Was Romo's Career "Wasted"?

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I'm not the one comparing playing the 2009 Vikings on the road to playing the 2016 Packers at home as if they were the same situations.

In one way, they were the same. Lost both games.

You're right one difference is that one QB vastly outplayed the other.
 

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In one way, they were the same. Lost both games.

You're right one difference is that one QB vastly outplayed the other.
LOL, you're right. There wasn't much more Romo could do since he had defenders in the backfield the second he got the snap on what seemed like every play. On the other hand, there was much more room for improvement on Dak's game against a defense that had street free agents in the secondary and no pass rush.
 

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LOL, you're right. There wasn't much more Romo could do since he had defenders in the backfield the second he got the snap on what seemed like every play. On the other hand, there was much more room for improvement on Dak's game against a defense that had street free agents in the secondary and no pass rush.

Hey any time you want to provide some statistical support of the position that Romo would have out performed Prescott vs. the Packers I'd love to see it... And not more "I assume" or "I think".
 

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If the 2006 Romo had this team and the stability with the front office instead of the chaos he played with early, then things would have played out better for him.
 

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Hey any time you want to provide some statistical support of the position that Romo would have out performed Prescott vs. the Packers I'd love to see it... And not more "I assume" or "I think".
I mean he performed better in 2014 in the playoffs against a much better Packers defense on the road. Hard to imagine he couldn't do the same thing with better support at home against a much worse Packers defense in addition to the revenge factor that Dak just didn't have.
 

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I mean he performed better in 2014 in the playoffs against a much better Packers defense on the road. Hard to imagine he couldn't do the same thing with better support at home against a much worse Packers defense in addition to the revenge factor that Dak just didn't have.

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I first stated that Seattle's defense was better when compared to GB period, then added some context. If you have any excuses that could behoove Dak's performance other than being a rookie, go ahead.

I'm ignoring Dak being a rookie QB since that was known when they decided to go with him instead of Romo. Other than that and the defense being awful for the first half, Dak had it made and I can't think of a reason for him struggling for the first 2 and a half quarters. If there was something else, please let me know, otherwise I'm going to continue to assume Romo could have done better against probably the worst passing defense to ever make the NFCCG, much like I assumed correctly Ryan would easily outplay what Dak did in the NFCCG.
nobody has to give Dak any excuse in his first playoff game. 300yrds and 3 tds. Scored a td with under 1min. And a ref missing a blantant hold is why dallas loss. Whats ur excuse for Dak not winning his first playoff game?
 

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06' seattle snap
07' poor game vs NYG
08' shellacking at philly
09' 3 TOS in first half against minny
12' finale 3 int game vs WAS

He played a hand in each of those season ending losses.

Then you factor in he wasn't even available in

10'
13' finale win and in game
15'
16'

Like it or not he did not play well in the games that ended our seasons when he was healthy, and injuries took him out of another 4 seasons

I feel bad for him about 2014 because we were robbed, but he just didn't have great games in those other elimination losses
 

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and how many fo those playoff losses or potential playoff games lost due to him? He had plenty of opportunity and blew it.
Never said he didn't. If you look at my past posts I've blamed him plenty. The Cowboys never helped him with a solid running game until he was so old and brittle. I don't think he would have made as many careless moves if that had been the case. And the defense has been sub par for a great deal of his time here. But yea , he didn't play great in a lot of those playoff games.
 

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06' seattle snap
07' poor game vs NYG
08' shellacking at philly
09' 3 TOS in first half against minny
12' finale 3 int game vs WAS

He played a hand in each of those season ending losses.

Then you factor in he wasn't even available in

10'
13' finale win and in game
15'
16'

Like it or not he did not play well in the games that ended our seasons when he was healthy, and injuries took him out of another 4 seasons

I feel bad for him about 2014 because we were robbed, but he just didn't have great games in those other elimination losses

Exactly right.

Hey I'm not 100% sure Romo couldn't have come in for Dak vs. the Packers and not won the game.

BUT based on his track record... Romo wasn't a big-game QB. Why he could do it in the 4th quarter and not in a big game? I dunno. Nerves? Is he better improvising in the moment rather than having to think about what his challenge is next week? I dunno. But the fact was he didn't perform at a high level when it came to big games.
 

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Exactly right.

Hey I'm not 100% sure Romo couldn't have come in for Dak vs. the Packers and not won the game.

BUT based on his track record... Romo wasn't a big-game QB. Why he could do it in the 4th quarter and not in a big game? I dunno. Nerves? Is he better improvising in the moment rather than having to think about what his challenge is next week? I dunno. But the fact was he didn't perform at a high level when it came to big games.
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Anytime you want to offer some proof to support your face-palm...
Sure, he's 11th in postseason passer rating ahead of contemporaries lauded for their playoff success in Brady, Eli, and Flacco. Despite having a terrible offensive line for 2/3 of his playoff games, he performed admirably against really, really good defenses in most of his games. I still haven't seen proof of him not being a big game qb compared to his peers, just useless, cherry-picked statlines without any context.
 

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Sure, he's 11th in postseason passer rating ahead of contemporaries lauded for their playoff success in Brady, Eli, and Flacco. Despite having a terrible offensive line for 2/3 of his playoff games, he performed admirably against really, really good defenses in most of his games. I still haven't seen proof of him not being a big game qb compared to his peers, just useless, cherry-picked statlines without any context.

Considering passer rating is continually moving upward... That doesn't knock my socks off.

In addition, Dak's passer rating vs. GB was higher than Romo's postseason rating.
 

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Considering passer rating is continually moving upward... That doesn't knock my socks off.

In addition, Dak's passer rating vs. GB was higher than Romo's postseason rating.
That's why I compared to some peers that are praised for their playoff success. The only way you'd be able to compare Dak and Romo would be using Romo's 2014 season where the offensive support was similar. Romo's playoff passer rating in 2014 was significantly higher than Dak's game against GB despite Romo going against better defenses and having 1 game on the road.
 

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LOL, you're right. There wasn't much more Romo could do since he had defenders in the backfield the second he got the snap on what seemed like every play. On the other hand, there was much more room for improvement on Dak's game against a defense that had street free agents in the secondary and no pass rush.
Exactly right. Romo was sacked six times and hurried many times more. The offensive line was atrocious that game. To consider that game in anyway the fault of the QB is placing the blame where it shouldn't exist.
 

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That's why I compared to some peers that are praised for their playoff success. The only way you'd be able to compare Dak and Romo would be using Romo's 2014 season where the offensive support was similar. Romo's playoff passer rating in 2014 was significantly higher than Dak's game against GB despite Romo going against better defenses and having 1 game on the road.

Yep. The Cowboys put up 21 big points in 2014.


Solid showing.
 
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