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dooomsday;1617903 said:
The guy had HGH delivered to the Bear facility.

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dooomsday;1617903 said:
I know that. I know he bought them illegally. I know he bought them as part of a ring that included athletes who were taking them as performance enhancing drugs.

Wilson said in a statement released by the Cowboys that the "situation was the result of an uninformed decision that I made. I accept responsibility for my mistake. Clearly, as a coach and former player, I had no intention of trying to circumvent the boundaries of competition or fair play. I now realize that this is something I should not have done. I acted without proper medical supervision and I would urge others not to make a similar mistake."

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Wilson, a former Vikings quarterback, had "absolutely no intention of breaking any league rules."

"He has a long track record of quality service to the NFL and community service to the cities where he has played and coached," Jones said. "We recognize and support the importance placed on these matters by the National Football League."

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-spdrugs025356645sep02,0,2084613.story

Sorry. I know you're still trying to push your agenda but there is nothing to show he had any intentions to do anything other than what he said he was purchasing HGH for. When you are able to unearth those facts let me know.
 

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dooomsday;1617903 said:
The guy had HGH delivered to the Bear facility.

You know he had it delivered to the Bears facility? You're sure it wasn't his home?

Where did you find this interesting fact out at. Not saying it isn't true... just that I haven't read it.

Do you mind providing a link so that I can read it too?
 

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dooomsday;1617910 said:
LOL!


Oh do you? If you did in fact bother becoming informed you would know they didnt work for Wade.

Wilson said his intent was to help with his blood-sugar levels, among other symptoms, but that it wound up sending his blood sugars ''all over the map.''

All that for nothing. God bless him, I hope he is OK.
I know it didn't work. I read the article in the Daily Zone long before you posted this thread.
 

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dooomsday;1617910 said:
LOL!


Oh do you? If you did in fact bother becoming informed you would know they didnt work for Wade.

Wilson said his intent was to help with his blood-sugar levels, among other symptoms, but that it wound up sending his blood sugars ''all over the map.''

All that for nothing. God bless him, I hope he is OK.
Maybe he shouldn't use the internet for a doctor.
 

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So, now we know Wilson only used HGH for very short period and to improve his quality of life while he was just a coach, not a player who was seeking on-field advantage, why did Wilson get 5 game suspension and Rodney Harrison only got 4 game suspension? Doesn't make sense and doesn't seem fair, imo.

Also, that doctor who issued a prescription to Wilson without seeing him, shouldn't he be held accountable for issuing a prescription of a federally regulated substance without seeing the patient?
 

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I'm sorry but this is getting ridiculous!

He is not a player. It will not in any way increase his performance as a coach in the NFL. He was not distributing the substance to other players.

this isnt like gambling. or dog fighting etc.....

And he got more of a suspension then merriman ?

Good gawd.....

YES it's illegal. So is driving in a DWI state... so is speeding.... So is bouncing a check if you get really critical (grin) Heck I have taken anti-biotics given to me by a nurse friend ands THATS also illegal... But it was when I was sick to get well... Wade felt he was sick (I really believ his story)

He is no body builder etc.....

When it's an athlete they are enhancing their performance and creates an unfair advantage for athletes trying to compete on a even field! I agree! Not fair.... Kick their B U T T !!!

But this is a friggin coach!

Look if we were all honest here we have all broke the law... Drove too fast. Many at "some time" in their life drove impaired....

But a suspension this long for a coach using steroids or hgh is sorta silly to me... This isnt even like a player with 3 offenses in the NFL program...

This is NO BUSINESS of the NFL if he was not supplying players with this substance in my mind. YES he may have other legal problems!!! But this should not be under the NFL's rights to punish him.... This should of been his own legal problem. If he was not supplying players that participate on the field and didnt hurt ANYONE else............ I mean I am sorry and I am sure I will get slammed on here for saying this.

But there is a huge differance in my mind over a coach versus a player using steroids.... One changes the game... One does not.... Wilson didnt rape some some girl or embezzell money or cheat anyone, or lurk with gamblers.... but MAYBE (no one knows yet) hurt his own body.... trying to desperatly cure a disease he had fought all his life.

I mean crap if one of these 60 year old refs take this stuff trying to run down the field with reggie bush these days... (wink) It is wrong and I sorta understand as it impacts the game (in this case for the better probably not for the worse but actually would improve the game but)

THIS WAS A COACH standing on the sideline..... He didnt kill someone in a drive by or a DWI wreck.... He claims he was sick... This isnt some pumped up body builder..... He is very slender... Fighting a serious diease any way he can...

I am not saying he deseved no punishment at all. But more then Merriman got as a player is a joke. Merriman impacted the game and he got an unfair advantage from his drug use.....

Wade didn't and neither did the Cowboys. And he hurt no one but himself.....

