Wade Wilson and two Cowboys scouts sent to Manziel Pro Day

[egn22]

They did not do the same thing. Manziel destroyed his record despite playing one fewer game.

have you seen Cam's NFL statistics? ya know, the statistics that are superior to Peyton Manning's and again with significantly inferior talent.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

have you seen Cam's NFL statistics? ya know, the statistics that are superior to Peyton Manning's and again with significantly inferior talent.

Your point? Obviously Newton is a great qb. Not sure what that has to do with Manziel.

 

[egn22]

I'm just saying, Johnny won't be there at 16 so trading up would be necessary. if you were going to trade the farm to go after a QB, the year to do it was the year Cam came out. I would've given that years first, third and 6th and the following years first for Cam. This is before the Romo extension so we would've been able to trade Romo for a decent pick the following year and we'd be working with a QB that's superior to Johnny under a rookie contract so we'd be able to build around him.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I watched and he looked great but my concerns still remain. He is small fragile and is too quick to leave the pocket. That will get him killed in the NFL.

Like Russel Wilson? They are the same size.

 

[AsthmaField]

We're gonna get him!

 

[egn22]

Like Russel Wilson? They are the same size.

Russel Wilson was a 3rd round pick that happened to work out great. Johnny will be picked in the 1st. a lot more riding on that.

 

[bodi]

omg my worst night mare

 

[Sydla]

What stats are we looking at where Cam's are superior to Peyton Manning's?

 

[TheDude]

What stats are we looking at where Cam's are superior to Peyton Manning's?

Yds/rush and rushing Tds are my first guess

 

[JPostSam]

if dallas were to draft a qb this year -- and i doubt they will -- i would prefer it to be aaron murray. he has more experience and fewer flaws. plus, you expect him to sit for a year or two. in the third or fourth, it's a much lower risk.

 

[reddyuta]

We're gonna get him!

I think they are dead serious about Manziel but i dont think they will trade up for him.

 

[tm1119]

if dallas were to draft a qb this year -- and i doubt they will -- i would prefer it to be aaron murray. he has more experience and fewer flaws. plus, you expect him to sit for a year or two. in the third or fourth, it's a much lower risk.

Lol really? Aaron Murray has fewer flaws than Johnny Manziel?

 

[RastaRocket]

Cam Newton did the same thing Johhny did in a better conference and won a national championship. Had the size all teams look for in a QB but got considerably less media adoration. Hmmmm....

Cam is another media golden boy, don't act like they aren't obsessed with Cam.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

have you seen Cam's NFL statistics? ya know, the statistics that are superior to Peyton Manning's and again with significantly inferior talent.

Cam may be pretty good but let's not compare him to one of the best QB's of all time. If he ever stops putting himself over his team like manning does he could be "great". But until we stop seeing sad cam show up every time something doesn't go his way I'll take Manzel.
I swear I think cam my be bipolar or has some kind of mental illness. I live in the Charlotte area and I swear every time you see his press conference days after a loss it looks like he needs to be on suicide watch instead of moving to the next game.

 

[KB1122]

If true this confirms my suspension that many on these boards who were saying he had a weak arm have no idea what a strong arm looks like and was only saying that because he's a smaller QB......

I've never thought he had a weak arm and I'm surprised others have thought so. He doesn't have a cannon, but he has a good arm.

 

[KB1122]

Ya'll have been talking about trading the farm. What if you only need to trade, say, from No. 16 to No. 7?

 

[egn22]

What stats are we looking at where Cam's are superior to Peyton Manning's?

Cam Newton: The Best First Two Seasons Ever

This Sunday, Cam Newton will finish his second NFL season. As the final whistle blows in the Panthers' final 2012 contest against New Orleans, Newton will have finished the greatest first two seasons we've ever seen out of an NFL quarterback. And at least in the realm of the regular season, it isn't particularly close.

Newton enters Sunday with the following career statistics: 574-for-969 passing (59.2 percent), 7,672 yards, 40 touchdowns, 28 interceptions; 246 rushes for 1413 yards (5.7 per carry) and 22 more touchdowns. Newton's 8,584 net yards -- including 70 sacks taken for 501 lost yards -- the Panthers star has an exactly 800 yard lead on Peyton Manning's old 7,784 net yardage mark, the previous best for any quarterback in his first two seasons. Newton still has one game left.

Newton's 7.9 yards per attempt ranks fourth (Ben Roethlisberger, Dan Marino, Mark Rypien). His 62 total touchdowns ranks second (Marino). Newton's only major category away from the top: a 2.8 percent intereception rate, still 16th of the 78 quarterbacks since 1933 to start at least 20 games in their first two seasons. Only Andy Dalton attempted more passes than Newton of those above him on the list.

writers like NFL.com's Adam Schein calling Newton one of the NFL's "biggest scrooges," declaring he has to be saved and calling his 2012 season a "public regression" and a "black eye." Can this be anything but pandering to the fans who wish to believe the worst of Newton?

This group and the writers bending their words to please them should stop and take a look at what's happening on the field. Newton has performed to a level nobody could possibly expect out of a quarterback at his age and development point in his career. To see what Cam Newton has done in his first two seasons and call it anything other than fantastic is lunacy, or worse.

Nobody can be sure if Newton will ever win a championship -- likely the only thing he can do to truly silence his critics. Dan Marino, despite his apparent talent and incredible performance, fell short. But of one thing we should be sure: Cam Newton has already accomplished amazing things, and to expect anything less out of the rest of his career is simply wrong.

Jack Moore

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Very intrigued by this development.

I'm in the minority of supporting either Bridgewater or Manziell at 16.

Long term, if we could get a franchise QB we are better off than possibly picking a scheme specific player for a scheme that is certain to be replaced during the annual coaching sacrifice

You don't rebuild with Romo.

 

[egn22]

Ya'll have been talking about trading the farm. What if you only need to trade, say, from No. 16 to No. 7?

No thanks, I'd prefer to grab A bunch of dudes to fill out roster needs

 

[CowboyStar88]

No thanks, I'd prefer to grab A bunch of dudes to fill out roster needs

Or Cam...