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Wade Phillips is not worried about his future and he's not thinking about his future as the Cowboys get ready for a stretch run with them in first place in the NFC East.

"I've thought about this game," Phillips said. "Like I've said before, that's up to someone else. That's not up to me. The part that's up to me that I can do something about is doing as well as I can, try to win as many games as I can. And we've won some games here. I don't know if people realize that but we've won quite a few games here and I hope to win some more. That's where we are."

Earlier Wednesday owner and general manager Jerry Jones hinted that Phillips' future would be helped by how the Cowboys finish, "what we do here and how we get into these playoffs and get in with an advantage, have a game here, get a bye, all of those are things that look good for Wade," Jones said.

But the two have not talked about the option year Jones holds as Phillips coaches the last five games under his original contract.

"I don't know what the determining factor is," Phillips said. "I've never known that. I didn't know it when I was at Buffalo and went 29-19 there in three years and that I was going to get fired. I thought I did a heckuva job. All I can do is try to do the best I can as a coach and I work hard at that. I don't think I get a lot of respect for that, but that's how it goes."

Phillips is 30-13 in the regular season as the Cowboys coach and 0-1 in the playoffs. He owns a 78-56 record overall in stops at Denver, Buffalo and interim jobs in New Orleans and Atlanta.

Why doesn't he think he gets the respect.

"I don't know," Phillips said. "I've won 75 games as a head coach so far in eight years. That's not bad compared to a lot of other people. Now I understand the playoffs and so forth. I understand all that. But I think - I think. It's my opinion - that winning breeds winning and if you're a winner you're going to come out fine whether it's the regular season or playoffs. Sooner or later if you learn how to coach and win games, then you're going to end up going well and I'm confident that we're going to do that."

We'll know in a month.

Transcript: Cowboys Coach Wade Phillips

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DECEMBER 2, 2009

Q. How much of your success last week was you guys and how much of it was that you were playing the Raiders?
A. We have had success before that. We had a couple of games that we didn't do quite as well, but you can say that about any team. I think it is more us than anything. We have worked hard at what we are doing. We have been one of the top offensive teams in the league. We have had a couple of games where we didn't score quite as many points but still moved the football.

Q. Is there something glaringly different with the Giants that you see compared to when you faced them earlier in the season?
A. Not much, they still have a real strong running game. Their quarterback is real good, excellent receivers, especially their young receivers. Defensively, they are third or fourth in the league, so it's not a whole lot of difference.

Q. What has the presence of Miles Austin meant to your offense?
A. Quite a bit. I don't know, he probably has the highest average in the league per catch. He has really come on to the scene. Once we started playing him he's really made a difference. He has a lot of touchdowns, a lot of yards receiving and he is a threat.

Q. He had some production last year and was quiet early this season and then really took off. What happened?
A. He was hurt early in the season and that stopped his progress a little bit. That was really the only thing that held him back this year. He was hurt early and we had an open competition for that receiver spot. Once he got well and had a chance to compete for it, he did great.

Q. What makes you confident that this December will be more successful than previous Decembers for the Cowboys?
A. Well, we are just playing one game at a time. The first 11 games make a difference, too, to where you are. Those games are important, it's not just one month. People can come up with all kinds of stats. I think the Cardinals lost three out of four last year and went to the Super Bowl and almost won the Super Bowl. So you can come up with all kinds of stats but all it is how you finish your record that season not only in December, only in November or only on Thursday nights. We can come up with all kind of baseball stats if we want to.

Q. How is the health of your team?
A. Pretty good, we have a couple starters out, but it's fairly good.
Witten and Romo were a little banged up going into the last game but they have made it through fine. I think they're healthy. We lost Colombo and Ken Hamlin, two starters, but the other guys have come out and played.

Q: Did you notice a difference in Felix Jones last week playing without the brace?
A: Yeah, I think a little bit. He's getting healthy. He and Barber have both been getting healthy, and we didn't have Felix last year at this time. I think that's a real plus for us this year because he was hurt at the end of last year. He is an explosive player and he can make big plays, he certainly did last week.

Q: There has been a lot of talk about Brandon Jacobs up here. I think he had his longest run of the year against you guys. What did you see from him in that game, and what have you seen of him lately?
A: Well, he's always been big and strong. He plays really hard and I have a great regard for him. He plays hard against us and everybody. I think the guy is a really good back, and he is tough to stop. Once he gets on a roll, he gets going downhill on you. He can give you a lot of problems, and I have great respect for Brandon Jacobs.

