Wanna-Be Talent Evaluators

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not a hater at all, but I'll say this throw away stats and rankings...is Dak a SB winning type QB?

After what I've witnessed vs the 49ers it amazes how guys still act like Dak is that Dude. He's simply decent imo.

QB's dont win SB's, teams do. If you watched the niners game and blame the loss on Dak you dont understand football.

Do you realize that the niners went into GB the following week and shut down Rogers and the Packers? Educate yourself a little on the game. This isnt tough stuff.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Bruh you haven’t hit any nerve with me, I’m trying to help you. Unless you’re good with forever being part of that group with a certain label from this point forward.

As far as Dak is concerned I’m in the middle. If you go by last year alone, he was top 8 for the first part of the season. The. Die a couple games he was around 10-11. But the last six games or so, he was low tier 23-28. You can’t take away that last half of the season. You can’t take away the last game either. But, you can’t forget how good he was during the first 5-6 games.

The problem is this. Your side of the argument is just as bad as the other side. Somewhere in the middle is the correct way to look at Dak.

QB's dont go from top 7 to bottom 20's.

Its the players around them that affects their ability to do their job.

Just like Stafford didnt all of a sudden become a SB capable QB after 12 years. He just finally got on championship level team.

 

[plymkr]

If it wasn't for Jerry Dak wouldn't even be the QB . . . Jerry forced Him upon us in 2016 and Now Jerry has been jamming Him down our throats ever since to justify His idiotic Decision

Dak is the ultimate Bus Driver that they tried to transform into a gun slinger. . . . So He went from managing games to being the focal point . . . In doing so He rips apart bad teams and loses to good teams (Because of Offensive Coordinator and Talent around him)

Now this year The talent on Offense is a notch bellow across the board . . .

Now we shall truly be able to evaluate Dak

So yeah its Most defiantely Jerry and Dak is still a Fraud

Yeah I think I said this in another post. This year we'll know what we have in Dak. I agree he's a really good bus driver. The better the bus the better he looks. With an aging RB and rebuilding offensive line, Dak will be proven to be a top 10 QB or a fraud. We'll know a lot about him after this season.

 

[coult44]

QB's dont go from top 7 to bottom 20's.

Its the players around them that affects their ability to do their job.

Just like Stafford didnt all of a sudden become a SB capable QB after 12 years. He just finally got on championship level team.

He certainly did. The numbers don’t lie. Do you need me to post them?His numbers might be bottom 5 for the last several games of last season.

 

[Creeper]

When I saw the subject line the first thing that came to my mind was the Joneses. I was disappointed to find it was another Dak thread.

 

[Mr_437]

QB's dont win SB's, teams do. If you watched the niners game and blame the loss on Dak you dont understand football.

Do you realize that the niners went into GB the following week and shut down Rogers and the Packers? Educate yourself a little on the game. This isnt tough stuff.

See there you go attacking my intelligence, your emotional about Dak, and you want to lash out at anybody who doesn't see him like you do...that's called being small minded...the irony. Your an Apologists!!! You blame others for Dak's shortcomings, it's never his fault. Grow the **** up...oh and wipe your mouth!.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He certainly did. The numbers don’t lie. Do you need me to post them?His numbers might be bottom 5 for the last several games of last season.

His skills didnt change buddy. You dont become a bad QB all of a sudden. The Oline went in the toilet, the run game disappeared, which hurt his ability to do his job. Do you understand the difference?

Whats an easier first down to pick up for a QB?

3rd and 2 or 3rd and 18 because your Oline held once after your RB picked up 4 yards on 2 carries?

 

[CowboyRoy]

See there you go attacking my intelligence, your emotional about Dak, and you want to lash out at anybody who doesn't see him like you do...that's called being small minded...the irony. Your an Apologists!!! You blame others for Dak's shortcomings, it's never his fault. Grow the **** up...oh and wipe your mouth!.

Dak is not the issue, your football knowledge is.

Im not the one cursing out another poster. That would be you.

i don’t have to apologize for daks play. He ran the #1 and highest scoring offense in football. Facts are stubborn things.

 

[Mr_437]

QBs don't win SBs??? And you question someone's football knowledge. The only lie is you telling yourself it's never Dak's fault. He played like shyt the last month of the season and that Playoff game...those are facts.

 

[Mr_437]

Dak is not the issue, your football knowledge is.

Im not the one cursing out another poster. That would be you.
And
i don’t have to apologize for daks play. He ran the #1 and highest scoring offense in football. Facts are stubborn things.

Dak is not the issue, your football knowledge is.

Im not the one cursing out another poster. That would be you.

i don’t have to apologize for daks play. He ran the #1 and highest scoring offense in football. Facts are stubborn things.

Facts he ran the #1 offense, also facts he disappeared vs the 49ers.

I "cuss" so what? Go to church.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Facts he ran the #1 offense, also facts he disappeared vs the 49ers.

I "cuss" so what? Go to church.

Facts he ran the #1 offense, also facts he disappeared vs the 49ers.

I "cuss" so what? Go to church.

Actually he had 280 yards and 2 tds. Grossly outplaying his counterpart gorropolo.

He was the best player for the cowboys.

again….educate yourself. Facts are stubborn things.

 

[starfan1]

Actually he had 280 yards and 2 tds. Grossly outplaying his counterpart gorropolo.

He was the best player for the cowboys.

again….educate yourself. Facts are stubborn things.

