Warner Breakdown of Dak vs Houston

[cnuball21]

And then Schultz gets blamed for inability to "separate" from coverage

I don’t think anyone is knocking Schultz in ability to separate.

His issue is dropping 2 TDs in the last serval weeks in big moments.

 

[CowboyoWales]

NO I pointed out there are reasons when Daks struggling, not him being reckless umm OK!

wales on the zone,

No need to struggle with the passing game, just do what we do best.

 

[blueblood70]

No need to struggle with the passing game, just do what we do best.

sorry but having the same gameplan for every team week in and week out, like hey run it 40 times and we win is a ridiculous expectation. we can and will pass, just have to clean it up a bit. if you become one handed teams can take that away.

 

[erod]

I don't know how anyone who understands football or claims to can watch the ALL 22 and see how poor the playcalls are at times. Not all the time but there are times where there's absolutely no one open. I know a lot of y'all are Eagles fans have you guys not wondered how Devonta and AJ Brown are running wide open most of the game? Or do the Eagles just have special powers?

Eagles receivers are not running wide open all game. And Cowboys receivers are wide open on several plays during a game, too.

You have to watch the WHOLE game. Defensive coordinators do guess and scheme right, too, during the game.

The QUARTERBACK chooses what to do with the ball ultimately. Not the OC.

 

[CowboyoWales]

sorry but having the same gameplan for every team week in and week out, like hey run it 40 times and we win is a ridiculous expectation. we can and will pass, just have to clean it up a bit. if you become one handed teams can take that away.

But if our O-Line is, as you say, "bottom 5 Pass win rate". and as you say "KM has issues either with design or how the Wrs are running routes IE one of the worst separation groups in the nfl,", then surely we take the ball out of Dak's hand (not that we're blaming him of course) and increase the number of run plays and laterals.

 

[cnuball21]

But if our O-Line is, as you say, "bottom 5 Pass win rate". and as you say "KM has issues either with design or how the Wrs are running routes IE one of the worst separation groups in the nfl,", then surely we take the ball out of Dak's hand (not that we're blaming him of course) and increase the number of run plays and laterals.

100%. Running the ball effectively minimizes those weaknesses.

Unfortunately in the playoffs you need to be balanced and effective in both the run and the pass.

 

[bigE79]

Interesting breakdown by Kurt Warner of Dak's play vs Houston.

Dak is and what he will always be,not great,not terrible just average,most times,he's really good against bad teams and below average against good teams and it really shows in Warner's breakdown that dak cannot really read a defense most of the time, missing all those open receivers is inexcusable for a 7 year starting QB.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Eagles receivers are not running wide open all game. And Cowboys receivers are wide open on several plays during a game, too.

You have to watch the WHOLE game. Defensive coordinators do guess and scheme right, too, during the game.

The QUARTERBACK chooses what to do with the ball ultimately. Not the OC.

I watch full games and good offenses play in space. It seems like more times then not Cowboys receivers are right next to each other at all times. It’s been proven Dak seems to be the most accurate when on the run. My issue with Kellen is he doesn’t play to this trans strengths. And while Pollard has been great there’s another level he can go that Moore can’t seem to take him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak is and what he will always be,not great,not terrible just average,most times,he's really good against bad teams and below average against good teams and it really shows in Warner's breakdown that dak cannot really read a defense most of the time, missing all those open receivers is inexcusable for a 7 year starting QB.

Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes miss wide receivers all the time. Y’all expect Dak to walk on water lol.

 

[cnuball21]

I watch full games and good offenses play in space. It seems like more times then not Cowboys receivers are right next to each other at all times. It’s been proven Dak seems to be the most accurate when on the run. My issue with Kellen is he doesn’t play to this trans strengths. And while Pollard has been great there’s another level he can go that Moore can’t seem to take him.

Watching the Eagles is maddening. AJ and Devonta always seem to be wide open.

Granted they’re studs, but their OC does a good job.

 

[CowboyFrog]

But if our O-Line is, as you say, "bottom 5 Pass win rate". and as you say "KM has issues either with design or how the Wrs are running routes IE one of the worst separation groups in the nfl,", then surely we take the ball out of Dak's hand (not that we're blaming him of course) and increase the number of run plays and laterals.

I'd settle for scaling back the Shotgun formation...its maddening that KM loves it so much when we have great success from this current offense when we go under center and dont tip our hand completley.

 

[USArmyVet]

It's not the start of the race that measures the driver or the driver's team, but the end of the race.
You guys are too hung up on stats during the race. Let's talk about stats and Kellen Moore's prowess near the checkered flag.
I've been saying all along coaching matters more during the playoffs. The best coaches and the best quarterbacks usually win.
Although regular season primes you for the playoffs, I'm not enamored with regular season stats when there's a greater goal.
We're Dallas Cowboys fans, not Detroit Lions fans. We have an expectation of the season that doesn't end with Week 17.
Sadly, we've been so inept as a franchise, that some of us have been forced to take refuge in stats.
Dak was leading the league in offensive stats ... Dak had a career year in 2021 ... blah, blah, blah.
How did Dak play against the 49ers in the playoffs?
What brilliant play calling did Moore devise throughout the game that kept us ahead at home instead of needing a failed rally at the end of the game?
We were 1-and-done in the playoffs. But, hey, we were the No. 1 ranked offense in 2021. Woohoo!