Q: Did you think he did that in Week 2 against you guys, as far as taking you downhill, wearing you down, and getting in a groove?
A: Well, he tries to do that every game, and they try to do that. He's a really strong runner, and I have great regard for him and he's a really good player.

Q: You think the Giants offensive line has given the kind of push this season it has in years past?
A: You know, they have lost some close games. We just study what they do and what they don't do. I'm not one to comment on what or how the Giants are doing. I'm just telling you what we see, and we see a good football team that is playing at home. This is a big division game for both of us.

Q: The Cowboys' pass rushers have come on quite a bit in the past month or so. What contributed to that in general?
A: In the first couple of games, we played teams like the Giants and Tampa, you know (Byron) Leftwich didn't get sacked by us or the Giants. I thought we had a good rush earlier in the year and we just kept coming. We had good pass rushers, and we have a good group. We were first last year in sacks, and third the year before so we have a pretty good rush.

Q: Chris Canty has only played in a few games this year. What do you see in him? Do you think he's back in his form?
A: Chris Canty was a really good football player, and one we hated to lose. We especially hate to lose him to the Giants. He's a real good player and we don't expect anything but good things from him because he's a good player.

Q: Have you guys figured out why Tony Romo and Roy Williams can't seem to connect?
A: Well, we had 494 yards of total offense last game and Tony had over 300 yards in quite a few games, and he's thrown touchdown passes in the last few games. I don't know if they're not connecting, but I think it will come along. We use a lot of different receivers, and if they take one away, Tony seems to hit the guy that's open and at the weakness of the defense. So, that's what we're trying to do.

Q: With Miles coming home this week, have you cautioned him at all to not try and do too much or get overly excited?
A: A little bit, but that's part of the game. I don't think you can control players completely, but they have to learn to do a bunch of things themselves. You can caution them about things and certainly work on things with them, but I think he'll be fine. I think he's excited about playing in front of his family and at home, and usually they play well in those situations.

Q: How has Doug Free done stepping in for Colombo?
A: Doug Free has done a good job. Both him and other guys have done a good job stepping in for us in place of good players for us. They weren't starters, but they have done a good job.
 

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cowboyjoe;3114195 said:
"I don't know if people realize that but we've won quite a few games here and I hope to win some more."


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"I don't know what the determining factor is," Phillips said. "I've never known that. I didn't know it when I was at Buffalo and went 29-19 there in three years and that I was going to get fired. I thought I did a heckuva job.

This is part of what drives me crazy about Wade.

I'm surprised he doesn't have his won-loss record tattooed all over himself. He reminded everyone over and over about going 13-3 in his first year in Dallas, and apparently is still carrying around his 29-19 card from Buffalo years ago.

Those records a good, but at some point, he needs to understand that what happens in late December and January matters. How you finish is more important than how you start.

I can tell by reading this that he still doesn't get it. He acts like he still doesn't know what else to do.

This is what he should have said:

"We may have won a lot of games here, but I understand that this franchise has higher goals that go beyond the regular season. It's up to us as coaches to make sure this team finishes strong and reaches the lofty goals that are expected for a franchise like this."


Quit telling us about how many games you won at Buffalo. Quit shrugging and acting like you're so mistreated.

Your team has tanked at the end of the last two seasons. January matters, Wade.
 

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Chief;3114220 said:
This is part of what drives me crazy about Wade.

I'm surprised he doesn't have his won-loss record tattooed all over himself. He reminded everyone over and over about going 13-3 in his first year in Dallas, and apparently is still carrying around his 29-19 card from Buffalo years ago.

Those records a good, but at some point, he needs to understand that what happens in late December and January matters. How you finish is more important than how you start.

I can tell by reading this that he still doesn't get it. He acts like he still doesn't know what else to do.

This is what he should have said:

"We may have won a lot of games here, but I understand that this franchise has higher goals that go beyond the regular season. It's up to us as coaches to make sure this team finishes strong and reaches the lofty goals that are expected for a franchise like this."


Quit telling us about how many games you won at Buffalo. Quit shrugging and acting like you're so mistreated.

Your team has tanked at the end of the last two seasons. January matters, Wade.

What else do you want him to say?
 

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Chief;3114220 said:
This is part of what drives me crazy about Wade.

I'm surprised he doesn't have his won-loss record tattooed all over himself. He reminded everyone over and over about going 13-3 in his first year in Dallas, and apparently is still carrying around his 29-19 card from Buffalo years ago.

