Wade Will Be Back and Pasqualoni Is Back

[Draegerman]

You still haven't given a reason why Gruden is better.

Okay, well my first reason is that he continues to be a student of the game. NFL films did a special on him (highly recommended viewing, btw) after he was working for ESPN and he spoke on the the new wildcat offense and how he was learning all the intricacies behind it. Now, I could be wrong, but I just don't remember too many retired coaches showing that same type of enthusiasm once they were removed from the sidelines of the playing field. Granted, he's the color man for MNF and it would help his new job but this guy goes the extra mile.

Secondly, If Wade and Jimmy Johnson could have serious nasty sex and somehow through the miracle of science Wade gets pregnant (notice I didn't say JJ), their extremely ugly baby would be Jon Gruden.

I bore now. Time for more beer.

 

[windward]

Wade isn't a student of the game?

The man's defensive adjustnments are second to none. This doesn't occur by random chance.

I'm sure Wade has studied the Wildcat as much as Jon has.

 

[Draegerman]

Of course.

NFL teams win 70% of their games all the time with bad Head Coaches.

(yawn) You're going to live and die by that 70% number aren't you? I've stated it before and will gladly state it again, Wade was handed the keys to a Mercedes his first season here. And by the end of his 2nd year, it turned into a Yugo.

Now how does that 70% taste?

 

[Draegerman]

Oh yeah, he makes fiery speeches.


What were we thinking?

That's easy, you weren't.

So I'm glad to be a help here.

 

[windward]

(yawn) You're going to live and die by that 70% number aren't you? I've stated it before and will gladly state it again, Wade was handed the keys to a Mercedes his first season here. And by the end of his 2nd year, it turned into a Yugo.

Now how does that 70% taste?

2006 Cowboys 9-7 =Mercedes

2008 Cowboys 9-7= Yugo

Gotcha.

 

[windward]

That's easy, you weren't.

So I'm glad to be a help here.

You're not nearly as funny as you think you are.

 

[Draegerman]

Wade isn't a student of the game?

The man's defensive adjustnments are second to none. This doesn't occur by random chance.

I'm sure Wade has studied the Wildcat as much as Jon has.

I'm going to crack another rib here. Stop it, please!

Where in any of this did I say he was a bad DC?

And if his 70% was so great (since you keep alluding to it), then why was he fired twice as the head coach of other teams?

And oh yea, I'm sure he's a student of the game. You can just see it in his moon-faced eyes when he talks.

Gruden learned this formation because it's in his blood and he's driven to know. I don't recall him having a daddy in the big leagues giving him his first big break like Wade did.

 

[Draegerman]

You're not nearly as funny as you think you are.

Who are you kidding? I'm hysterical. Just ask my dog. :

 

[Draegerman]

2006 Cowboys 9-7 =Mercedes

2008 Cowboys 9-7= Yugo

Gotcha.

You're not fooling anyone with this crap. That 2006 team at least went to the playoffs, how did the 2008 team do?

And one more thing, that 2007 team that was gift-wrapped for Wade to coach failed miserably in the Division playoffs...when it should have won the Superbowl.

Do you deny this?

 

[windward]

So again how is Gruden being a student of the game rlevant to him being a good head coach but Wade's defensive adjusments (things that are done by you know, studying film) isn't?

Your logic is of the swiss cheese variety.

Also if Wade is so great, why was he fired? Seriously? You want to venture how Gruden is on MNF now?

Wade's tenure in Buffalo and Denver is irrelevant. What has happened in Dallas is the only thinbg that has mattered.

 

[windward]

You're not fooling anyone with this crap. That 2006 team at least went to the playoffs, how did the 2008 team do?

And one more thing, that 2007 team that was gift-wrapped for Wade to coach failed miserably in the Division playoffs...when it should have won the Superbowl.

Do you deny this?

I don't know if we "should have" won anything in 2007. That team did not match up well with the Patriots.

That 2006 team lost it's last 3 out of 4 just as the 2008 version did. The quality in the NFC in 2006 was poorer than 2008. You do a great job of ignoring context, though.

 

[chuffly]

I don't know if we "should have" won anything in 2007. That team did not match up well with the Patriots.

That 2006 team lost it's last 3 out of 4 just as the 2008 version did. The quality in the NFC in 2006 was poorer than 2008. You do a great job of ignoring context, though.

Not to mention, the Packers were no pushover that year. For some reason, I had a gut feeling we were going to lose to the Packers in the NFC championship game thanks to shaky defense that year. Then of course the team beat me to the punch by losing to the Giants. :

 

[Draegerman]

So again how is Gruden being a student of the game rlevant to him being a good head coach but Wade's defensive adjusments (things that are done by you know, studying film) isn't?

OH for gawd's sake! You just won't let me relax here and drink beer and watch football will you?

