Wanna-Be Talent Evaluators

[Haimerej]

His honor Blue has this habit of butting into posts responded to someone else and trash the poster for no reason , as if he is the vast ocean of knowledge of football. LOL

He has his reasons. Lol

 

[Brax]

he has not.....so let me ask, yet again, wins and losses are a QB stat or team stat? the flip flop is quite hard to keep up.

with that said, no one argues except a few who say he is top 5ish and a few who absoutley don't think he even belongs in the league (the extremes you know), but most agree he is top 10ish, good enough to win with, but needs help. second tier. whatever you want to call it. which means we need to have some support around him for the team to be successful. impossible? no, its been done, plenty of times. the big question is can Jerry build such a team? if not, even if we had an Elite QB, which are very hard to find would we still win with Jerry at the helm.

W/L is QB stat , a team stat and a HC stat. It does take a team effort but when like Jerry you put most of your resources in the O to the expense of the D you need a top 3-5 QB, to make up for it, Dak isn’t that guy. MM and JG are not that type coaches so the results have been not so good . The reality is Jerry is a poor GM who has fixated on doing it his way so he gets the credit. As for the W/L many of the must win games Dak was miserable in most of the games. That is on the QB. QB draw to be the hero, that’s Dak and that’s on him.

 

[GINeric]

And how many CCG let alone SBs has Dak even played in? Don’t spin from Dak I’ll look at the stats when I see him produce when it counts. Until then stats mean crap.

Dak has played, 5 full seasons of NFL football, won ONE playoff game, and haven't played in any CCGs or Superbowls. But watch this tho....

Drew Brees and Peyton Manning were outstanding quarterbacks, correct??? Well explain to me why they've won the same amount of playoff games (ONE) and played in the same amount of CCG and Superbowls as Dak in THEIR first 5 years??? Stafford had zero playoff wins in his first 5 years.

Did you say the same thing about THOSE quarterbacks who had the same results as Dak at the same time frame of their careers as Dak is currently???

DON'T PUT A SPIN ON IT!!!

Oh yeah..... Trent Dilpher and Nick Foles have won more CCG and Superbowls than Warren Moon, Dan Marino and a few other HOF quarterbacks. Dilpher and Foles have the same amount of Superbowl wins as Aaron Rodgers.....

So what should i make of this true fact or take away from it.... what does that mean??

 

[GINeric]

1 playoff win with good teams in 6 season is self explanatory.

Dak played 5 full seasons. He only had one playoff win.

In Manning and Brees first 5 seasons they had one playoff win also.

Maybe there are 53 men on a team getting paid because all of them have a job to do, not just the quarterback.

Oh yeah, name one coaching staff that Dak had the privilege to play under like the top quarterbacks in the league have....

I'll wait...

 

[GINeric]

Take out the NFC East wins and he's a .500 QB with 1 playoff win.
Enough already.....if it walks like a Rat, smells like a Rat, looks like a Rat, it's a RAT!!!

Brady is the GOAT!!! But Brady played in the AFCE the weakest division in football for 20 years with a HOF coach. What HOF coach has Dak ever been lead by??

Oh yeah, good luck to your Eagles this year.... they look tough.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Brady is the GOAT!!! But Brady played in the AFCE the weakest division in football for 20 years with a HOF coach. What HOF coach has Dak ever been lead by??

Oh yeah, good luck to your Eagles this year.... they look tough.

Ya Dak and Tom Brady playing in dog divisions hmmmm ok bud post a picture of Dak's rings.....I'll wait.....and wait and wait and wait...still waiting....

P.S. Below for your reference.....

 

[Starforever]

Take out the NFC East wins and he's a .500 QB with 1 playoff win.
Enough already.....if it walks like a Rat, smells like a Rat, looks like a Rat, it's a RAT!!!

Then take out all of Brady's AFC East wins. Stop making dumb points. If your opinion is that you don't like Dak, just stay with that.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Then take out all of Brady's AFC East wins. Stop making dumb points. If your opinion is that you don't like Dak, just stay with that.

 

[Starforever]

That does not change the point at all. You and a few others make dumb statements, but have no idea of what you are arguing. That picture can be posted against every QB in NFL history, but it doesn't win all discussions.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Aww damn I missed a doozy of a Dak thread.

This was not a Dak thread. It was a "I know more than everyone else you are stupid" thread.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dak is paid top 9 money. is he top 9-10 or not?

You have to wait a few years for the new contracts to come in to make this kind of point.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Now, now. I know that Dak keeps saying the right things and "experts" put him in the top 10.
But, deep down, you know your beloved QB has taken this team to ONE playoff victory in 6 years.
Think about it, chap.
ONE career playoff win.
One.
There is your vaunted QB!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Stealing my material.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

So despite the defense playing poorly, did he put the team on his shoulders and win it anyway (that's what I mean by that)?

Next.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ya Dak and Tom Brady playing in dog divisions hmmmm ok bud post a picture of Dak's rings.....I'll wait.....and wait and wait and wait...still waiting....

P.S. Below for your reference.....

so you are b!tching and moaning because Dak isn't Brady!!!

really....that's your complaint?

TMZ like I said. Amateur TMZ at that

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

He has carried the team at times. Last year at New England is a good example. The D kept giving up big plays and Dak kept moving the team and scoring. He won that game.

Oh, I get it!

When the Cowboys lose it is a team loss. When the boys win Dak wins it.
Marvelous logic.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Now, now. I know that Dak keeps saying the right things and "experts" put him in the top 10.
But, deep down, you know your beloved QB has taken this team to ONE playoff victory in 6 years.
Think about it, chap.
ONE career playoff win.
One.
There is your vaunted QB!

Brees had one win in his first 5 years. Manning had one. so....not sure what to make of your line of argument....it failed.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That does not change the point at all. You and a few others make dumb statements, but have no idea of what you are arguing. That picture can be posted against every QB in NFL history, but it doesn't win all discussions.

oh, he has no point. he just wants to hate on Dak. of all the Dak detractors, he really hates dak on a personal level. just mention how much money Dak makes and he will blow his top. He attacked Dak's character for some reason in another rant.

he is TMZ of this board.....no one takes him seriously. just have fun with him.

 

[GINeric]

Now, now. I know that Dak keeps saying the right things and "experts" put him in the top 10.
But, deep down, you know your beloved QB has taken this team to ONE playoff victory in 6 years.
Think about it, chap.
ONE career playoff win.
One.
There is your vaunted QB!

And you're absolutely right!!! He has to do better to change that.

Now Dak has played 5 full seasons of NFL football and has ONE playoff win correct??

Well Drew Brees and Peyton Manning have only won ONE playoff game in their first 5 full season JUST LIKE DAK!!! Matt Stafford had ZERO playoff games in his first 5 full seasons....

Were those quarterbacks "vaunted" after their first 5 seasons with ONE playoff win as well??? Care to explain THAT Chap????

 

[GINeric]

Ya Dak and Tom Brady playing in dog divisions hmmmm ok bud post a picture of Dak's rings.....I'll wait.....and wait and wait and wait...still waiting....

P.S. Below for your reference.....

I will as soon as you post a pic of Dak with equivalent coaching as the top 5 quarterbacks in the league....

I'll wait, wait, wait some more, and wait again.....