Those records a good, but at some point, he needs to understand that what happens in late December and January matters. How you finish is more important than how you start.

I can tell by reading this that he still doesn't get it. He acts like he still doesn't know what else to do.

This is what he should have said:

"We may have won a lot of games here, but I understand that this franchise has higher goals that go beyond the regular season. It's up to us as coaches to make sure this team finishes strong and reaches the lofty goals that are expected for a franchise like this."


Quit telling us about how many games you won at Buffalo. Quit shrugging and acting like you're so mistreated.

Your team has tanked at the end of the last two seasons. January matters, Wade.

:hammer: BullsEye! We have a winner, this is what should be exactly shown to the players and wade and the coaches.

Quit living off of your past goals and awards, its all about what you do right now, and in the playoffs.

Are you saying Wade; golly gee, all i should have to do is have a winning record during the season, and that is good enough. So, in reality your saying I'm content with my 13-3 records and my records in buffalo and denver even though i never won any playoff games.

Then, thats why you lose wade, you should be alittle more fired up, intense, to win in the playoffs, and you should instill that in your players. Since, evidently you don't but you instill its just ok to get in the playoffs thats why you get beat by superior coaches in the playoffs wade. You didnt prepare hard enough.

Its your job to get the players ready for all phases wade, to realize what teams might try to do to your team in those playoff games.

Evidently by your playoff history you havent done that wade, think about that for a minute. Just like players say, after the preseason, the tempo of the game goes at a faster pace, then regular season, alittle faster, then playoffs even alittle faster and harder. You have to be just as ready as the players Wade, thats what you should see.

In other words have you turned over every stone wade and gotten your team prepared in every aspect of the game, offense, defense, special teams, media, and coaches?

Thats what you need to look at wade.
 

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cowboyjoe;3114271 said:
:hammer: BullsEye! We have a winner, this is what should be exactly shown to the players and wade and the coaches.

Quit living off of your past goals and awards, its all about what you do right now, and in the playoffs.

Are you saying Wade; golly gee, all i should have to do is have a winning record during the season, and that is good enough. So, in reality your saying I'm content with my 13-3 records and my records in buffalo and denver even though i never won any playoff games.

Then, thats why you lose wade, you should be alittle more fired up, intense, to win in the playoffs, and you should instill that in your players. Since, evidently you don't but you instill its just ok to get in the playoffs thats why you get beat by superior coaches in the playoffs wade. You didnt prepare hard enough.

Its your job to get the players ready for all phases wade, to realize what teams might try to do to your team in those playoff games.

Evidently by your playoff history you havent done that wade, think about that for a minute. Just like players say, after the preseason, the tempo of the game goes at a faster pace, then regular season, alittle faster, then playoffs even alittle faster and harder. You have to be just as ready as the players Wade, thats what you should see.

In other words have you turned over every stone wade and gotten your team prepared in every aspect of the game, offense, defense, special teams, media, and coaches?

Thats what you need to look at wade.

I take it that he means winning breeds winning and by doing that you will have success because you will give yourself the oppertunity. I think Wade want to win in post season as much if not more than anyone and to do that he has to produce a winning team that has a chance for success.
 

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Doomsday101;3114275 said:
I take it that he means winning breeds winning and by doing that you will have success because you will give yourself the oppertunity. I think Wade want to win in post season as much if not more than anyone and to do that he has to produce a winning team that has a chance for success.

I understand what your saying, but at same time, I think wade thinks you can keep winning and winning and eventually you will get there.

Most owners dont wait for you to get there for 4 to 8 years. You dont have that time anymore due to free agency, contracts etc.

As far as winning breeds success, that theory is thrown out the door because the Cowboys were winning in 2007 weren't they with a 13-3 season right ?

I think this boils down to some different things, like wade's thinking that you dont have to work out in pads at all in november and december. That the players are professionals and you treat them that way. That special teams were ok.

Those theories were thrown out the door werent they when wade finally woke up after what Jimmy Johnson, Terry Bradshaw, Howie Long all told him on Fox Sports your special teams are awful, your playing sloppy football, Whatever time your spending on special teams, you need to spend another hour on them and another 30 minutes on top of that on them. Then, wade had to fire his defensive coordinator after that year along with his special teams coach didnt he?

Yet, remember what wade said after the denver coaching job, he would never let another coach run the defense, because thats why he got fired, because defense playcalling was bad. But what did wade do in his year here,, he let a coach run the defense, something he said he would never do again.

