Was drafting Spears a mistake?

[Vintage]

Um.....yellow?

I am not sure if its the fact I have been up since 6 am and got 3 hours of sleep last night and had to sit thru classes up until now....

But I don't get this reply.

Please help me.

 

[peplaw06]

Man the sharks have come out in this thread :laugh2:

I didn't think this thread would be 4 pages in less than an hour.

 

[superpunk]

D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.

Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Otter: Germans?

Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.

Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!

Right on time. :laugh2:

 

[Vintage]

Man the sharks have come out in this thread :laugh2:

I didn't think this thread would be 4 pages in less than an hour.

I am tired, cranky, got little sleep last night, have no caffeine in my system, and my patience is wearing thread to say the least.

Hence, my being short with him.

 

[Rush 2112]

This is just as valid of a discussion as the 20 or so declaring Carpenter to definitively be a bust.

Spears has been pretty average. Spears didn't start initially in Dallas. Spears was drafted around the same time as Carpenter.

The big argument for going 3-4 was that it was easier to find players. I don't see that as being the case at all. Dallas still had to invest heavily in the defense to implement the 3-4. Is a two gapping DE in a 3-4 worth a first round pick?

I don't get this.

Lacewell et al were 0 for 10 something at the DT position post Jimmy.

1 for whatever at the DE position.

2 drafts and we are 2 solidly 2 deep everywhere except NT.

To get the prototype 4-3 DE you are usually picking top 5 (Peppers/Mario).

And we haven't even started talking about the DT's yet.

2 gap 3-4 DE is clearly not worth a first round pick if you conclude those 2 gaps are unimportant.

As long as BP, BB and Schottenheimer think they're worth it (Ty Warren, Seymour, Spears, Castillo) I'm ok with it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

2 gap 3-4 DE is clearly not worth a first round pick if you conclude those 2 gaps are unimportant.

:laugh1: good one

 

[Vintage]

I don't get this.

Lacewell et al were 0 for 10 something at the DT position post Jimmy.

1 for whatever at the DE position.

2 drafts and we are 2 solidly 2 deep everywhere except NT.

To get the prototype 4-3 DE you are usually picking top 5 (Peppers/Mario).

And we haven't even started talking about the DT's yet.

2 gap 3-4 DE is clearly not worth a first round pick if you conclude those 2 gaps are unimportant.

As long as BP, BB and Schottenheimer think they're worth it (Ty Warren, Seymour, Spears, Castillo) I'm ok with it.

Welcome to the end of the thought process....


One can only hope the OP learns from this thread.

 

[superpunk]

I am not sure if its the fact I have been up since 6 am and got 3 hours of sleep last night and had to sit thru classes up until now....

But I don't get this reply.

Please help me.

There is no answer to your question, except, "Whoops, I didn't think my clever plan the whole way through. I'm gonna back off this one, fellas."

So I tried helping. Naming a color is just as valid a response as every one of his so far in this thread.

Abraham at DE. The number 2.

 

[cowboys41fe]

I guess if you want to continue having fools gold... HUTCHINSON, Q CARTER, HENSON... ROMO??? We can only HOPE ROMO is the real deal, if not... Again fools gold... Just draft a QB...

 

[YosemiteSam]

We were switching to a 3-4 defense. Ellis cannot play a DE in a 3-4. He had to transition to a LBer. We drafted Canty and Spears to play DE and guess what. They are our primary DEs. So, if your first round draft choice is playing first team. The answer is, No. He was a good draft choice.

The draft is a crap shoot. Someone can be drafted in the first round and be a bust and someone drafted in the same draft in the 7th round could end up being the best player in the draft, yet are all the first round players drafted mistakes because they didn't take x player until the 7th round? The answer again is, No.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I guess if you want to continue having fools gold... HUTCHINSON, Q CARTER, HENSON... ROMO??? We can only HOPE ROMO is the real deal, if not... Again fools gold... Just draft a QB...

 

[superpunk]

I guess if you want to continue having fools gold... HUTCHINSON, Q CARTER, HENSON... ROMO??? We can only HOPE ROMO is the real deal, if not... Again fools gold... Just draft a QB...

I tried charting your thought process through this thread. Take a look at what I've done, and tell me if I'm even close to understanding you.

Does that sum up your points adequately?

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

Another draft mistake thread?? ... yawn

Your basic premise is why draft Spears when we got Canty in the 4th... When we drafted Spears we didn't know we were going to get Canty, so the entire point is moot.

Even if we did know we would get Canty, we still didn't know that his eye would allow him to play last year if ever.

Instead of looking at Spears as a mistake, I view Canty as a homerun, giving us great depth, and a true first round talent in the fourth round.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Does that sum up your points adequately?

...woman with a bad hairday?

 

[cowboys41fe]

That is all I'm saying... Can we please start to take a look at the offense... Brees would have been a start, but BP and his FOB's...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

That is all I'm saying... Can we please start to take a look at the offense... Brees would have been a start, but BP and his FOB's...

we will, but we had to work on the D 1st, it's easier

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I tried charting your thought process through this thread. Take a look at what I've done, and tell me if I'm even close to understanding you.

Does that sum up your points adequately?

I do not mean to infer that this new poster is nors so I don't want ANYONE to start like I am.

However the progression of his in this thread and than the last one with the QBs somewhat reminds me of Nors when he first started here.

He would have some language structure difficulties and sound like yoda would type and on occasion you read some of his posts and thought what the heck is this guy talking about as they seemed so out of left field.

This is what this thread and the QB post reminds me of.

 

[cowboys41fe]

You tell yourself your going to draft offense next year... I've been saying that since 1997 when we drafted David LaFluer... In 1998 we drafted Greg Ellis and we have used every #1 on a DEFENSIVE PLAYER since...

 

[Yeagermeister]

D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.

Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Otter: Germans?

Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.

Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!

AHHHHHHHH *starts fading out as he leaves the room then gets louder as he enters the room* AHHHHHHHH

 

[cowboys41fe]

I totally agree... Santonio Holmes was looking real good on the board...