Wanna-Be Talent Evaluators

GINeric

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Most of them just trying to make a buck. Anyway they can.


So the current players, coaches, GMs and scouts who are currently employed by their teams making millions are just trying to make a buck saying Dak is a very good top 10 quarterback???


Make that make sense my friend.....
 

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So the current players, coaches, GMs and scouts who are currently employed by their teams making millions are just trying to make a buck saying Dak is a very good top 10 quarterback???


Make that make sense my friend.....
And you have reading comprehension problems. That reply was specific to the quote in it.
Ay this point you just looking to argue and stir up trouble. Have a good day.
 

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There have been postings and comments from highly paid NFL personnel like former and current coaches, players, GMs, and scouts who've given Dak Prescott the respect he deserves. None of them said Dak is on Rodgers, Mahomes or Brady's level, but they've said Dak is a top 10 quarterback.

Dak's production according to NFL.COM's statistics/production has placed him in the top 10.

Im not going to point anybody out specifically, but they know who they are. Its a few here that have legit concerns about Dak moving forward with this team, then there's the handful of haters that downplay anything good Dak HAS done and place blame on Dak for things that isn't his fault.

There's this ONE question that I've noticed that never gets answered from the Dak haters and it actually makes them run, hide, and skip over the question. Here it is....

1. If the NFL professionals, from coaches to GMs, current and former players and scouts say that Dak is a very good quarterback and he's a top 10 quarterback and his PRODUCTION places him in the top 10.... and you (the hater) says Dak isn't good and he's top 10....

Are you (the hater) going on record to say that you know more about football and evaluating quarterback talent than ALL OF THOSE HIGHLY PAID NFL PERSONNEL that ive listed above that get paid millions to eat, sleep and breathe football for a living???

NO DAK HATER HAS EVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION!!!!

But why not????
no one in here is a good talent evaluator most want guy cut their rookie season going into yr 2 if they dont show Pro bowl productions LOL , all, opinion, hyperbole, and rhetoric. Most is parroting the masses.. Dak is great qb just not elite..
 

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By the way....i dont know crap about technical football. I can barely tell you what a 2 tech is. I freely admit it.

But not gonna let the likes of you tell me what to say and think.

Call me a hater.? Prove it. Show me hatin. You cant....but you sure do a lot of yappin.


Ok cool. You're not a hater.... but explain to me what makes your evaluation of NFL quarterback more credible than the players IN THE NFL that Dak plays against, the coaches IN THE NFL that game plan to play against Dak, and the GMs and scouts.

What makes you think that you know football and quarterbacking better than these people who are paid millions to eat, sleep, and breathe football daily???
 

GINeric

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And you have reading comprehension problems. That reply was specific to the quote in it.
Ay this point you just looking to argue and stir up trouble. Have a good day.

Im not looking to argue... ive had ONE person in this whole thread who honestly said that the don't know more about football than current and former players, coaches, GMs, and scouts.

That i can respect!!! Its the weak *** haters who actually got mad at that question, and you know why??? Because they know they look SUPER STUPID saying the total opposite of those current and former players, coaches, GMs, and scouts.

Ive never seen one simple question make so many angry!!! LOOOOOL!!!
 

GINeric

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By the way....i dont know crap about technical football. I can barely tell you what a 2 tech is. I freely admit it.

But not gonna let the likes of you tell me what to say and think.

Call me a hater.? Prove it. Show me hatin. You cant....but you sure do a lot of yappin.


For the record, Ive never tried to tell you what to say.... but how much sense does it make to disagree with players, coaches, GMs and scouts when you've just admitted you don't know crap about technical football????
 

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Ok cool. You're not a hater.... but explain to me what makes your evaluation of NFL quarterback more credible than the players IN THE NFL that Dak plays against, the coaches IN THE NFL that game plan to play against Dak, and the GMs and scouts.