Then, didnt jerry jones call in wade and didnt wade said it was basically one sided?;

Wade needs pushing sometimes, but a head coach shouldnt need pushing, the head coach should do the pushing.

So, to me, alot of problems have been on wade, when he finally admitted some changes needed to take place and it all started with him.

Eventually wade may see it, but if he keeps messing up and waiting to fix things, it might be too late.

I believe like chief said, it matters how you do and finish in december and january, quit complaining how you were treated. Your paid 3 million dollars to coach the cowboys, quit waiting for jerry jones to call you in and have you do something. Do your job Wade. No More Excuses!

If you dont like the complaining, then do something about it, win and instill that in the coaches and the players and have them get a very good game plan from you and your coaches.

Dont wait for the superbowl or playoffs, you attack wade, you dont wait for it to come to you. you go get it with an attitude.
 

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I understand what your saying, but at same time, I think wade thinks you can keep winning and winning and eventually you will get there.

Most owners dont wait for you to get there for 4 to 8 years. You dont have that time anymore due to free agency, contracts etc.

As far as winning breeds success, that theory is thrown out the door because the Cowboys were winning in 2007 weren't they with a 13-3 season right ?

I think this boils down to some different things, like wade's thinking that you dont have to work out in pads at all in november and december. That the players are professionals and you treat them that way. That special teams were ok.

Those theories were thrown out the door werent they when wade finally woke up after what Jimmy Johnson, Terry Bradshaw, Howie Long all told him on Fox Sports your special teams are awful, your playing sloppy football, Whatever time your spending on special teams, you need to spend another hour on them and another 30 minutes on top of that on them. Then, wade had to fire his defensive coordinator after that year along with his special teams coach didnt he?

Yet, remember what wade said after the denver coaching job, he would never let another coach run the defense, because thats why he got fired, because defense playcalling was bad. But what did wade do in his year here,, he let a coach run the defense, something he said he would never do again.

Then, didnt jerry jones call in wade and didnt wade said it was basically one sided?;

Wade needs pushing sometimes, but a head coach shouldnt need pushing, the head coach should do the pushing.

So, to me, alot of problems have been on wade, when he finally admitted some changes needed to take place and it all started with him.

Eventually wade may see it, but if he keeps messing up and waiting to fix things, it might be too late.

I believe like chief said, it matters how you do and finish in december and january, quit complaining how you were treated. Your paid 3 million dollars to coach the cowboys, quit waiting for jerry jones to call you in and have you do something. Do your job Wade. No More Excuses!

If you dont like the complaining, then do something about it, win and instill that in the coaches and the players and have them get a very good game plan from you and your coaches.

Dont wait for the superbowl or playoffs, you attack wade, you dont wait for it to come to you. you go get it with an attitude.

I think Wade has been in the business long enough to know how it works. He knows he can win I also think he knows without playoff success you will not be around long. He has been the coach for 3 years his teams have been 13-3, 9-7 and currently 8-3 and yes he must get this team over the hump. Believe it or not Wade is not a stupid man, stupid men do not last 40 years in this profession.
 

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Doomsday101;3114307 said:
I think Wade has been in the business long enough to know how it works. He knows he can win I also think he knows without playoff success you will not be around long. He has been the coach for 3 years his teams have been 13-3, 9-7 and currently 8-3 and yes he must get this team over the hump. Believe it or not Wade is not a stupid man, stupid men do not last 40 years in this profession.

I didnt say he was stupid, in other words, what i was pointing to was wade being hard headed, and to some degree soft hearted.

Hard headed in that he wouldnt listen to media telling him about camp cupcake, being too soft on the players in november and december by not working them. Then, keeping special teams coach, when wade had to put 4 extra coaches to help out special teams with bruce read. If that isnt being hard headed i dont know what is.

Soft hearted in believing all players should be treated as professionals and you dont have to work them. Keeping brian stewart around and bruce read when he shouldnt have, while at the same time, wade not emphasizing special teams enough. Now what does wade do with special teams, its the first part of practice. And you have seen the results with a very good special teams coach. I am not sure your aware or not, but special teams last year were a joke, even some of the players on special teams didnt want to play on special teams or just stood around for an hour, you were lucky if special teams were worked on at least once a week for an hour.
Yes, thats how bad it was.

that to me points to a head coach that refused to see things and finally had to do something to keep his job. Remember what wade said, some things have to change, and it starts with me as head coach.

Thats what im pointing to, if it took wade that long to realize things, what makes you think he doesnt realize things about the playoffs, like getting the team ready, preparing good game plans, not standing pat and saying, i have a good record during the season, eventually i will get there, so be patient.

