Was T.O. worth the trouble last year?

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Bob Sacamano;1424169 said:
what's to explain? you say the same thing, damn near everytime you get into a TO discussion

Where did sacamano come from? You do know, don't you, that it means "take hand out" in Spanish? Is that a real family name or just a jokester moniker?:confused:
 

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Doomsday101;1424174 said:
And you still don't get it, your right I'll stop trying to explain it to you.

I do get it, you want more big-plays from TO in crucial situations

and I'm saying, outside of just 2 occasions, TO isn't known as a crucial receiver
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1424180 said:
Where did sacamano come from? You do know, don't you, that it means "take hand out" in Spanish? Is that a real family name or just a jokester moniker?:confused:

you watch Seinfeld?
 

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Doomsday101;1424174 said:
And you still don't get it, your right I'll stop trying to explain it to you.

Don't bother. Apparently, TO has to knock over a liquor store or worse to be considered "trouble" or a "distraction." Anything short of that is "aok" with the sheep and apologists, who leap to TO's defense no matter how serious the offense. I'd rather be "sensitive" than flat out blind.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1424182 said:
I do get it, you want more big-plays from TO in crucial situations

and I'm saying, outside of just 2 occasions, TO isn't known as a crucial receiver

And I disagree and have witnessed it in SF and Philly evidently you didn't so we just do not agree. Pretty simple.
 

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Doomsday101;1424190 said:
And I disagree and have witnessed it in SF and Philly evidently you didn't so we just do not agree. Pretty simple.

give me some examples please, other than the 2 I provided

you don't mind if I dont' take your word for it do you?
 

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bbgun;1424189 said:
Don't bother. Apparently, TO has to knock over a liquor store or worse to be considered "trouble" or a "distraction." Anything short of that is "aok" with the sheep and apologists, who leap to TO's defense no matter how serious the offense. I'd rather be "sensitive" than flat out blind.

I'm interested in hearing what these offenses are?

You just yell out every once in a while, "They're blind!! They don't see the offenses!!!" without telling us what these offenses are.

Yes, TO has made mistakes while he's been with Dallas, everyone knew he wouldn't be perfect, and he hasn't been, but it's hardly as bad as you suggest.
 

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bbgun;1424189 said:
Don't bother. Apparently, TO has to knock over a liquor store or worse to be considered "trouble" or a "distraction."


:lmao2: :laugh2: :lmao2:
 

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Commander fans should keep quiet about players who are troublesome.
 

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bbgun;1424263 said:
Let's review:

TO neglects to tell Jerry that he has a book coming out. Misunderstood! - Since when does TO have to tell Jerry that he's writing a book. This point makes no sense.
TO spends most of training camp on a bike. Misunderstood! - That's what someone does when he's injured...
TO brings in his own trainers and oxygen tanks. Misunderstood! - Did anyone take any offense to this? No? Ok.
TO tells Bill that "No practice, no play" is outdated and unnecessary. Misunderstood! - when does he say this?
TO drops balls left and right. Misunderstood! - uhm, how is this an "offense"? Were Bledsoe's INT's an offense? No? Ok.
TO overdoses and conducts perhaps the worst press conference in team history. Misunderstood! - His overdose is not an "offense", as it in no way affected the team.
TO is late for meetings and falls asleep in them. Misunderstood! - ok, agreed
TO childishly refuses to speak to his position coach. Misunderstood! - yet he talked to him a few days later...so where's the real offense?
TO throws Bled under the bus after the Philly game. Misunderstood! - Who's fault was it for that Philly game? And i doubt that he straight up threw him under the bus.
TO throws b-day bash for himself in LA days before a game. Misunderstood! - Do you work 24/7? No? Ok.
TO undercuts Bill by questioning Vandy's release. Misunderstood! - Did this affect the team? No? Ok.
TO spits in the face of an opponent. Misunderstood! - Yes, this was something that he should not have done, but did it affect the team? No?
TO admits in an ESPN interview that he doesn't always try hard. Misunderstood! - and obviously he CAN be an idiot.
TO runs lazy routes in the Seattle game and has to be told where to line up. Misunderstood! - I'm interested to see where this is written..?

I can't wait to see what 2007 will bring. Probably more "misunderstandings."http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1416092&postcount=87

I can't wait to see what more you've got in store to hate on all our players. Seriously, do you like ANY Cowboy with a star on his helmet?
 

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DragonCowboy;1424279 said:
I can't wait to see what more you've got in store to hate on all our players. Seriously, do you like ANY Cowboy with a star on his helmet?

These are a few of BB's favorite players.

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v210/zrinkill/Redskinthugs.jpg

Man those guys are cool ....... :rolleyes:
 

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zrinkill;1424282 said:
These are a few of BB's favorite players.

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v210/zrinkill/Redskinthugs.jpg

Man those guys are cool ....... :rolleyes:

Haha, they look like idiots.
 

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WV Cowboy;1424102 said:
If we are going to be totally unfair and compare Owens to our favorite Cowboys WR MI, let's at least be fair enough to remember Owens never had HOF QB Troy Aikman getting him the ball, or HOF RB Emmitt Smith occupying the safeties.

Like him or not, Owens has been and still is a great NFL WR.

Some of you don't like him, I get it.

You don't need to try and justify why you don't like him by pointing out reason why he isn't perfect.

I suppose HOF QB Troy Aikman has the uncanny ability - not only to throw a great deep ball - but to ensure that his receivers catch the ball with the game on the line as well.

Wow. He really was a great one. :rolleyes:
 

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DragonCowboy;1424279 said:
I can't wait to see what more you've got in store to hate on all our players. Seriously, do you like ANY Cowboy with a star on his helmet?

Don't challenge me to produce examples of "trouble" and then b*tch when you don't like the answers, okay? That's not how it works. And your pathetic attempts to explain away his serial flaws puts you solidly in "lost cause" territory. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, not a "win at any cost" fan like you and your partners in crime. Get a clue.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1424299 said:
zrinkill;1424282 said:
These are a few of BB's favorite players.

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v210/zrinkill/Redskinthugs.jpg

http://img187.*************/img187/5743/specialguy29ph9.jpg
 

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bbgun;1424300 said:
Don't challenge me to produce examples of "trouble" and then b*tch when you don't like the answers, okay? That's not how it works. And your pathetic attempts to explain away his serial flaws puts you solidly in "lost cause" territory. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, not a "win at any cost" fan like you and your partners in crime. Get a clue.

It's just that, most of them are NOT examples of "trouble". Some are, and I said they were.

And your "self-righteous" crap has been getting really old.

All you've done is name random examples such as, "wahhhhhhhhhhhhh he didn't tell jerry jones he was writing a book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", without telling us HOW that affected this team, which this poll is ultimately asking.

Before you spew your crap, you might want to get a clue as to what this whole thread is asking. It's not whether or not TO is a good person or whatever point you're trying to drive into our head, it's whether TO's actions affected the team, and if they did, to what extent.

How are my attempts pathetic, I'd really like to know?

When did I say that I was a "win at any cost" fan? All I said was that those points you put forward had no bearing on the play of our team as a whole. Maybe you should quit making mountains out of molehills and read the thread again before you make any more half-baked responses to this thread. Thank you.
 
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