Was Romo's Career "Wasted"?

[ShortRound]

The club really needs to upgrade the HC position to reach the final goal. Drafting has improved over the past 5 yrs and player development too. Prescott has better fundamentals and a high work ethic,if McClay and friends can stiffen up the Defense there is a chance the Cowboys will succeed. It could take another 2-3 years.

I think Garret is on notice. If Stephen is truly slowly taken over.

 

[LowTech]

No

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It's hilarious that "elimination games" have been dredged up in this thread, it's sad that people really think that makes any sense. It does bring a tear to my eye though, now that Tony is retiring no player in the NFL will ever play an elimination game again. It's going to be hard to explain that logic in 50 years.

 

[Ring Leader]

Marino!!!
Poster boy for all failed QBs in the NFL!!!
But ... Marino ... actually ... got to ... the Super Bowl, yes?

The ultimate tease bloke.

 

[Ring Leader]

I'm sure Jergenson would have loved to play in a SB.

I doubt he'd trade the gold jacket for it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

The ultimate tease bloke.

MARINO!!!!
The tongue rolls off the name, good lad!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

The intend was to include lost "elimination" games both participated in.

Moronic? Maybe.

But it was at least an attempt to introduce some kind of numbers into a typical "My QB is better than your QB" argument.

Wins were left out because...


They weren't losses?

You're tearing me apart!

 

[casmith07]

Romo made $127 million.

I wish I could make that much in 14 years and have people ask me if my career was a waste.

 

[Brooksey]

Yes it was

 

[MileyDancer]

It's hilarious that "elimination games" have been dredged up in this thread, it's sad that people really think that makes any sense. It does bring a tear to my eye though, now that Tony is retiring no player in the NFL will ever play an elimination game again. It's going to be hard to explain that logic in 50 years.

When you're in a game where the winner goes on to the playoffs, and the loser is ELIMINATED from the playoffs, it's an ELIMINATION game.

 

[Ring Leader]

When you're in a game where the winner goes on to the playoffs, and the loser is ELIMINATED from the playoffs, it's an ELIMINATION game.

Who anointed that definition? As long as we're making stuff up, why can't an elimination game be a game that the losing team is just eliminated from the playoffs?

 

[MileyDancer]

Who anointed that definition? As long as we're making stuff up, why can't an elimination game be a game that the losing team is just eliminated from the playoffs?

 

[Coy]

Too soon for this discussion?

Yes, yes it was wasted, look at all the teams who get a franchise QB for the long run, most get SB's or at least get to them. There are only a few of them that don't. You can blame Tony all you want but he disn't have good enough teams/coaching while he was in Dallas and that falls on Jerry.

 

[DFWJC]

Lot's of assumptions there...

2009 Dallas had the 6th best passing attack in the NFL and lost to Minnesota in the playoffs when Romo was 22 for 35 for a whole 198 yards and 1 pick.

Minnesota was 27th that season in passing defense based on QB rating, which was one place worse than Green Bay was this past season.

One shouldn't assume.

Good stuff.

But we all know Minnesota in that dome with that lethal pass rush was pretty dominant late in 2009. They beat New York 44-7 the previous game, for example. The defense hadnt given up more that 10 points at home since October....they were totally dominant at home.

And then when our best olineman went down and an already weak and aging oline became even more porous, our offense was in real trouble. That game was a route on borh sides of the ball...kind of like what we did Philly in the home wildcard game the week before.

Bottom line is Dallas has lost two playoff games since 2006 that they were favored in....both cases slight favorites, btw.
2007 vs NY and 2016 vs GB

All other wins or losses went as expected, pre-game.
We were favored at home to beat Philly and Detroit in 2009 and 2014. We did
We were not favored to on the road at Seattle in 2006, Minnesota in 2009, or Green Bay in 2014. Thats what happened.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

When you're in a game where the winner goes on to the playoffs, and the loser is ELIMINATED from the playoffs, it's an ELIMINATION game.

Stop embarrassing yourself. There are two types of games, regular season and playoff games. You don't get to make up a type of game. That's stupid. Regular season games are not playoff games. Playoff games can not end in ties. Playoff games are played at the site of the higher seed. Regular season games are just games on the schedule that have the exact same value (1/16th) as the other ones. Elimination games are a sad attempt by desperate losers to devalue one single player in the history of the NFL.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Good stuff.

But we all know Minnesota in that dome with that lethal pass rush was pretty dominant late in 2009. They beat New York 44-7 the previous game, for example. The defense hadnt given up more that 10 points at home since October....they were totally dominant at home.