Oh, by the way, everywhere i have been i have won games during the season, look at my record, but thing he still doesnt get,look at his record for the playoffs and how he had the team prepared.

I think he gets part of it now, because jerry jones called him in again during the season a few weeks ago like after the green bay game and had alittle talk with him.

Thats the point im trying to drive home. Now, I do want wade to succeed, and win some games in the playoffs, and realize what it actually takes to win ball games so he can get us there, but he cant keep waiting to get there, just depending on his won loss record during the year.
 

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Oh, the ghosts of Christmas past are frightening for sure...

Let's see, a team substituting a slicked up football, which under normal circumstances would be construed as cheating, caused a lapse in Tony Romo who if had only dived for the first down in a playoff closing victory chip shot field goal, would have ended all present speculation of inabilities of Wade Phillips.

Then you have an upstart Giant team that actually snuck the game away from a team that was not yet playoff hardened, the Cowboys. That team, the Giants incidentally, snuck their way all the way to beating the Patriots. Who thought that David would actually slay Goliath?

The Eagles for the past ten years, have gone year on and year off, all the way to the Super Bowl and then back. Yet they still haven't claimed the top prize even once...so, where is the true line?

Consistency during the regular season is a good place to look, as that both unifies the team as well as provides opportunity, the most important aspect at the regular season's end.

Now, correct my memory, if Tom Landry didn't approach the formalities of his own views in a very similar fashion as does Wade at present. Being courteous and a little humbling in approach was as previlent in Tom as it now is with Wade. Both coaches were successful during the regular season, generally. At Tom's conclusion, the Cowboys were defineably in array and lacking in ability to adapt with a then changing NFL. Wade is no where close to such a transition point.

The last group of fans that I saw as extreme oriented as many current Cowboy fans, was Houston. They railheaded both Bum Phillips and Earl Campbell and shipped them BOTH off to New Orleans. Go figure that current irony now.

It took a hurricane's devastating effects to bring out a deep seeded love of their team and serve as the real stimulus of their current rebound and ultimate success as a team. Dallas fans have lost the salt in their value as team supporters. The constant attack of playoffs or nothing, is such a level of non-support. It even substitutes the emotional and thought supportive elements to spontinaety in play...as well as a true homefield advantage. Maybe fans should take stock here, instead of comparing Wade to ghosts of Christmas past.

This team has less problems in their team, than do the other players in their own NFC East conference. The Giants are on a five game slide...that's FIVE. The Commanders had their own version of this weekend's all or nothing game, and lost to Dallas. Philadelphia is without their true play-maker on offense. Their defense has lost TWO of it's present starters in their secondary and the true life of that side of ball before the season even started....and he ended up in Denver. The team is on it's THIRD starting middle linebacker, and their top big play maker, Jackson, has had his first concussion. He went black light special on the carpet. This is baggage of their own, to try and manuever through over the same period of time, that Dallas only has to play up to it's level of abilities.

Maybe, if all this sophistication of perspective were diluted to the level of a real fan....well, the play of those on the field would more closely resemble memories of former times when the same fans attempt to root for a direct comparison, than for those on the field and responsible for leading them.

A 'caviar' mentality, does resolve around high price product, but it is very limited in application. Those allowed to wheel and deal on that level, deal in limited markets with high price associations and flow of product. This is football folks, and for this team to succeed, it needs real fans, who do not first pull out a chart off a googled expedition to see IF this team measures.

What, the simpleness of the sport is so easily lost?

Football is a simple sport that was developed for it's love and satisfaction of the sport...the playing of the game. While ultimate goals are admirable in principal, it's the application of the fan's part that is being lost here.

Maybe the why's of how Wade Phillips responds would NOT be lost nearly so quickly, if the love of the game were worn by the fan on his sleeve, instead of a price index supported by a five page statistical sheet alongside. Root for your team, and after the dust settles, then make a comparative restriction on your rooting....think?
 

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Oh, the ghosts of Christmas past are frightening for sure...


Now, correct my memory, if Tom Landry didn't approach the formalities of his own views in a very similar fashion as does Wade at present. Being courteous and a little humbling in approach was as previlent in Tom as it now is with Wade. Both coaches were successful during the regular season, generally. At Tom's conclusion, the Cowboys were defineably in array and lacking in ability to adapt with a then changing NFL. Wade is no where close to such a transition point.

