries to find. X-rays may not have shown anything until the swelling went down. You just don't know, but I don't give the medical staff a pass. Their record over the last few seasons has been poor. They can't keep people from getting injured, bu their job is to catch these injuries and help players overcome them. Their record shows that they do a poor job of diagnosis and rush the players back only to re-injure themselves.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Um, no he couldn't. It's basically like shin splints. It's a hot spot that is painful, but that's it.

What do you think is going to happen if he plays on it? His foot will crack wide open? These are hairline fractures we're talking about.

Shin splints are NOTHING like stress fractures in a foot. I've had them both and they are completely different. You could cause long term damage to your foot. Shin Splints will go away eventually and cause no damage.

 

[joseephuss]

I prefer to think how much less they'd suck if they had full contact drills/practices.

I was just kidding.

 

[Big Dakota]

What difference does it make, though? We haven't even had a game since then. It's not like he was out there in live action without a cast where he could've gotten hurt worse.

Not talking about you, Dakota, but some people act like Bill Belichick runs slides of his team's MRIs each week. Every team in the league tries to hide injuries as best they can, and they surely don't talk about them in the media any more than they have to.

I hear what you're saying, i'm just wondering if a cast may have sped the healing? They just give the impression, fair or not that they are somewhat inept. I know a lot of fans here at the zone feel that way.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Every team sustains key injuries throughout the season. The good teams work through their injuries. The bad ones don't.

 

[Shadowy329]

I disagree with this assassment.

I disagree as well ask anyone that does fighting training specially martial arts or most contact sports you toughen your body by abusing it to an extent

by running soft practices you run the risk of the body being out of fighting shape so to speak and it leaves you open to more minor things that your body wouldn't be open to if your doing hard practices off season and during the week

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Shin splints are NOTHING like stress fractures in a foot. I've had them both and they are completely different. You could cause long term damage to your foot. Shin Splints will go away eventually and cause no damage.

They're both overuse injuries, usually. They involve tiny fractures, usually hairline.

So you had to quit when you got your stress fracture in your foot? Are you saying the medical staff is wrong and he can't play on this at all?

And just to clarify, shin splints can come from soft tissue irritation, but they can lead to a stress fracture themselves. Or at least that's how my doctor explained it to me years ago when I got mine. Maybe you've gotten your medical degree since then.

 

[triplets92]

I had the same injury that WAre has now and I played the same position. now i know that bodies heal diffrently but it depends on what foot has the injury. if its his planting foot (the foot he uses to explode with) then he would experiance a sharp stinging pain whenever he explodes with it. the pain isn;t overwhelming but it is annoying and could get frustraing. it took me a good month to get over it and had to ice it every night. he should be fine

 

[utrunner07]

Obviously they aren't the same thing. They're similar.

So you think Ware's foot is going to split wide open? It's not possible to play on a hairline fracture in your foot? Just want to be clear here.

Uh, YOU said they were basically the same thing. No, they are not even similar. COMPLETELY 100% different. They usually both involve bone, that's where the similarities stop.

No, the foot won't split wide open, that is not what a fracture is and that is not what I said. It is very possible to play on a stress fracture and also possible for that stress fracture to completely fracture. You do realize there are multiple bones in your foot right? I don't know which bone the SF is in but the likelihood of the SF developing into a full blown fracture is directly related to its location.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

their's like a handful of things on this team that are fine. but than their's so many problems it just seems like it's never gonna end. like we'll never get back to the top of the mountain.

Well it's like treading water.

We have the kicking legs on this team(Witten,Ratliff,Scandrick,Austin) and the water(Jerry Jones,Wade Phillips,training staff,Ken Hamsucks) that keep holding us back.

We are always going to be treading water.

 

[dcfanatic]

Let me sum up, this team sucks, everything this team does sucks, every player on this team sucks, every coach sucks, and the media follows suit.

How does it taste?

:laugh2:

 

[ShiningStar]

How does it taste?

:laugh2:

that was my impression of you, just saving posters the time and giving them the short version.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

They're both overuse injuries, usually. They involve tiny fractures, usually hairline.

So you had to quit when you got your stress fracture in your foot? Are you saying the medical staff is wrong and he can't play on this at all?

And just to clarify, shin splints can come from soft tissue irritation, but they can lead to a stress fracture themselves. Or at least that's how my doctor explained it to me years ago when I got mine. Maybe you've gotten your medical degree since then.

Actually it was very painful and kept me from having my explosion on the basketball court. Now I understand why Ware has been sucking this year. He can't explode off the line like he used to. Maybe if our ******* training staff actually took X-rays when it happened they could have had Ware off his feet during the bye week and rest. Instead he practices and it irritates it more. Genius!!

I rested for about 2 weeks with no strain on my foot and healed up pretty fast with treatment.

And shin splints are alot easier to treat.