Fine!:bang2: :bang2:

It's "rlevant" because he didn't need to go that in-depth to do his job at ESPN. Do you think Wade would've been as studious if he had been given a job as the color man for ESPN? Unlikely and even more unlikely ESPN would even hire him. And yet, it didn't take long for ESPN to realize they had liquid gold here with Gruden - that's why he was immediately extended his first year working there. And please stop it with Wade's contributions as our DC. It's getting old very fast and it really is boring me.

Also if Wade is so great, why was he fired? Seriously? You want to venture how Gruden is on MNF now?

I can tell you're drinking more than me and I hate you for it. BTW, Gruden is doing great.

Your logic is of the swiss cheese variety.

Oh puh-lease (again), show me the holes in my logic, all-knowing one. And, btw, your pretzel logic is any better? Honestly, my dog does a better job arguing with me and she's German.

Wade's tenure in Buffalo and Denver is irrelevant. What has happened in Dallas is the only thinbg that has mattered

You mean like in none of it mattered when we (fans) suddenly realized our team was no longer in the playoffs or didn't make the playoffs his first two seasons as the head coach? Care to explain why his track record as the head coach of the other two teams were brought up here so often after those miserable failings? Oh wait, did you mean that JJ didn't consider Wade's tenure as head coach with the other two teams when he was hired?

Uh-huh

 

[Draegerman]

I don't know if we "should have" won anything in 2007. That team did not match up well with the Patriots.

That 2006 team lost it's last 3 out of 4 just as the 2008 version did. The quality in the NFC in 2006 was poorer than 2008. You do a great job of ignoring context, though.

Windward, I lack the brain cells currently to dig up your old posts from that pathetic 2007 season. So please don't force me to. Besides, I could just as easily say the midgets (you know, the team that beat us in the playoffs) lost to the Patriots as well in the regular season before they beat them in the Superbowl.

And I do not care if that 2006 team went only 8-8 in the regular season AND STILL made the playoffs. It continues to be at least one step further than the 2008 Wade-led team.

SHEESH!

 

[windward]

It's "rlevant" because he didn't need to go that in-depth to do his job at ESPN. Do you think Wade would've been as studious if he had been given a job as the color man for ESPN? Unlikely and even more unlikely ESPN would even hire him. And yet, it didn't take long for ESPN to realize they had liquid gold here with Gruden - that's why he was immediately extended his first year working there. And please stop it with Wade's contributions as our DC. It's getting old very fast and it really is boring me.

Oh No. I made a typo. It invalidates my point, I guess. What the hell does ESPN hiring Gruden have to dow ith him being a good coach?

Wade studies film. Gruden studies film. All coaches study film.

So what? How does that make somebody a good head coach? And if it makes Gruden a good head coach why doesn't it make Wade?

You mean like in none of it mattered when we (fans) suddenly realized our team was no longer in the playoffs or didn't make the playoffs his first two seasons as the head coach? Care to explain why his track record as the head coach of the other two teams were brought up here so often after those miserable failings? Oh wait, did you mean that JJ didn't consider Wade's tenure as head coach with the other two teams when he was hired?

Uh-huh

Wade needs to be evaluated on his body of work here. It's fine for speculation when we were hiring him and what not, but you don't seriously think Jerry's should fire him for going 7-9 in 1994 with the Broncos? Maybe the Chargers should fire Norv for that 4-12 mark back in 1994.

You still have not given a good reason why Jon would do a better job here.

 

[Draegerman]

Now that windward has killed my buzz, I'd like to point out to all of you just how much I want Wade to go out a champion. I think he deserves it and it would be a hell of an accomplishment. I desperately wanted the same thing for Landry when it was painfully obvious for him to go. It didn't work out for him but Wade still has a chance - and I pray that it happens.

But make no mistake, he is not a great head coach nor will he ever be. It's not intended to be a flame, I'm simply stating a fact. However, without a doubt, he is one of the greatest defensive minds in this league and should always be credited for it.

Why am I pointing all of this out to each of you when we're a mere 16 hours (give or take) away from kickoff? Simple, I don't wish to kick him when he's down. That's why I created another thread last week discussing it (also hours away from the game with the eaglets). It's too easy to kick a man when he's down and that I simply won't do - ever again.

 

[Draegerman]

You know..we could have cut three pages off this thread if someone would have simply stated this:

If 'ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, then everyone would have a Merry Christmas. Until then, it's a moot point. Gruden is not coming here nor does it look like he ever will.

How could I have argued against that? I can't because it's true and all I can do is lament the mistake Jerry made while wishing 'what ifs'.

I actually have more respect for people who can argue both sides of a point logically rather than those that illuminate ignorance - even to their own points that they're desperately clinging to.

That's all for tonight.