The last group of fans that I saw as extreme oriented as many current Cowboy fans, was Houston. They railheaded both Bum Phillips and Earl Campbell and shipped them BOTH off to New Orleans. Go figure that current irony now.

Maybe the why's of how Wade Phillips responds would NOT be lost nearly so quickly, if the love of the game were worn by the fan on his sleeve, instead of a price index supported by a five page statistical sheet alongside. Root for your team, and after the dust settles, then make a comparative restriction on your rooting....think?

Dont even try to put wade in the category of a tom landry. No Way!

Landry would look at you with a certain look, called the stone look and you felt like crawling underneath the floor for making bad plays or missing assignments. Landy made all players run the Landry Mile. Even Landry ran the Landry mile and even beat Randy White at the bottom of the hill Randy White's rookie year.

When teams made mistakes, errors etc, Landry didnt give players the days off or the next day off like wade did after the Arizona game just because he thought they played hard. Horse Feathers, you as a head coach give the players the Monday off because you thought they played hard. Even all of the offensive linemen all except for Flozell Adams thought they played horribly.

You want the real reason why Wade gave them the day off, Wade looked bushed, tired and run down after that loss and wade had to regroup.

Did Jimmy Johnson ever give players days off after a loss or a bye weekend off on a big game like the playoff game against the Giants? No!

You need to go talk to Drew Pearson or Randy White about practices, when they messed up or thought they were too hard, Landry worked them even harder. Evidently you didnt listen to a podcast where Randy White said that very exact thing. Players had made him the moderator to go to Landry to tell him that his practices were too tough. White went to Landry, telling him so, Coach Landry then asked White if that was all, Randy said sure coach.

Next practice, Landry worked them even harder.

Landry has won more playoff games, and super bowls than Wade ever can dream of. Did Bum Philips ever win a super bowl? No! Then, there is your answer.

So, dont even try to put wade as a good coach like Landry.

Wade couldnt polish Landry's shoes as a head coach. What wade is is a very good defensive coordinator. He is still learning as a head coach, you would figure after 30 years coaching he would already know, but evidently not.

Did Landry ever keep an inept special teams coach like Bruce Read? Did Landry in practices in November and December ever not have the players wok in pads during the week for all of November and December like Wade did in 2007. This team got real soft late in November and December. That was all on Wade. No one else!

True, some of this lays at the door of Jerry Jones for his so called calling the shots on the final 53 man roster, and having some puppet coaches like Campo for head coaches etc and letting Larry Lacewell run the drafting departement. We are still suffering from that with the poor drafting till Parcells came in and fixed the drafting era.

One of wade's biggest problems is his soft approach to the game. When Terry Bradshaw, Howie Long, and Jimmy Johnson had to tell you that your special teams were horrible, along with a former scout of the Cowboys, that Wade asked advice on the Cowboys in 2008 what was wrong. One of the first things he told wade was, your special teams have been horrible ever since you were head coach in Buffalo. And those same people said, your playing sloppy sloppy football wade.

Its totally inept of a head coach to let players off the next day after a loss to the Cardinals, because, oh, i thought they played hard.

And what may i ask pray tell happened the next game after wade gave the players that monday off, they played another sloppy game against the rams. And what may i ask pray tell did wade say after the rams game. We got outcoached in offense, defense, special teams and coaching. Duh, sure didnt help when you let players have that Monday off after the cardinal loss.
 

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Phillips is happy, no excited about regular season victories..... Yeah!
Some one remind him the season CAN go past sixteen games.
 

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Dont even try to put wade in the category of a tom landry. No Way!

Landry would look at you with a certain look, called the stone look and you felt like crawling underneath the floor for making bad plays or missing assignments. Landy made all players run the Landry Mile. Even Landry ran the Landry mile and even beat Randy White at the bottom of the hill Randy White's rookie year.

When teams made mistakes, errors etc, Landry didnt give players the days off or the next day off like wade did after the Arizona game just because he thought they played hard. Horse Feathers, you as a head coach give the players the Monday off because you thought they played hard. Even all of the offensive linemen all except for Flozell Adams thought they played horribly.

You want the real reason why Wade gave them the day off, Wade looked bushed, tired and run down after that loss and wade had to regroup.

Did Jimmy Johnson ever give players days off after a loss or a bye weekend off on a big game like the playoff game against the Giants? No!

You need to go talk to Drew Pearson or Randy White about practices, when they messed up or thought they were too hard, Landry worked them even harder. Evidently you didnt listen to a podcast where Randy White said that very exact thing. Players had made him the moderator to go to Landry to tell him that his practices were too tough. White went to Landry, telling him so, Coach Landry then asked White if that was all, Randy said sure coach.

