Wanna-Be Talent Evaluators

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You're the biggest HATER here as you despise and attack anyone who doesn't agree with you concerning your man-crush Mr.Prescott.
Pucker up butter cup the world can't always be yours.....


So asking you and people who think like you the question.... do you believe you know more about professional football talent than current and former players, coaches, GMs, and scouts being a HATER and having a man crush???

You sound pretty dumb with that mindset kid!!

But i hit a nerve with you and your kind over that question and I notice how angry it makes yall because you all STILL haven't answered the question!!! You're running like cowards from honestly answering the question!!!

AND IT'S HILARIOUS AS HELL TO WATCH!!!

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Excuse # 6 ......Dak was injured.
It's getting old here with these excuses year in and year out.


So whats your excuse for looking stupid when NFL coaches, players, GMs and scouts say the opposite of Cowboys players than you do and you can't explain why??? LOOOOOL!!!!
 

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Why did all these experts pass on drafting a top 10 QB in the first three rounds of the draft? Especially the GM's and scouts? Where was that expert talent evaluation, then?


I dont know.... probably the same reason why they passed up on many great players for decades through the draft. Why was Dak the best quarterback in his draft class and he was drafted in the fourth round???

Oh wait... you never answered the original question.

Answering questions is hard for you.....
 

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This is funny, if it wasn’t so sad, you start out OP insulting and name calling , lashing out in anger now flip it and say it’s the haters. It’s really sad that you need talking heads to tell you what to believe because you don’t know yourself. You are really clueless when it comes to opinions, you know many here have very good ones and they are just as valid as anyone else’s and may be better than those experts like Jerry and son. You should learn to form your own opinions not let others form them for you it’s the sign of a weak mind.​


That's just the thing. I do form my own opinions....

But let me ask you this....

The people who said these things about Dak are former and CURRENT players, coaches, GMs, and scouts. So you consider these people who are paid to play, coach, scout, and evaluate, talking heads???

Please explain how current players and coaches are talking heads. These are the people who are paid millions to play against and coach against Dak and every other NFL player. How are they just talking heads and they're active participants.

Its really sad that you don't know the difference between media and actual NFL personnel who's currently involved in the game.
 

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You really think you started out respectfully ?
I cant believe you see it like that.

Your post was the quintessence of being unrespectful. And an example of prejustice. Thats why i posted my first answer like i did.
Well what should i do else ? I always approach hate and prejustice with humor that points out that a person who diminishes others is the one who actually is the main reason for the existing problem.

You talk about treating others respectfully. Then tell me your definition of respect. Mine is that you accept others (for example) opinions even if you dont understand them and have a different one. And still treat those persons like you want to be treated by others (Categorial Imperative!). Well labeling someone else with the tag "Hater" is only to diminish his arguments or opinion. Its one way to incapacitate the other person so you dont have to deal with theirs opinion and arguments.

No my dear friend. You werent respectful. You were just so sure that you were right and nobody could be able to prove you wrong. So you went to a place where other famous people before you went already: megalomania.


First of all, i want you to name who i was disrespectful to in my opening statement.

I'll wait....

But until then, please tell me what is disrespectful about asking people do they know more about football talent and quarterbacking in the NFL than current and former players, coaches, GMs, and scouts???

What is disrespectful about that???

I'll wait....
 

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You didnt answer the question.

We deserve a better front office. JJ has been in charge of the 28 year downfall... not Dak.


He and a few others NEVER answer legit questions. The just deflect or run and hide from the question. Those coward tendencies and tactics are hilarious to watch.
 

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I really wonder why you are called a hater when you won't put Dak among the top 5 QBs. Because that's the only thing, the so called haters won't do. Nobody says he's a bad QB. And most agree that he is above average. But I don't give a rat's *** about what the homers think, when Dak is not in my top 5.

Why even "call someone out"? The OP's the typical little fangirl without a life that gets mad when someone isn't sharing the love. Pathetic and this thread tells you more about him than anyone he wanted "to call out".

At least it's good for a laugh. :)


Im sorry you feel that way young lady. But all I did was asked a question. Im sorry you felt hurt by the question.

And about you saying, im "without a life"... i actually live a great life young lady. A life that i can't believe i was blessed with sometimes.... Beautiful family, construction on my third home almost complete, business is thriving.... and its FOOTBALL SEASON!!

What more can a man ask for!!! With that said i hope you have a beautiful weekend Miss and thank you for your weak, but sincere input!!
 

