Was Frederick Worth a First Round Pick?

[hornitosmonster]

Yes, word is that Baltimore would have taken him. It would have been proclaimed a genius pick by the Ravens and Cowboy fans would be blaming/hating Jerry for not taking him.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

You can't say he was worth the 31st pick until we see what T. Williams has. If T. Williams turns out to be a complete bust and gets cut, then we spent the 18th pick (not the 31st) on Frederick.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

So far the pick has been justified.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You can't say he was worth the 31st pick until we see what T. Williams has. If T. Williams turns out to be a complete bust and gets cut, then we spent the 18th pick (not the 31st) on Frederick.

Huh?

Some odd logic there dude... very odd.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Huh?

Some odd logic there dude... very odd.

It's not hard. We had the 18th pick. We traded it for the 31st and a 3rd. We spent the 31st on Fred and the 3rd on Will. If Will is a complete bust and doesn't even make the team, then we essentially spent our 18th on only Fred.

 

[KJJ]

Haha, did you just criticize the OP for not giving an opinion, and then refuse to give an opinion?

Yes, Frederick was absolutely worth a first round pick.

I gave my opinion. The OP always withholds his opinion until he gets a consensus. Glad you've already come to the conclusion after 2 preseason games that Frederick was worth a first round pick. He looked great against the Raiders second team DL on Orton's TD throw.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's not hard. We had the 18th pick. We traded it for the 31st and a 3rd. We spent the 31st on Fred and the 3rd on Will. If Will is a complete bust and doesn't even make the team, then we essentially spent our 18th on only Fred.

Geez Louise.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Let's put it this way, say we had a hypothetical re-draft right now based on what we have seen so far, I think Frederick would go higher than 31.

And Escobar and Webb a little lower.

Still early, so I wouldn't make too much out of how any player has looked so far. The learning curve is so different for each player. Grade this class two years from now.

 

[Gemini Dolly]

I believe so. I like what I am seeing from Travis so far.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

I gave my opinion. The OP always withholds his opinion until he gets a consensus. Glad you've already come to the conclusion after 2 preseason games that Frederick was worth a first round pick. He looked great against the Raiders second team DL on Orton's TD throw.

Your opinion is that you have no opinion. Strong stuff there.

 

[KJJ]

It's ridiculous to come to a conclusion that a player who was considered a reach is worth their draft status after only 2 preseason games where they've gotten only a few series against starting players. We'll find out everything we need to know about Frederick when he's going head to head vs a pro bowl player for 4 quarters during the regular season.

 

[DFWJC]

He's already the best looking linemen on the line. I mean, he is glaringly better than the others, even better than Tyron Smiff.

I do not think right now that Travis Frederick is glaringly better than Tyron Smith. I'd rethink that if I were you--and also take into account the positions that they play with LT being the island that it is.

I'm happy with what I've seen so far though.

 

[AsthmaField]

You can't say he was worth the 31st pick until we see what T. Williams has. If T. Williams turns out to be a complete bust and gets cut, then we spent the 18th pick (not the 31st) on Frederick.

I do see what you're saying, but we traded the 18th pick for #31 and a third rounder, but we used the 31st pick on Frederick. That's where he was taken. His contract was for the 31st player taken. That is where he is slotted.

So, when asked if Frederick is worth where he was taken, then you look at the 31st pick to make that decision. And like I said, if he continues to play the was he is now... he was easily worth the 31st pick.

Heck, if he continues to play like he is so far, he is easily worth the 18th pick. The guy has been a beast and solidified the entire interior of the OLine.

If T Williams pans out, then it will have been an extremely productive trade for Dallas.

 

[AsthmaField]

It's ridiculous to come to a conclusion that a player who was considered a reach is worth their draft status after only 2 preseason games where they've gotten only a few series against starting players. We'll find out everything we need to know about Frederick when he's going head to head vs a pro bowl player for 4 quarters during the regular season.

Why? There have been plenty of people who determined that he wasn't worth that pick and that it was a bad trade before he had even played in those 2 games.

 

[jobberone]

How come when you ask the board their opinion of something you withhold your opinion until a few start giving their answers? Why not just give your opinion instead of waiting to see what the consensus is? It makes it appear your answer is going to be based on what others think. It's way too soon to know if Frederick was worth a first round pick we'll find that out during the regular season.

Why do you ask why questions? This is a deliberately inflammatory remark that just starts stuff. As long as we are asking why questions, why not just answer the question like everyone else?

 

[KJJ]

Your opinion is that you have no opinion. Strong stuff there.

It's obvious you don't know what an opinion is. The OP wanted to know if Frederick was worth a first round pick. That can't be answered after only 2 preseason games. That's called an "opinion" and it was expanded on by someone who doesn't jump to conclusions after only a few preseason snaps. When Orton has played the Cowboys have kept their starting OL in the game to protect him so Frederick has gone up against backups part of the time. It doesn't take much for FANS here to anoint a player. LOL

 

[jobberone]

Stay on target....I mean topic. Otherwise....

 

[theogt]

You can't say he was worth the 31st pick until we see what T. Williams has. If T. Williams turns out to be a complete bust and gets cut, then we spent the 18th pick (not the 31st) on Frederick.

A decision shouldn't be judged on hindsight but rather on the information available at the time the decision was made.

 

[KJJ]

Why do you ask why questions? This is a deliberately inflammatory remark that just starts stuff. As long as we are asking why questions, why not just answer the question like everyone else?

It's a question that can't be answered after only 2 preseason games and I explained why. Have you already come to a yes or no answer on Frederick? We debated Parnell during the offseason and you seemed completely sold on him and I explained why I wasn't and thought he wouldn't amount to anything more than an average player. I saw enough of him to make a call. I haven't seen enough of Frederick to know whether he was worth a first round pick. I need to see him play during the regular season against quality starting players before I'll know if he was worth a #1 pick.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I have no problem with the pick, he can play the position for 10+ years!