Next practice, Landry worked them even harder.

Landry has won more playoff games, and super bowls than Wade ever can dream of. Did Bum Philips ever win a super bowl? No! Then, there is your answer.

So, dont even try to put wade as a good coach like Landry.

Wade couldnt polish Landry's shoes as a head coach. What wade is is a very good defensive coordinator. He is still learning as a head coach, you would figure after 30 years coaching he would already know, but evidently not.

Did Landry ever keep an inept special teams coach like Bruce Read? Did Landry in practices in November and December ever not have the players wok in pads during the week for all of November and December like Wade did in 2007. This team got real soft late in November and December. That was all on Wade. No one else!

True, some of this lays at the door of Jerry Jones for his so called calling the shots on the final 53 man roster, and having some puppet coaches like Campo for head coaches etc and letting Larry Lacewell run the drafting departement. We are still suffering from that with the poor drafting till Parcells came in and fixed the drafting era.

One of wade's biggest problems is his soft approach to the game. When Terry Bradshaw, Howie Long, and Jimmy Johnson had to tell you that your special teams were horrible, along with a former scout of the Cowboys, that Wade asked advice on the Cowboys in 2008 what was wrong. One of the first things he told wade was, your special teams have been horrible ever since you were head coach in Buffalo. And those same people said, your playing sloppy sloppy football wade.

Its totally inept of a head coach to let players off the next day after a loss to the Cardinals, because, oh, i thought they played hard.

And what may i ask pray tell happened the next game after wade gave the players that monday off, they played another sloppy game against the rams. And what may i ask pray tell did wade say after the rams game. We got outcoached in offense, defense, special teams and coaching. Duh, sure didnt help when you let players have that Monday off after the cardinal loss.

Straining the gnats and swallowing the camel...

To the real issue here:

Wade's return in 2010 looking good if Cowboys make the playoffs

By CLARENCE E. HILL JR.

chill@star-telegram.com




ARLINGTON — Dallas Cowboys coach Wade Phillips is in the final year of his contract.

The club has an option to bring him back next year, if owner Jerry Jones desires.

So there is no doubt Phillips' future in Dallas is on the line as the Cowboys prepare for the final five games of the season.

Jones, who has been noncommittal on Phillips for much of the season, acknowledged as much on Wednesday at Cowboys Stadium, where the team practiced because of inclement weather.

Phillips has the Cowboys (8-3) atop the NFC East. He is 30-14 in three years in Dallas. But the Cowboys are 3-6 in December and January under Phillips.

Jones also offered up a scenario in which Phillips could possibly keep his job -- short of a Super Bowl berth.

"When you are in coaching there is a lot of pressure to win," Jones said. "That is there. What we do here? How we get into these playoffs? If we can get in with an advantage and if we can have a game, if we can get a bye. All of those are things that look good for Wade."

Clarence E. Hill Jr. 817-390-7760


Now, NO ONE...I repeat, NO ONE, will replicate the record of 19 consecutive seasons going into the playoffs...but you miss target again, it's the current season and support of which...not worshiping the past for an abstract and ultimate sense of top perspectives while losing the view of current struggles and rewards. Maybe you would like to address again, on basis of MY post, and the information on being solid in the regular season that gets you consistently INTO the playoffs...and yea, just LIKE Landry did.
 

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Chief;3114220 said:
This is part of what drives me crazy about Wade.

I'm surprised he doesn't have his won-loss record tattooed all over himself. He reminded everyone over and over about going 13-3 in his first year in Dallas, and apparently is still carrying around his 29-19 card from Buffalo years ago.

Those records a good, but at some point, he needs to understand that what happens in late December and January matters. How you finish is more important than how you start.

I can tell by reading this that he still doesn't get it. He acts like he still doesn't know what else to do.

This is what he should have said:

"We may have won a lot of games here, but I understand that this franchise has higher goals that go beyond the regular season. It's up to us as coaches to make sure this team finishes strong and reaches the lofty goals that are expected for a franchise like this."


Quit telling us about how many games you won at Buffalo. Quit shrugging and acting like you're so mistreated.

Your team has tanked at the end of the last two seasons. January matters, Wade.

My thoughts exactly Chief and it can't be said better than you said it. The more he defends himself the more turned off I get, because he acts like the 0-4 playoff record means nothing. When it has counted most, the playoffs, he has a .000 winning percentage.
 