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Donavan took his team to multiple NFCCG as well as a Super Bowl Dak hasn’t sniffed either

Donovan also had better coaches like Reid and his staff. But im sure that probably doesn't matter....
 

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ON the contrary they are very similar. No doubt had Stafford been our QB and not had a playoff win in 12 seasons would you be calling him average. Take Dak and put him on The Rams and he wins multiple SB's. #1 defense, best coaching in the NFL, great ownership.



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Dak has been surrounded by some of the best offensive talent in the league and still has only mustered one playoff win.


Im glad you've brought up the ONE playoff win....

Dak only played 5 full seasons, correct?? Now you're absolutely right, Dak only won ONE playoff in his first 5 seasons....

Peyton Manning and Drew Brees only won ONE playoff game in their first 5 seasons, just like Dak, but Dak had better overall numbers than them both.

Matt Stafford didn't win ANY playoff games in that same time frame. Now I hear people say Dak is supposed to elevate the team around him, right??? I agree with that.

With that said, if Stafford was as good as so many here say, then why didn't he elevate the Lions??? He was a good quarterback with the Rams because the have arguably the best defensive lineman to have ever played, they have a great offense, but most of all, they have a great coaching staff. Any solid quarterbacks would have won the superbowl with the Rams last year.

But again, how long did Stafford play before he won a playoff game??? I don't wanna hear any excuses about who he had or didn't have on his team, if Dak is expected to elevate his team then Stafford should be held to the same standards.

Let me say that I hope and pray that Dak can mature into being the quarterbacks that Manning and Brees were, no doubt. But what's your take on Brees and Manning only "mustering" up only ONE playoff win in their first 5 complete seasons..... just like Dak???

I say this because you mentioned the ONE playoff win in Daks 5 complete seasons as if it was an indictment, so what do you feel about Manning and Brees only being able to "muster" ONE playoff win within the same time frame??
 

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There have been postings and comments from highly paid NFL personnel like former and current coaches, players, GMs, and scouts who've given Dak Prescott the respect he deserves. None of them said Dak is on Rodgers, Mahomes or Brady's level, but they've said Dak is a top 10 quarterback.

Dak's production according to NFL.COM's statistics/production has placed him in the top 10.

Im not going to point anybody out specifically, but they know who they are. Its a few here that have legit concerns about Dak moving forward with this team, then there's the handful of haters that downplay anything good Dak HAS done and place blame on Dak for things that isn't his fault.

There's this ONE question that I've noticed that never gets answered from the Dak haters and it actually makes them run, hide, and skip over the question. Here it is....

1. If the NFL professionals, from coaches to GMs, current and former players and scouts say that Dak is a very good quarterback and he's a top 10 quarterback and his PRODUCTION places him in the top 10.... and you (the hater) says Dak isn't good and he's top 10....

Are you (the hater) going on record to say that you know more about football and evaluating quarterback talent than ALL OF THOSE HIGHLY PAID NFL PERSONNEL that ive listed above that get paid millions to eat, sleep and breathe football for a living???

NO DAK HATER HAS EVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION!!!!

But why not????
So they all agree he isn't on mahomes, brady and Rodgers level but why is his pay on thier level? You do realize that by what these guys are saying it's just supporting the NFL which has put food on thier table for years. Most of them aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them. Dak is good enough for around that #10 ranking except when he plays a good team he plays like he is ranked #23rd. He is so inconsistent that his plays goes cold for quarters at a time. If he is that inconsistent against the better teams than how is he going to string together several playoff wins to get where this team needs to go. I'll tell you how. He isn't and they will never get there with him. The defense and running game might game him one more playoff win but Dak just doesn't have the talent to handle the pressure. Sure he might throttle some bad teams and look great. But that's about all your getting. The NFL is all about making money and Dak puts people in the stadium so why would they knock him. As fan I've been watching this game for 40+ years and I can tell you these so called experts DONT know everything and don't always tell you everything.
 

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Im glad you've brought up the ONE playoff win....

Dak only played 5 full seasons, correct?? Now you're absolutely right, Dak only won ONE playoff in his first 5 seasons....

Peyton Manning and Drew Brees only won ONE playoff game in their first 5 seasons, just like Dak, but Dak had better overall numbers than them both.

Matt Stafford didn't win ANY playoff games in that same time frame. Now I hear people say Dak is supposed to elevate the team around him, right??? I agree with that.

