We dont use Owens the right way

[Rgular_Skinman]

Didn't Owens tell Irvin that "he does not give it his all on every play?"

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Didn't Owens tell Irvin that "he does not give it his all on every play?"

Hi Troll

 

[vta]

yeah did you hear the end of the interview... he was happy to be a Cowboy and feels he should have always been one....

Ok so we keep him involved only enough to keep it team... keep all the anti-TO fans happy that HE is not singlehandedly winning games....

as long as anti-TO's are happy... blind... totally blind

You can't quantify all criticism as anti-TO. If Glenn acted the same way, he'd get the same criticism... now look at earlier games when Glenn was forgotten and TO did his thing. How did Glenn act? There's a big difference, he's quiet.

TO can't single handedly win games, and yeah I saw the end of the interview; pretty much leads me to believe the guy has serious psychological problems. He loves being a Cowboy, why, because he feels betrayed by them??? He feels martyred like MLK???

It'll all come together when it's over; he'll have a few sessions on the couch and the obvious will be made... obvious. The only thing keeping TO from being great is TO.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You can't quantify all criticism as anti-TO. If Glenn acted the same way, he'd get the same criticism... now look at earlier games when Glenn was forgotten and TO did his thing. How did Glenn act? There's a big difference, he's quiet.

TO can't single handedly win games, and yeah I saw the end of the interview; pretty much leads me to believe the guy has serious psychological problems. He loves being a Cowboy, why, because he feels betrayed by them??? He feels martyred like MLK???

It'll all come together when it's over; he'll have a few sessions on the couch and the obvious will be made... obvious. The only thing keeping TO from being great is TO.

You took what he said out of context to prop up your post.
He didnt like what some were doing in the organization... but as football organization... he seemed to put Dallas at the top... he felt like he was on the right team finally.

TO can singlehandedly win games... if only one... he needs to be given THAT chance.

 

[vta]

You took what he said out of context to prop up your post.
He didnt like what some were doing in the organization... but as football organization... he seemed to put Dallas at the top... he felt like he was on the right team finally.

TO can singlehandedly win games... if only one... he needs to be given THAT chance.

No, I took what he himself said and believed he was telling the truth. And it really made me look at him in a different way.

I had hoped he was on the right team finally. How great would it be for him to work out with the Cowboys, after all of that past mess? What would that say about the Cowboys?

He has to understand, there is no perfect situation and if the things some are doing affect how you do your mutli-million dollar job, you're not worth your cost.

I'll say it again, look how he reacted after one bad night for Romo.
Look how, during a four game winning streak didn't give him reason to be positive for once. It was still 'poor me'.

Notice the lack of wisdom to say to a reporter, hey I'm here to play football, you want to talk about that or not? He could kill this out of control scrutiny in a second, if his head were on right. It's not.

Maybe he could win games single handedly; all he needs to do is focus on what he's good at. Playing ball.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

No, I took what he himself said and believed he was telling the truth. And it really made me look at him in a different way.

I had hoped he was on the right team finally. How great would it be for him to work out with the Cowboys, after all of that past mess? What would that say about the Cowboys?

He has to understand, there is no perfect situation and if the things some are doing affect how you do your mutli-million dollar job, you're not worth your cost.

I'll say it again, look how he reacted after one bad night for Romo.
Look how, during a four game winning streak didn't give him reason to be positive for once. It was still 'poor me'.

Notice the lack of wisdom to say to a reporter, hey I'm here to play football, you want to talk about that or not? He could kill this out of control scrutiny in a second, if his head were on right. It's not.

Maybe he could win games single handedly; all he needs to do is focus on what he's good at. Playing ball.

Ok... I see you want the best for the team via TO so I apologize... he just wants to win with... so what he is mentally off... many are in the nfl... what are ya gonna do? He is what he is... with that said... if he doesnt come back next year and goes somewhere else... .WATCH how they use him... he will go back to lighting things up... he will play for many more years... I believe he has longevity... and still fast... see him catch/follow Julius in on TD...