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Oh, for sure....ring tappers unite. Let's NOT root unless a Lombardi is at stake, and then only begrudgingly. It matters not real records and having gone into two of the past three playoff seasons participating, while this one projects in similar fashion. Nope, no Landry comparison at all...only ghosts of Christmas past.
 

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CCBoy;3114547 said:
Oh, for sure....ring tappers unite. Let's NOT root unless a Lombardi is at stake, and then only begrudgingly. It matters not real records and having gone into two of the past three playoff seasons participating, while this one projects in similar fashion. Nope, no Landry comparison at all...only ghosts of Christmas past.

If Wade can get us a win or two in the playoffs this year, I will fully agree that he buys himself some more time, even though I despise his weak, laid back approach. But if he loses again, right off the bat, and is 0-5 in the playoffs, you and Wade can be happy buddies all you want, I would want him fired.
 

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CCBoy;3114421 said:
Oh, the ghosts of Christmas past are frightening for sure...

<snip>

Lots of good stuff in there. You should consider posting more.
 

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I cant stand Wade, but when you're on the losing end of the "Music City Miracle", you have to put an asterisk by that.(Even tho sitting Flutie still seemed stupid, it worked until that return)
 

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Chief;3114220 said:
This is part of what drives me crazy about Wade.

I'm surprised he doesn't have his won-loss record tattooed all over himself. He reminded everyone over and over about going 13-3 in his first year in Dallas, and apparently is still carrying around his 29-19 card from Buffalo years ago.

Those records a good, but at some point, he needs to understand that what happens in late December and January matters. How you finish is more important than how you start.

I can tell by reading this that he still doesn't get it. He acts like he still doesn't know what else to do.

This is what he should have said:

"We may have won a lot of games here, but I understand that this franchise has higher goals that go beyond the regular season. It's up to us as coaches to make sure this team finishes strong and reaches the lofty goals that are expected for a franchise like this."


Quit telling us about how many games you won at Buffalo. Quit shrugging and acting like you're so mistreated.

Your team has tanked at the end of the last two seasons. January matters, Wade.

Amen, brotha. Great coaches (or leaders in any arena) set the bar as high as possible, and accept nothing less from themselves, their assitants, or their players.
 

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rcaldw;3114556 said:
If Wade can get us a win or two in the playoffs this year, I will fully agree that he buys himself some more time, even though I despise his weak, laid back approach. But if he loses again, right off the bat, and is 0-5 in the playoffs, you and Wade can be happy buddies all you want, I would want him fired.

Now easy fella'...as no one was offering belly rubs. If that is a personal preference, it takes all kinds as fans. My contention is that as far as personalities go...both were defensive articulates that brought a lot to the table in that area. Tom Landry developed his offense around the talents that he possessed and developed techniques that could be used by them. The same with Wade Phillips...and there is the base of a similarity. Tom went through drought years, before arriving at a dominant and eventually championship team. There is no comparison here, due to Tom running out a string of nineteen consecutive years as head of the Cowboy franchise.

There are additional similarities, in that both accumulated long successes during the regular seasons, and this allowed entrance into the playoff arena. Injuries changed team direction last season, and it would take a Mac Truck with trailor to move this team off course at present...but I offered a look and see remedy. We'll reserve 'Jumpback Mountain' priviledges to another consideration...and state that at the point of it's applicability.

The time line of successes for this Dallas team is impressive despite all nay sayers and diminishing of achievements. The team is headed into December with a top division record and no worse than the top competitors going against it there. That is what it is also....I'll just await failure before I declare that fact, in a year by year professional sport. This is a new year...LOL. :star:
 

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Awakened;3114641 said:
Amen, brotha. Great coaches (or leaders in any arena) set the bar as high as possible, and accept nothing less from themselves, their assitants, or their players.

Thumper, but with similar demeaners of reserved and soft spoken...don't yet discount real accountability and direction in Wade Phillips due to HIS not having a similar length of time to prove his metal in Dallas. Wade has accomplished a strongly winning record together. Sometimes it takes as much support above a head coaching position as it does for him to function in that role. Here in Dallas, the entire system is a quality run organization, in such specialized areas as quality control and the scouting departments. Those are major tools at his disposal. This team is headed in the exact direction that they intended at the start of this season, but under the guidelines that are much more supportive and not a divergence from their more immediate past and failures. Be patient my friend, and enjoy the successes that this team experiences.

Tom Landry's legend isn't tarnished in this process!
 
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