What makes you think that you know football and quarterbacking better than these people who are paid millions to eat, sleep, and breathe football daily???
I have no opinion on my opinion being more or less accurate than anyone else's opinion.

My objection lays simply in creating these call out crusade threads that arent really "about football".

Ive contributed enough already....have a nice day.
 

SteveTheCowboy

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For the record, Ive never tried to tell you what to say.... but how much sense does it make to disagree with players, coaches, GMs and scouts when you've just admitted you don't know crap about technical football????
See my above response.
 

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I'm not a hater.
Although some here will call anyone who is, even slightly critical of Dak Prescott a "hater".
Whether a player is worthy of his contract is a wide open topic. There's more than hard cold numbers that makes a QB a QB.
So, are we to just listen to tv analyst and nod and agree?
Those who don't give Dak any credit will always be that way. On the other side, those who always defend Dak will always insist that he is top 10, as if that's the holy grail of being a NFL QB, and justifies his big contract.
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Maybe he's top 10, or maybe he's not, in today's NFL...I don't know...~shrug.
I just try to comment on what I observe on game day.
Thank God it's all for fun, because I couldn't make a living at it.
 

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There have been postings and comments from highly paid NFL personnel like former and current coaches, players, GMs, and scouts who've given Dak Prescott the respect he deserves. None of them said Dak is on Rodgers, Mahomes or Brady's level, but they've said Dak is a top 10 quarterback.

Dak's production according to NFL.COM's statistics/production has placed him in the top 10.

Im not going to point anybody out specifically, but they know who they are. Its a few here that have legit concerns about Dak moving forward with this team, then there's the handful of haters that downplay anything good Dak HAS done and place blame on Dak for things that isn't his fault.

There's this ONE question that I've noticed that never gets answered from the Dak haters and it actually makes them run, hide, and skip over the question. Here it is....

1. If the NFL professionals, from coaches to GMs, current and former players and scouts say that Dak is a very good quarterback and he's a top 10 quarterback and his PRODUCTION places him in the top 10.... and you (the hater) says Dak isn't good and he's top 10....

Are you (the hater) going on record to say that you know more about football and evaluating quarterback talent than ALL OF THOSE HIGHLY PAID NFL PERSONNEL that ive listed above that get paid millions to eat, sleep and breathe football for a living???

NO DAK HATER HAS EVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION!!!!

But why not????
Opinions are just opinions, neither right nor wrong.....unless you hold a differing opinion.

I do not have a problem with how anyone here feels about Booger, Porker, the QB, RB, HC or any coach or player because that is exactly what they are entitled to on an Opinion Forum.

Hate Prescott, love him, I do not care.
 

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Very nice write up but I'll have to disagree with you. Dak haters do NOT know more about professional football talent than all of the NFL personnel that I've mentioned above.

This is a "win" because even if we agree to disagree we have shared our views without insults.

For me, being labeled a "hater" is ridiculous. I don't hate the player or person. I did come to despise those who glossed over every fault and insulted anyone who said otherwise.

As for my ability to evaluate talent, I can only tell you that I'm pretty successful in identifying both individual talent and when teams will or won't be good. Often in direct contradiction of what the experts have to say.

Have a happy holiday weekend!!
 

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That's what I mean. He's not the type of QB to pull a rabbit out of his hat at the last moment, like a Favre, Elway, etc. Doesn't put the team on his shoulders despite a bad oline, bad defense, etcetera.

it's OK. A QB like him can win. He just needs to be in the right system.
Cant argue that.
 

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I like to evaluate talent, for fun, as sort of a free time hobby. And I think I do pretty good at it.

I rank Dak around 7-8, so yeah, he's definitely a top 10 QB.

I see him more as a bus driver type of QB, but he's the best bus driver in the league, most likely. And saying that isn't a dis on him.

Dak just plays within the team's system to win. He doesn't strap the team on his shoulders and win it all by himself like other QBs have done in the past. That's all I mean by that.