We are missing the TO picture here... soon it will be too late. Using TO even if it not producing results right away during a game is akin to running the ball and not showing results right away in the game... eventually it shows... I am convinced that THAT is what is frustrating him

 

[ManicDepressiveMan]

TO is 33 years old.

We have to face facts that we bought the used version.

He is in decline and not the playmaker he once was that could dominate a game.

Or didn't you guys see some no name CB cover TO all night like they were attached at the hip?

 

[jman]

Lets face it... love him or hate him.... we are not using him as a weapon. I am not homering on TO. We just dont get him involved. Even if its a small game. He needs to be involved early. Motion him or something?

Once teams take him out of game(1st & 2nd qtr) we become very beatable.

He didnt just stop becoming productive. We are wasting him on this team.

Too much props for Romo spreading the ball around... he needs to use Owens more....

Dont give me stats or drops or whatever... we need more TO.

Yep...that's right. Too bad he can't play WR so he...wait...ohhhh, never mind.

 

[vlad]

I wonder why we aren't running more of the short slants and crossing patterns that we did in Jacksonville and that he has run throughout his career.

Let's be clear, he's not TG, a beautiful route runner with sticky hands, he's not Michael Irvin who you send on a 18 yard out and comeback routes because he can use his phenomenal hands and body to block out. He has throughout his career been a beast after the catch, crossing defenses, not sure why we don't do that.

 

[stealth]

TO had 49 catches and the closest guy to him is I think terry glenn is the second with like 29, thats since romo took over.
perception and reality are ussually different

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

TO had 49 catches and the closest guy to him is I think terry glenn is the second with like 29, thats since romo took over.
perception and reality are ussually different

Its more than just stats.

 

[WV Cowboy]

It is stupid to pay a WR big money and not use him.

You can call it feeding him the ball or whatever you want to call it, but why have him and why pay him if you aren't going to use what he does best ?

I don't care about his happiness, or his mood, I want to get him the ball early and often because he is a dangerous weapon.

Whether you hate him or not, you have to see that. He breaks tackles, he is physical, even if Norm (whoever that is) doesn't think so.

There is no reason to pay someone $10 million a year and then not get the ball to him a lot, ... why would we do that ?

He can be a sparkplug which ignites everything, I saw it in Carolina.

He did not touch the ball in the first half last night.

Do other teams do that with their stud WR ?

Barber had no touches in the first half either, and we stopped running even though they couldn't stop it.

 

[stealth]

Its more than just stats.

he has had the catches, he isn't breaking the big plays like I always thought he could, He used to would catch the ball and make a couple guys miss and be off to the races. The run by julius made me realize he hasn't lost a step he was out runnning everyone by a large margin on that play. he lays down on plays sometimes and runs out of bounds when I just don't think he should. He is now a good receiver instead of the great one I thought we were getting.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

It is stupid to pay a WR big money and not use him.

You can call it feeding him the ball or whatever you want to call it, but why have him and why pay him if you aren't going to use what he does best ?

I don't care about his happiness, or his mood, I want to get him the ball early and often because he is a dangerous weapon.

Whether you hate him or not, you have to see that. He breaks tackles, he is physical, even if Norm (whoever that is) doesn't think so.

There is no reason to pay someone $10 million a year and then not get the ball to him a lot, ... why would we do that ?

He can be a sparkplug which ignites everything, I saw it in Carolina.

He did not touch the ball in the first half last night.

Do other teams do that with their stud WR ?

Barber had no touches in the first half either, and we stopped running even though they couldn't stop it.

More what he said above /\ than what is being said below \/.

he has had the catches, he isn't breaking the big plays like I always thought he could, He used to would catch the ball and make a couple guys miss and be off to the races. The run by julius made me realize he hasn't lost a step he was out runnning everyone by a large margin on that play. he lays down on plays sometimes and runs out of bounds when I just don't think he should. He is now a good receiver instead of the great one I thought we were getting.

 

[Doomsday101]

It is stupid to pay a WR big money and not use him.

You can call it feeding him the ball or whatever you want to call it, but why have him and why pay him if you aren't going to use what he does best ?

I don't care about his happiness, or his mood, I want to get him the ball early and often because he is a dangerous weapon.