With that said, if Stafford was as good as so many here say, then why didn't he elevate the Lions??? He was a good quarterback with the Rams because the have arguably the best defensive lineman to have ever played, they have a great offense, but most of all, they have a great coaching staff. Any solid quarterbacks would have won the superbowl with the Rams last year.

But again, how long did Stafford play before he won a playoff game??? I don't wanna hear any excuses about who he had or didn't have on his team, if Dak is expected to elevate his team then Stafford should be held to the same standards.

Let me say that I hope and pray that Dak can mature into being the quarterbacks that Manning and Brees were, no doubt. But what's your take on Brees and Manning only "mustering" up only ONE playoff win in their first 5 complete seasons..... just like Dak???

I say this because you mentioned the ONE playoff win in Daks 5 complete seasons as if it was an indictment, so what do you feel about Manning and Brees only being able to "muster" ONE playoff win within the same time frame??
If Dak went to the Rams they don't win that SB. Stafford had to make some clutch throws under pressure against a good team.
 

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Many of you continually want Dak to elevate his play, but the rest of the team plays at their normal suckage. That is not how the game is played. They win and lose as a team. Dak and his teammates need to play better.

Aaron Rodgers, "the regular season Hercules" has come through once in the playoffs, but his teammates also played well. Home field advantage and best record, hasn't provided any trophies for the MVP lately.
 

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So they all agree he isn't on mahomes, brady and Rodgers level but why is his pay on thier level? You do realize that by what these guys are saying it's just supporting the NFL which has put food on thier table for years. Most of them aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them. Dak is good enough for around that #10 ranking except when he plays a good team he plays like he is ranked #23rd. He is so inconsistent that his plays goes cold for quarters at a time. If he is that inconsistent against the better teams than how is he going to string together several playoff wins to get where this team needs to go. I'll tell you how. He isn't and they will never get there with him. The defense and running game might game him one more playoff win but Dak just doesn't have the talent to handle the pressure. Sure he might throttle some bad teams and look great. But that's about all your getting. The NFL is all about making money and Dak puts people in the stadium so why would they knock him. As fan I've been watching this game for 40+ years and I can tell you these so called experts DONT know everything and don't always tell you everything.

Your post doesn't make sense. If they are lying about one, wouldn't they be lying about all? Surely your 40 years of expertise would tell you that. All of the ex-players, GM's, coaches, owners, etc. Are all lying for relevance, money and prestige.
 

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That's just the thing. I do form my own opinions....

But let me ask you this....

The people who said these things about Dak are former and CURRENT players, coaches, GMs, and scouts. So you consider these people who are paid to play, coach, scout, and evaluate, talking heads???

Please explain how current players and coaches are talking heads. These are the people who are paid millions to play against and coach against Dak and every other NFL player. How are they just talking heads and they're active participants.

Its really sad that you don't know the difference between media and actual NFL personnel who's currently involved in the game.
When was the last time you heard one of these “personnel” say something negative about any player? Those same folks make mistakes all the time, that’s why they get fired. Again so you understand Dak a good QB, 10 to 12 yes, at elite money you expect him to raise the level of play of the players around him not needing elite players to carry him. To this point it appears the people doubting Daks ability when it counts are correct and the personnel you speak so highly of are wrong. The script may change on Dak and he may surprise us but his best attribute seems to be talking a great game and underperforming in real games.
 

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Your post doesn't make sense. If they are lying about one, wouldn't they be lying about all? Surely your 40 years of expertise would tell you that. All of the ex-players, GM's, coaches, owners, etc. Are all lying for relevance, money and prestige.
So far I'm smarter than them. We will see! I hope Dak proves me wrong but sometimes you have to go with your instincts to smell a rat.
 

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When was the last time you heard one of these “personnel” say something negative about any player? Those same folks make mistakes all the time, that’s why they get fired. Again so you understand Dak a good QB, 10 to 12 yes, at elite money you expect him to raise the level of play of the players around him not needing elite players to carry him. To this point it appears the people doubting Daks ability when it counts are correct and the personnel you speak so highly of are wrong. The script may change on Dak and he may surprise us but his best attribute seems to be talking a great game and underperforming in real games.


Yes, Dak is a very good top 10 quarterback making elite money. Thats because of the way the pay structure is set up for quarterbacks.

Other than Tom Brady, what quarterback is REALLY worth the elite money they're getting paid???
 
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