Warner Breakdown of Dak vs Houston

[kskboys]

The consistent theme early on in the video (and past talk from others) centers on the fact that Dak seems to suffer from a delay in reading the defense which hurts him and the team.

Slow processor. This is actually a known thing.

 

[BoysForLife]

are you kidding? seriously. are you kidding me!!!

No.

I'm dead serious. See it every week on this forum. Ad nauseum

 

[BoysForLife]

so a QB supposed to make a filet mignon out of pile of shiet play designs...we have a pop warner Offensive Coordinator designing plays for NFL team. why Moore is not fired yet, is beyond me. we will never ever win a superbowl with Moore, even if we had Rodgers as QB and Brady as his back up.

Case in point. Open guys all over the place

QB doesn't see/recognize the obvious

It's the OC fault.

You literally just said Tom Brady wouldn't do any better than Dak "in this system"

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[tyke1doe]

Nutshell: Dak lacks anticipation and misses way too many open receivers, and Jerry needs to hire Kurt Warner as offensive coordinator.

Got it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Doesn't matter who the protection is. If you're already rattled before pressure actually occurs because you "think it might occur" then you're not fit for the lead dog role

No confidence in protection or the playbook will lead to you being rattled. But you notice on that 98 yard drive he wasn't rattled. Because its all on him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Daks internal clock has never been that good and when there is more pressure he can't seem to speed things up. He looks so rushed and panicky

Its crazy though how he has a internal clock on that 98 yard drive.

 

[BoysForLife]

No confidence in protection or the playbook will lead to you being rattled. But you notice on that 98 yard drive he wasn't rattled. Because its all on him.

So again, to make sure I understand correctly, when things go wrong, it's clearly the fault of the o line and Kellen Moore.

When things go right, it's "all on dak"

I honestly don't want to put words in your mouth but that seems to be what you are saying. Am I understanding you correctly?

 

[Vabchshark]

In all honesty, I think a better QB coach would help Dak. I've thought this since losing Jon Kitna, where Dak definitely performed better and seemed to be better prepared for games.

 

[visionary]

so a QB supposed to make a filet mignon out of pile of shiet play designs...we have a pop warner Offensive Coordinator designing plays for NFL team. why Moore is not fired yet, is beyond me. we will never ever win a superbowl with Moore, even if we had Rodgers as QB and Brady as his back up.

lets put your theory to the test

MM and Rodgers won a SB
Let’s see if MM and Dak can do it

this way we will know who the problem is

 

[tyke1doe]

Warner is just good at dissecting plays. This videos are EXCELLENT!
They also underscore how difficult it is to play quarterback in the NFL and then to play at a high level.
You have to have super processing speed.
That's why quarterbacks like Brady, Montana, Marino, Moon, etc. are among the greats.
They may not have great arms (with the exception of Marino, of course), but their ability to rapidly scan the field and make the right throw is remarkable and what makes them all-time greats.

 

[birdwells1]

After watching this breakdown by Kurt Warner, it's become crystal clear what is the biggest problem facing our passing: it's the stupidly horrible routes per play Kellen Moore has designed, plus several receivers running super lazy routes (looking specifically at you, CeeDee). Absolutely horrible designed routes on almost every play that actually hurts your QB and instead helps the opposing Defense. No wonder Dak looks as bad as he does on failed passing plays. Any QB would struggle if his receivers were running such horrible routes that do nothing but make life harder for your QB to find any open receiver. Kellen Moore and his assistant coaches are the problem!

Jerry should hire Kurt Warner to come redesign the entire playbook, especially our receiver routes, plus help this Offense understand Kurt's better way of designing route running pass plays...and why.

You are absolutely correct, Dak may make bad reads on some throws but he, like very other NFL qb, is under pressure from 300 pound dlinemen trying to take his head off. Lets just say some mistakes will be made but Kellen Moore is sitting behind a desk with all the time in the world in the offseason to design plays and he comes up with plays with glaring weaknesses as Warner points out? Why hasn't other coaches pointed these things out to him?

KURT WARNER SHOULD BE OUR NEXT OC!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

he did say up front, that he doesn't analyze the good plays, because that's not going to help improve, essentially saying he is just trying to find faults.....

Exactly!

Dak isnt watching that trust me.

 

[birdwells1]

The plays are too cluttered. The receivers aren't getting enough separation from one another which leads to, too many defenders around the ball. Moore is not attacking the outside or the corners of the field enough.

This film breakdown is an indictment of Kellen's play design as it's not helping the passing offense at all. Too many times I heard Warner saying "I don't know why.........." or "the wr should be running here instead of......."