Whether you hate him or not, you have to see that. He breaks tackles, he is physical, even if Norm (whoever that is) doesn't think so.

There is no reason to pay someone $10 million a year and then not get the ball to him a lot, ... why would we do that ?

He can be a sparkplug which ignites everything, I saw it in Carolina.

He did not touch the ball in the first half last night.

Do other teams do that with their stud WR ?

Barber had no touches in the first half either, and we stopped running even though they couldn't stop it.

Evidently Romo did not feel he was getting open or else he would get him the ball and the fact is he does get the ball quite a bit but Romo would be stupid not getting the balls to the other weapons he has. Before last night we were on a good roll in large part because Romo was getting the ball to the open man just because we played poorly last night does not mean we should stop doing what will work.

 

[coogrfan]

http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2006&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=052

NFL Leaders: Targets (#Passes Thrown To) (Thru Dec. 10, 2006)

Rank Player Team Stats
1 Andre JohnsonHou 142
2t Donald DriverGB 133
2t Torry HoltStL133
4 Chris ChambersMia 131
5t Anquan BoldinAri 129
5t Chad JohnsonCin 129
5t Terrell OwensDal 129
8 Roy WilliamsDet 126
9 Laveranues ColesNYJ 125
10t Marvin HarrisonInd 119
10t Steve SmithCar 119
12t Mike FurreyDet 117
12t Keyshawn JohnsonCar 117
14 Reggie WayneInd 115
15 Lee EvansBuf 114
16 Darrell JacksonSea 112
17 Joey GallowayTB 111
18 Javon WalkerDen 106
19 Reggie BushNO 105
20 Antonio GatesSD 103

What more do you TO heads want?

 

[WV Cowboy]

Evidently Romo did not feel he was getting open or else he would get him the ball and the fact is he does get the ball quite a bit but Romo would be stupid not getting the balls to the other weapons he has. Before last night we were on a good roll in large part because Romo was getting the ball to the open man just because we played poorly last night does not mean we should stop doing what will work.

I'm not saying we should, I want balance. I just think we should use him early if he is making the big money.

Why not get him involved ?

If not, then the next thing you realize it's halftime and he and Barber have no touches.

That is mind-blowing to me, ... those two have been big lately and no touches ??

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

http://realfootball365.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2006&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=052

NFL Leaders: Targets (#Passes Thrown To) (Thru Dec. 10, 2006)

Rank Player Team Stats
1 Andre JohnsonHou 142
2t Donald DriverGB 133
2t Torry HoltStL133
4 Chris ChambersMia 131
5t Anquan BoldinAri 129
5t Chad JohnsonCin 129
5t Terrell OwensDal 129
8 Roy WilliamsDet 126
9 Laveranues ColesNYJ 125
10t Marvin HarrisonInd 119
10t Steve SmithCar 119
12t Mike FurreyDet 117
12t Keyshawn JohnsonCar 117
14 Reggie WayneInd 115
15 Lee EvansBuf 114
16 Darrell JacksonSea 112
17 Joey GallowayTB 111
18 Javon WalkerDen 106
19 Reggie BushNO 105
20 Antonio GatesSD 103

What more do you TO heads want?

I am not talking stats... thats like Mark Brunell completing 20 straight passes... werent they all just about 5 yard passes(sarcasm) but you get my point...

I am talking about the high percentage plays for TO do really do something.

Unlike the anti-TO's here I am talking production and not just "get TO the ball because its TO"... I am talking "get TO the ball the right way because its TO"

 

[WV Cowboy]

What more do you TO heads want?

I don't care about totals, Glenn can lead the team for all I care, I am just saying get him involved early, make teams deal with him.

I like Owens but I am not a TO head, you would do better not labeling people if you want to have civilized dialogue.

I want what is best for the Cowboys, I just think getting him started early puts pressure on the defenses.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I disagree, for the most part TO is very involved in the game plan but the last thing Romo needs to do is try and force feed TO when we have very good players outside of TO.

For most of last night, Owens was single covered by freaking Fred Thomas and couldn't get open.

He ain't all that.

Period.

But he's not why we lost the game-far from it. I should think folks would be more concerned today about the D than Owens getting his force feeding.