Was Frederick Worth a First Round Pick?

[ksadler1]

I'm going to quote what I heard from a pretty good football guy, I believe it was John Gruden but I could be wrong. He said if your team has a guy rated very high on their board, and they feel the guy will help their team, who cares what the other "experts" think. He said even if you take the guy higher than everyone else thinks he should go, you got the guy you were targeting anyway so why should it matter?.....I would have to agree with Gruden and I am happy we got our center. Does not matter to me where he was drafted. He's a keeper.....

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Are you sure you want the HELLZ YEAH right now? Because some want to see if he can handle probowlers first.

I think HELLZ YEAH is appropriate if for no other reason than he is markedly better than any other Center we have seen here in awhile, already head and shoulders above Gurode.

 

[5Stars]

Who said anything about caring what you talked about? Talk about whatever the heck you want lol...

I just asked if you actually thought reaching a conclusion about the guy so quickly from all that talking was possible.

From what we have had at center the past years, hell yes.

 

[Califan007]

From what we have had at center the past years, hell yes.

LOL...I'll definitely give you that...you went through something like 19 centers last season alone.

 

[5Stars]

LOL...I'll definitely give you that...you went through something like 19 centers last season alone.

Go slobber over RG3...

 

[Califan007]

Go slobber over RG3...

I didn't realize agreeing with you would rub you the wrong way lol...

 

[5Stars]

I didn't realize agreeing with you would rub you the wrong way lol...

I just don't like Commander fans. And, that would be you. And the reason I don't like you fans is because you Commanders only come to this board when you have a winning season. Otherwise, you guys disappear like roaches.

Now, go to your room, put on a dress and a hog nose and relive your glory days.

 

[AsthmaField]

You guys really think this can be answered now?

Look, even if Frederick didn't improve at all from what he is right now, he would still be light years better than what Dallas had last season. Right now he has a great anchor and can stop bull rushes in their tracks. Right now his power opens up run lanes inside that we haven't seen around here since Gurode was in his prime in 2007. Right now he makes all the correct calls and has everyone on the same page. Right now he is a rock in the center of the line that changes the entire line for the better. Right now he is quick to the second level and is a huge boost to the run game.

All of this he does right now.

If he doesn't improve at all, and I mean not one little bit more than he already is... then he was easily worth the 31 overall pick. With just about 3 weeks practice in his first NFL camp, he already is a damn good center.

So yes, we can say right now that he was worth the pick.

The great thing is though, by the mid point of this year, he should be playing at an even higher level than he is right now. I mean, he's already playing at a high level. That isn't a projection. He's doing it. The improvement is expected for him just like it is for all rookies... the only difference is that most rookies don't start out playing at such a high level.

Yes, he was definitely worth the 31st pick, and it is easy to see, even right now.

 

[zrinkill]

Commanders only come to this board when you have a winning season. Otherwise, you guys disappear like roaches.

Now, go to your room, put on a dress and a hog nose and relive your glory days.

 

[jobberone]

We don't know anything more about Parnell now than we did this spring. He tried to make it through a couple of practices with a hamstring injury and was finally pulled off the field to get healthy.

That was addressed to him only but you're right. Parnell, to my disappointment, has fallen off the radar for the most part.

 

[Rockport]

I just don't like Commander fans. And, that would be you. And the reason I don't like you fans is because you Commanders only come to this board when you have a winning season. Otherwise, you guys disappear like roaches.

Now, go to your room, put on a dress and a hog nose and relive your glory days.

If there's a post of the day contest, this one wins hands down.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Sorry, but that is terrible logic.

Yeah, I thought so too. That whole post teetered on the brink of "troll."

Look, even if Frederick didn't improve at all from what he is right now, he would still be light years better than what Dallas had last season. Right now he has a great anchor and can stop bull rushes in their tracks. Right now his power opens up run lanes inside that we haven't seen around here since Gurode was in his prime in 2007. Right now he makes all the correct calls and has everyone on the same page. Right now he is a rock in the center of the line that changes the entire line for the better. Right now he is quick to the second level and is a huge boost to the run game.

All of this he does right now.

If he doesn't improve at all, and I mean not one little bit more than he already is... then he was easily worth the 31 overall pick. With just about 3 weeks practice in his first NFL camp, he already is a damn good center.

So yes, we can say right now that he was worth the pick.

The great thing is though, by the mid point of this year, he should be playing at an even higher level than he is right now. I mean, he's already playing at a high level. That isn't a projection. He's doing it. The improvement is expected for him just like it is for all rookies... the only difference is that most rookies don't start out playing at such a high level.

Yes, he was definitely worth the 31st pick, and it is easy to see, even right now.

Well said.

A big part of why this line is better than last year's line.

 

[jobberone]

Look, even if Frederick didn't improve at all from what he is right now, he would still be light years better than what Dallas had last season. Right now he has a great anchor and can stop bull rushes in their tracks. Right now his power opens up run lanes inside that we haven't seen around here since Gurode was in his prime in 2007. Right now he makes all the correct calls and has everyone on the same page. Right now he is a rock in the center of the line that changes the entire line for the better. Right now he is quick to the second level and is a huge boost to the run game.

All of this he does right now.

If he doesn't improve at all, and I mean not one little bit more than he already is... then he was easily worth the 31 overall pick. With just about 3 weeks practice in his first NFL camp, he already is a damn good center.

So yes, we can say right now that he was worth the pick.

The great thing is though, by the mid point of this year, he should be playing at an even higher level than he is right now. I mean, he's already playing at a high level. That isn't a projection. He's doing it. The improvement is expected for him just like it is for all rookies... the only difference is that most rookies don't start out playing at such a high level.

Yes, he was definitely worth the 31st pick, and it is easy to see, even right now.

Agreed. He should get better over the next two-three years as he learns the game, gets stronger with the weights and as he ages some, and hopefully he works on his agility and speed and picks up a half step or so.

 

[AsthmaField]

Agreed. He should get better over the next two-three years as he learns the game, gets stronger with the weights and as he ages some, and hopefully he works on his agility and speed and picks up a half step or so.

He is already really quick to the second level. He just doesn't run a good 40 time.

 

[5Stars]

I really don't like being mean like this, but hell, we got enough Cowboy trolls without having to deal with a Commander.

 

[jobberone]

He is already really quick to the second level. He just doesn't run a good 40 time.

Well, I wouldn't go so far as calling him quick but he's quicker than I thought.

 

[AsthmaField]

Well, I wouldn't go so far as calling him quick but he's quicker than I thought.

He looks surprisingly quick to me, getting out to the linebackers.

 

[servant]

Hey crew :Romo seems to be onboard.Before 2 preseason games...I'm sold...

 

[5Stars]

He is already really quick to the second level. He just doesn't run a good 40 time.

lol No, but Larry Allen would drink a 40.

Where do these Cowboy fans come from?

I need to watch the game again tomorrow, but I really think that on a few plays he turned his man and went and got someone in the second level. Several times. Of course he was beat on some plays, but not many.

 

[Biggems]

We needed a C. we got the best C in the draft. I dont care if we used the 1st overall pick to do so......if you need a top tier OL then you get one, especially when you have a 100 million dollar QB and a plethora of offensive weapons already. You use those picks to grab top prospects and build a wall in front of your most valuable asset, your QB.

So to answer the original question, yes.......he is worth the 1st round pick.....but I tell you this much, and I am sure that there are a bunch of people who will agree with me, I would rather have Cooper and Fred, than Williams and Fred....and I would sacrafice Escobar to do so.