Tex
 

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jimmy40;1617895 said:
All the more reason to ask the NFL about it first, surely they would have said yes and if they said no then he'd have to decide on being a coach or his health. Didn't I read that he quit taking them because it didn't work? Maybe he should have talked to more people about this first.

Yes sir. Someone who actually read the story before swearing to it! LOL!;)

He never said he was denied access. In fact he said the opposite. Its not a valid argument.

Wilson, who was hired by the Bears in 2004 and left under less-than-desirable circumstances in February, also said he never consulted the Bears' doctors or trainers about the substances.


 

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Tex;1617924 said:
I am not saying he deseved no punichment at all. But more then Merriman got as a player is a joke. Merriman impacted the game and he got an unfair advantage from his drug use.....

Wade didn't and neither did the Cowboys. And he hurt no one but himself.....

Tex

Nice post Tex. I agree. The fact that Wade got more than Merriman makes this an even greater joke...
 

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dooomsday;1617925 said:
also said he never consulted the Bears' doctors or trainers about the substances.



So? This just lends more credence to "personal embarrassment" based upon what we've already talked about.
 

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What is up with anyone associated with the Cowboys always getting some "extra" suspension?

Michael Irvin got his. Now a coach (for crying out loud) get's his.
 

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03EBZ06;1617923 said:
So, now we know Wilson only used HGH for very short period and to improve his quality of life while he was just a coach, not a player who was seeking on-field advantage, why did Wilson get 5 year suspension and Rodney Harrison only got 4 game suspension? Doesn't make sense and doesn't seem fair, imo.

Also, that doctor who issued a prescription to Wilson without seeing him, shouldn't he be held accountable for issuing a prescription of a federally regulated substance without seeing the patient?

Wilson got a 5 game suspension, not a 5 year suspension. Also, we don't know that he only used it for a short time personally - we know he CLAIMS that he only used it for a short time personally. We know the league can't test for HGH. We know Wade was working very closely with NFL players and works for the NFL himself. We know that the league doesn't want people asking the very obvious question about who Wade was getting the drug for. Because people have actually been known to lie about things like that. So the fact that he got the drug that's banned but can't be tested for, bought it illegally and then... well, we don't really know what happened then, only what Wade says. But in any event that looks bad for the league, which is why he got suspended. Had he sought legitimate medical treatment for his condition he would not have been suspended. Instead he broke the law, broke the rules of the league, and got caught. Nobody will ever be able to prove what he did with the drug after he received it, and frankly that's part of his problem. Because it casts doubt, and the league doesn't want it to appear that they are allowing anyone to cheat or circumvent the rules. They don't even want a HINT of that. So he received a harsh punishment.

As an aside, he would have had an extremely hard time getting a legitimate doctor to prescribe it for him, had he even tried. Because there is at least as much documentation claiming that it makes diabetes worse, or in fact causes diabetic symptoms, as there is to suggest that it will help OLDER diabetics - which is all the studies have shown, older diabetics with increased body fat have shown some improvement receiving hgh, probably because of the ensuing fat loss associated with it. There is, as far as I know, nothing to indicate that it would help someone like Wade Wilson. What he had to go by was the word of some fake online 'anti-aging clinic', which he chose to trust instead of a legitimate doctor. So if he was buying it for himself he was being very stupid and playing a very dangerous game. He should consider himself lucky at this point because he didn't damage his health.

Some links that Wade could surely have found with 5 minutes of searching, as I did:

http://www.thegrowthhormone.com/hgh-diabetes.html

http://ezinearticles.com/?Diabetes-HGH&id=311869

http://www.eternalhgh.com/hgh/sideeffects.html


One more point, the doctor was held accountable. I believe the doctors were caught first and used in the sting operation. One thing to realize is that it's possible that Wade didn't really think about the legality of getting such a prescription from a doctor who never saw him. Anyone who wants to order online drugs can do so by getting a 'prescription' online, which is technically illegal, but done every day by thousands of people. In his case it was incredibly risky, but the act of getting such a 'prescription' is common and probably not even considered in terms of legality by the people who do it. My wife ordered xanax online, I suppose her prescription was illegal as well. But there are thousands of sites offering such prescriptions to anyone who wants one.
 

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JDSmith;1617962 said:
Wilson got a 5 game suspension, not a 5 year suspension.
That's weird, I don't know I typed "year" rather than "games" :doh:

Maybe I need something to enhance my quality of typing. :D
 

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JDSmith;1617962 said:
My wife ordered xanax online, I suppose her prescription was illegal as well. But there are thousands of sites offering such prescriptions to anyone who wants one.

No excuse! (wink)

I am suspending your wife for 5 games......

Sorry

So you get to now see the first five Cowboy games in a sports bar without her!!! Gee..... I hope I did the right thing here...

LOL

Be sure and let me know if she does anything else illegal and I'll give her another 5 games....... (grin)

Tex
 
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