Moore was made the Dallas OC in January 2019.....Dak, starting in 2019, has seen his stats improve from his 2016-2018 years.....but Moore sucks so it must be a coincidence and it's really all Dak transforming the offense suddenly.

 

[tyke1doe]

Moore was made the Dallas OC in January 2019.....Dak, starting in 2019, has seen his stats improve from his 2016-2018 years.....but Moore sucks so it must be a coincidence and it's really all Dak transforming the offense suddenly.

What do stats have to do with playoff failures?
For all the stat padding, we have done NOTHING in the playoffs.
I'll worry about stats and Moore's proficiency as an OC when we start stacking up playoff wins.

 

[xwalker]

I don't know how anyone who understands football or claims to can watch the ALL 22 and see how poor the playcalls are at times. Not all the time but there are times where there's absolutely no one open. I know a lot of y'all are Eagles fans have you guys not wondered how Devonta and AJ Brown are running wide open most of the game? Or do the Eagles just have special powers?

The Eagles have a QB with:
689 rushing yards
10 rushing TDs
59 rushing 1st downs

You can't compare that offensive scheme to traditional schemes.

Defenses:
Limit their pass rush to contain Hurts.
Use a spy player on Hurts.
Play zone when they prefer man.
.
.
.

Those things result in more open WRs.

Put Rodgers or Brady on that team and defenses will play pass defense over run defense regardless of how much they get gashed by the run.
- i.e. The Eagles WRs would get open less often.
- An open WR is not a guaranteed completion with Hurts. Is is a near guarantee with Brady.

The Cowboys gave up 207 rushing yards to the Packers because they're never going to sell out to play run defense when Rodgers is the QB.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Moore was made the Dallas OC in January 2019.....Dak, starting in 2019, has seen his stats improve from his 2016-2018 years.....but Moore sucks so it must be a coincidence and it's really all Dak transforming the offense suddenly.

These teams are not all the same, when the offense was loaded and the defense was suspect it showed....the problem is that this years offense (even proclaimed by the GM) was built to "Run the damn ball" with a good defense that can get after a QB. Therein lies the problem to me...why when your strengths this year are not the WR core do we still see the "KM shotgun scheme" keep popping up in games when clearly this current offense does better in an under center ball control PA scheme. Again teams change the mark of a good coach is scheming to his CURRENT teams strength not trying to force "His" scheme on personel that is not made for it.

 

[erod]

I watch full games and good offenses play in space. It seems like more times then not Cowboys receivers are right next to each other at all times. It’s been proven Dak seems to be the most accurate when on the run. My issue with Kellen is he doesn’t play to this trans strengths. And while Pollard has been great there’s another level he can go that Moore can’t seem to take him.

Linehan couldn't do it with Dak. Garrett couldn't. Moore and McCarthy can't.

What's the common denominator here?

 

[nathanlt]

Where is Kellen sitting when he's designing these plays? Play design doesn't happen in 5 seconds the play does. This is on Kellen Moore lack of experience and the Joneses for hiring him.

I am not an advocate for Kellen Moore... but... sometimes an OC can make a play call that the defense has called the right counter for. Critics of an OC have to admit that.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I am not an advocate for Kellen Moore... but... sometimes an OC can make a play call that the defense has called the right counter for. Critics of an OC have to admit that.

For sure and thats is why play calling is important because its a chess game, the problem i have is with any coach who will not change his scheme to match his curretn roster talent....its one thing to go shotgun air raid when the WR core is the strength of the team, this current team play much better with under center ball control using PA. I scratch my head that we have offensive series that we never come out of shotgun.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

lets put your theory to the test

MM and Rodgers won a SB
Let’s see if MM and Dak can do it

this way we will know who the problem is

Dak is not Rodgers. Stop comparing Dak with Rodgers...what's wrong with you?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Case in point. Open guys all over the place

QB doesn't see/recognize the obvious

It's the OC fault.

You literally just said Tom Brady wouldn't do any better than Dak "in this system"

You can't make this stuff up.

well, Warner, who many here point to as he often analyzes dak's play, said multiple times the play design is flawed. but hey what the heck does warner know..

and I literally said, even if tom brady comes here we won't win a superbowl...I didn't say we won't improve. I think in your haste to just jump and bash you had a premature ejaculation....

Moore's offensive system leaves a lot to be desired and if its so bad that it would require the Goat to make it work, then that should tell you all you need to know