And then when our best olineman went down and an already weak and aging oline became even more porous, our offense was in real trouble. That game was a route on borh sides of the ball...kind of like what we did Philly in the home wildcard game the week before.

Bottom line is Dallas has lost two playoff games since 2006 that they were favored in....both cases slight favorites, btw.
2007 vs NY and 2016 vs GB

All other wins or losses went as expected, pre-game.
We were favored at home to beat Philly and Detroit in 2009 and 2014. We did
We were not favored to on the road at Seattle in 2006, Minnesota in 2009, or Green Bay in 2014. Thats what happened.

Good post.

They were really good on defense and our offensive line was horrific. They had 6 sacks, (Ray Edwards had 3 alone), 12 hurries and held us to 94 yards rushing. Anybody who thinks Roger, Troy, Dak or Johnny Unitas was going to win that game with that performance in that dome doesn't know football.

Look at what the Giants D line did to Brady in two SB's. Pressure is the great equalizer.

We just weren't good enough. If you want to put Tony in there that's fine. It's a team game and he's part of the team, but anybody who points to his stats that day and says that's why we lost is an idiot.

 

[MileyDancer]

Stop embarrassing yourself. There are two types of games, regular season and playoff games. You don't get to make up a type of game. That's stupid. Regular season games are not playoff games. Playoff games can not end in ties. Playoff games are played at the site of the higher seed. Regular season games are just games on the schedule that have the exact same value (1/16th) as the other ones. Elimination games are a sad attempt by desperate losers to devalue one single player in the history of the NFL.

Stop embarrassing myself? Please, show me where I said elimination games are the same as regular season and playoff games. I'll wait.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Good stuff.

But we all know Minnesota in that dome with that lethal pass rush was pretty dominant late in 2009. They beat New York 44-7 the previous game, for example. The defense hadnt given up more that 10 points at home since October....they were totally dominant at home.

And then when our best olineman went down and an already weak and aging oline became even more porous, our offense was in real trouble. That game was a route on borh sides of the ball...kind of like what we did Philly in the home wildcard game the week before.

Bottom line is Dallas has lost two playoff games since 2006 that they were favored in....both cases slight favorites, btw.
2007 vs NY and 2016 vs GB

All other wins or losses went as expected, pre-game.
We were favored at home to beat Philly and Detroit in 2009 and 2014. We did
We were not favored to on the road at Seattle in 2006, Minnesota in 2009, or Green Bay in 2014. Thats what happened.

I just know I'll remember Tony's 2 playoff wins fondly.

 

[Cowboysfan917]

Good post.

They were really good on defense and our offensive line was horrific. They had 6 sacks, (Ray Edwards had 3 alone), 12 hurries and held us to 94 yards rushing. Anybody who thinks Roger, Troy, Dak or Johnny Unitas was going to win that game with that performance in that dome doesn't know football.

Look at what the Giants D line did to Brady in two SB's. Pressure is the great equalizer.

We just weren't good enough. If you want to put Tony in there that's fine. It's a team game and he's part of the team, but anybody who points to his stats that day and says that's why we lost is an idiot.

Great post.

People seem to forget that it's been 22 years since a super bowl victory and Romo's career was only 14 years long...this team has been bad for quite a while. If anything, Romo kept them relevant. One of the many reasons Jerry loves Romo. The Cowboys would've been the Browns for the last 10 years if not for #9.

 

[rpntex]

Great post.

People seem to forget that it's been 22 years since a super bowl victory and Romo's career was only 14 years long...this team has been bad for quite a while. If anything, Romo kept them relevant. One of the many reasons Jerry loves Romo. The Cowboys would've been the Browns for the last 10 years if not for #9.

I will go you one better... Tony Romo did not "keep" the Cowboys relevant - he MADE them relevant again. People tend to gloss over the state of the quarterback position before Romo became the starter. Quincy, Hutch, Stoerner, Henson, Bledsoe (I'm probably forgetting someone here). It wasn't until Romo was installed as the starter that we started seeing some consistency under center.

Then that OL that was so good in 2007 began to age out and decline, to where by 2009 it was a shell of what it had been. That became painfully evident in the playoffs lost to Minnesota. Romo did not have a terrible game, statistically speaking, but it was far from a great game, too. The fact is he spent the majority of his day throwing from his backside.

Then, as a Cowboys took the next few years to rebuild that offensive line, Romo – largely by himself – kept the teams head above water. There were a lot of times he literally had to take the team on his back. With that game some assumed risks, but you have to take the good with the bad. In my opinion, the good far outweighs the other.