For Dak to truly be elite, he needs to beat teams with winning records. The great teams, like the Bucs and Bengals. We shall see.



Ironic. Because you sound bitter.
No QB wins all it by themselves. Rodgers may be the closest one to be able to do that, but even when he did win a Super Bowl, they had the top ranked defense and a strong run game. Even as great as Brady is, he needed help. He had very good to great defenses and great "teams", not always a lot of stars, but players that knew their roles and coaching staffs that knew how to attack a team's weaknesses and utilize the assets they did have. That's not to take anything away from Brady has accomplished and he certainly took advantage of the situations, but even he needed a team and a little luck on the way........ "tuck rule", Wilson's INT at the goal line, the Falcon's inexplicable decision to not try and run some clock.
 

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Of course you sense that, because you're one of those haters that can't answer the original question. You're doing what I said you Dak hatin cowards do....

Deflect, run, and hide from a simple question.....

:muttley::lmao2:

Do you really think with this behaviour of yours someone would be willing to answer one of your questions ?

I would suggest you work on your social graces if you are looking for someone who will spent his valuable time to answer your questions.

So if you still are interessted (under those conditions) i can answer you your question.
 
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blueblood70

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That's what I mean. He's not the type of QB to pull a rabbit out of his hat at the last moment, like a Favre, Elway, etc. Doesn't put the team on his shoulders despite a bad oline, bad defense, etcetera.

it's OK. A QB like him can win. He just needs to be in the right system.
NEVER he has chit ton of 4th qtr comebacks to win or tie a game, did it toe to toe with GB his rookie season but his defense kept easily giving the lead back until Rogers got it last..

how about last year in NE that not a GW OT pass to Lamb isnt a rabbit out of a hat, if not what is? he rolled out threw a perfect pass to win game.. how many times in the chargers game did he have to come back after Herbert scored and lead another drive and guess what won that game as well, cant Remember the year but he threw a GW winner on the back of the goal line i believe to Beasly and was pinkie away from doing it to dez, to win a game and those are JUST from memory.

sure hes not those guys but how many are that the point expecting him to be elite and when hes not call him a jag guys legit top 10 franshice NFL qb but please spare me the drivel on how he isn't capable.
 

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I'm not a hater at all, but I'll say this throw away stats and rankings...is Dak a SB winning type QB?

After what I've witnessed vs the 49ers it amazes how guys still act like Dak is that Dude. He's simply decent imo.
 

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Who did I call out??? I just asked a question. Are there rules about asking questions??? Im asking for a friend.... that truth hit them nerves hard huh.... LOL!!! Show me who i SPECIFICALLY called out and where in the rules it states that its against the rules to ask a simple question????

I'll wait....

Bruh you haven’t hit any nerve with me, I’m trying to help you. Unless you’re good with forever being part of that group with a certain label from this point forward.

As far as Dak is concerned I’m in the middle. If you go by last year alone, he was top 8 for the first part of the season. The. Die a couple games he was around 10-11. But the last six games or so, he was low tier 23-28. You can’t take away that last half of the season. You can’t take away the last game either. But, you can’t forget how good he was during the first 5-6 games.

The problem is this. Your side of the argument is just as bad as the other side. Somewhere in the middle is the correct way to look at Dak.
 

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I don't know about you, but I can't read minds... especially over the internet. So I asked...

Well all I can tell you are there at least 2 posters that have said multiple times that Dak is a bus driver. Clearly they dont understand the term.
 

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So you're going on record to say all the former and current players, coaches, GMs, and scouts ALL have lousy judgements because they said Dak is a very good top 10 quarterback???

Ok. So what do you make of NFL.COM having Dak in the top 10 according to the production of all quarterbacks added up by official NFL paid staticians????

The NFL statisticians aren't judging anything, their adding the production up from all quarterbacks who played during the season. So according to your logic, does this mean the statisticians have "lousy" mathematical skills??
I am going on record that anyone like you that worship the experts is an idiot.
 
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