I am a dak fan and he had a decent second half but he sucked balls the first. he did manage the clock poorly on the last drive.even though im not certain it would have mattered if there was time

 

[CowboyRoy]

I am a dak fan and he had a decent second half but he sucked balls the first. he did manage the clock poorly on the last drive.even though im not certain it would have mattered if there was time

Not much you can do when you rb averaged 2.6 ypc and your oline can’t block and commits 10 penalties.


SF is one of the best defenses in the NFL. Anyone expecting fireworks was a moron.


Some people understand football and some don’t.

 

[Mr_437]

Actually he had 280 yards and 2 tds. Grossly outplaying his counterpart gorropolo.

He was the best player for the cowboys.

again….educate yourself. Facts are stubborn things.

Educate yourself on empty stats. He was the best player for the 49ers.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Educate yourself on empty stats. He was the best player for the 49ers.

But you said he disappeared?

flip flopping now?

Actually Debo samuels was the best player for the niners. Educate yourself.

 

[starfan1]

Not much you can do when you rb averaged 2.6 ypc and your oline can’t block and commits 10 penalties.


SF is one of the best defenses in the NFL. Anyone expecting fireworks was a moron.


Some people understand football and some don’t.

I wont disagree with that. I was just responding in reference to your stats. they were actually
23/43 254 1 1
and most of that came from 5 minutes left in 2nd quarter. he did run for another TD and I guess if you add his rushing thats 280 maybe thats what you meant

 

[Typhus]

Because you might be one of those 3-4 of them haters?

ouuhhh, the haters running the 3-4 set, very innovative...

 

[CowboyRoy]

I wont disagree with that. I was just responding in reference to your stats. they were actually
23/43 254 1 1
and most of that came from 5 minutes left in 2nd quarter. he did run for another TD and I guess if you add his rushing thats 280 maybe thats what you meant

He had another 27 yards rushing and a rushing TD.

When you try to establish the hapless Zeke early in games and he cant do anything, this is when we fall behind. Then Dak has to play hero in the 2nd half.

The run game and the run defense lost this game for us. Oline and Zeke didnt even show up. Dak at least allowed us to stay close and gave us a fighting chance.

 

[tyke1doe]

There have been postings and comments from highly paid NFL personnel like former and current coaches, players, GMs, and scouts who've given Dak Prescott the respect he deserves. None of them said Dak is on Rodgers, Mahomes or Brady's level, but they've said Dak is a top 10 quarterback.

Dak's production according to NFL.COM's statistics/production has placed him in the top 10.

Im not going to point anybody out specifically, but they know who they are. Its a few here that have legit concerns about Dak moving forward with this team, then there's the handful of haters that downplay anything good Dak HAS done and place blame on Dak for things that isn't his fault.

There's this ONE question that I've noticed that never gets answered from the Dak haters and it actually makes them run, hide, and skip over the question. Here it is....

1. If the NFL professionals, from coaches to GMs, current and former players and scouts say that Dak is a very good quarterback and he's a top 10 quarterback and his PRODUCTION places him in the top 10.... and you (the hater) says Dak isn't good and he's top 10....

Are you (the hater) going on record to say that you know more about football and evaluating quarterback talent than ALL OF THOSE HIGHLY PAID NFL PERSONNEL that ive listed above that get paid millions to eat, sleep and breathe football for a living???

NO DAK HATER HAS EVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION!!!!

But why not????

I'm not a Dak hater, but I'll answer the question.
Actually, it's pretty easy.
The evaluation is given based on what is AVAILABLE at the time.

For example, if Dak were playing in a league that featured, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, John Elway, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees ... would he be considered top 10? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

Now, let's say he's playing in a league with Jameis Winston, Alex Smith, Kirk Cousins, Baker Mayfield, Vinny Testeverde, Trent Dilfer, Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Mitch Trubisky, Mac Jones ... would he be considered in the top 10? ABSOLUTELY YES!!!

What makes the difference? Simply put ... THE LEVEL OF QUARTERBACKS HE'S PLAYING AGAINST OR PLAYING WITH IN THE LEAGUE!

Currently, how many franchise quarterbacks are in the league? ... Rodgers, Brady, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Mahomes, Wilson, Herbert. That's eight. So, of course, Dak would be in the discussion as a top 10 quarterback.

But what does that REALLY tell us? Probably not much given the talent above him and the talent existing within the league.

The issue really shouldn't be whether Dak is a top 10 quarterback. But, rather, it should be is Dak a franchise quarterback - one you can entrust to lead your team deep into the playoffs and take the game on his shoulders and win the dang thang - and that on a consistent basis.

Teams aren't looking for top 10 quarterbacks, per say. They're looking for franchise quarterbacks.

Until they find them, your search at quarterback will always be never ending.

Ask Kirk Cousins.

 

[tyke1doe]

The QB play in the NFL is in the dark ages as it pertains to all around QB talent. QBs today are not as "smart" as they were an era ago. Back in the 90s there were a slew of excellent QBs, Aikman, Kelly, Marino, Young, Favre, Moon, Montana, Bledsoe, Elway. Then you had the likes of Everett, Cunningham, Kosar, DeBerg, Brunell, Hebert, Chandler, Neil O'Donnell. Saying a QB is top 10 after Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers really is not saying a lot, everyone from 4-32 are jockeying for position but really until one can show what they can do in the post season they will forever be on the outside looking in.

You said what I said but in fewer words.