 

[birdwells1]

I think there's a world of difference between 20/20 hindsight with freeze frames compared to live action with 5 seconds maximum. Although Kurt has lived the game real time, he sits in comfort, pondering the weaknesses of both the OC and quarterback. It's a good living, making well-reasoned critiques after rewinding the play multiple times, I'm sure. I don't fault Dak for overcoming the wrong play call to match the defense, and have 2 defenders closing fast, to make the single, most perfect decision without fail. Sure, this tape might help to be more accurate, but on the other hand, it might make Dak more hesitant too.

Where is Kellen sitting when he's designing these plays? Play design doesn't happen in 5 seconds the play does. This is on Kellen Moore lack of experience and the Joneses for hiring him.

 

[blueblood70]

So taking all of that on board ......why do we even bother moving off the run on 1st or 2nd down. Stick to what we're good at. Limit penalties, run and option a short field pass.

The added advantage is that we wont be giving short field from the pick-offs. Use the run and Defense.

got to mix it up my man and i believe it wont be lie that all the time.. like i said, some has to do with bad timing or luck with tips or dak getting bumped.im sure they are working on it.. i mean given all that offense is playing well as a whole.Im not worried

last Sunday, 2 dropped tds and some dropped passes along with some pressure bumped or hit dak in the middle of the throw, that doesn't happen every game and the pass game if those pays were made would have looked much better. we won , we are winning. Lets just leave it there.

 

[75boyz]

So again, to make sure I understand correctly, when things go wrong, it's clearly the fault of the o line and Kellen Moore.

When things go right, it's "all on dak"

I honestly don't want to put words in your mouth but that seems to be what you are saying. Am I understanding you correctly?

He's this year's scapegoat.
Past winners have included injuries, o-line, defense, Zeke, Garrett, etc.
You can even ask the mod here, lol.

And to answer your question "No, it is never Dak's fault."

And then to think the same Dak support team guys don't see how contradictory they are when the OC whose resume includes all of these gaudy offensive stats from both past and present whose offense is being executed on the field by whom again?

Basic hot potato blame ball game again bro. The weird thing is, a bunch of 'em have the All 22 as I do and if ya just pause the tape it all comes back to QB decision making.

Not wrong routes by the receiver or route concept designs by the OC.

Bad decisions by the QB.

 

[tyke1doe]

Where is Kellen sitting when he's designing these plays? Play design doesn't happen in 5 seconds the play does. This is on Kellen Moore lack of experience and the Joneses for hiring him.

It's so infuriating.
We have the talent.
But Jerry wants to loan his Ferrari to a 17-year-old who just got his license and who doesn't understand the magnificent and powerful machine he's been entrusted with. And the 17-year-old keeps crashing the car as Jerry simply says, "That's okay, he'll be a great race car driver someday."
Meanwhile, there are Richard Petty's, Dale Earnhardt's and Mario Andretti's salivating to get behind the wheel of Jerry's Ferrari.
Jerry and his experimentation with Kellen Moore is just a waste of time. We'll likely be 20 years into the reign of Kellen Moore with no NFC Championship or Super Bowl to show for it.

 

[Captain-Crash]

He's this year's scapegoat.
Past winners have included o-line, defense, Zeke, Garrett, etc.
You can even ask the mod here, lol.

And to answer your question "No, it is never Dak's fault."

And then to think the same Dak support team guys don't see how contradictory they are when the OC whose resume includes all of these gaudy offensive stats from both past and present whose offense is being executed on the field by whom again?

Basic hot potato blame ball game again bro. The weird thing is, a bunch of 'em have the All 22 as I do and if ya just pause the tape it all comes back to QB decision making.

Not wrong routes by the receiver or route concept designs by the OC.

Bad decisions by the QB.

 

[USArmyVet]

It's so infuriating.
We have the talent.
But Jerry wants to loan his Ferrari to a 17-year-old who just got his license and doesn't understand the magnificent and powerful machine he's been entrusted with. And the 17-year-old keeps crashing the car as Jerry says, "That's okay, he'll be a great race car driver someday."
Jerry and his experimentation with Kellen Moore is just a waste of time. We'll likely be 20 years into the reign of Kellen Moore with no NFC Championship or Super Bowl to show fir it.

So explain how people reference how Dak was leading the NFL is offensive stats prior to his injury in 2020 and how Dak had a career year in 2021......as if Moore had nothing to do with any of that.

 

[birdwells1]

It's so infuriating.
We have the talent.
But Jerry wants to loan his Ferrari to a 17-year-old who just got his license and who doesn't understand the magnificent and powerful machine he's been entrusted with. And the 17-year-old keeps crashing the car as Jerry simply says, "That's okay, he'll be a great race car driver someday."
Meanwhile, there are Richard Petty's, Dale Earnhardt's and Mario Andretti's salivating to get behind the wheel of Jerry's Ferrari.
Jerry and his experimentation with Kellen Moore is just a waste of time. We'll likely be 20 years into the reign of Kellen Moore with no NFC Championship or Super Bowl to show fir it.

When "someday" comes the Ferrari is already totaled.