We had San Francisco up against the ropes

[CowboyoWales]

My response...........ya offense and defense of ours is really laughable!!!!
1st. Almost another pick 6
2nd. Inaccurate pass
3rd. Sacked with 5 sec available to him on his dropback....
THE END!!!!

Yep and similar to the previous year when the 'hurry up' offense also failed miserably. Now we can argue Moore has a part to play, and that we didnt have a running game but in those two games, in those scenario's, the onus (and ball) is on the QB.

It looks as if Dak struggle's when having to force the game late on, even the Eagles win in the 4th Q it took a 48 yrd FG and then a fumble on the 21 yard line.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

My response...........ya offense and defense of ours is really laughable!!!!
1st. Almost another pick 6
2nd. Inaccurate pass
3rd. Sacked with 5 sec available to him on his dropback....
THE END!!!!

can you count to 5? just wondering. prove it

 

[CowboyoWales]

can you count to 5? just wondering. prove it

Why bother, he made his point in 4.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why bother, he made his point in 4.

what point? I didn't know he has a point, given his history of posting is always pointless

 

[CowboyoWales]

what point? I didn't know he has a point, given his history of posting is always pointless

To be fair there wasn't anything to argue in the four points he made.
His points can be extreme and just as polarised to your own.....but both need to concede that the answer is somewhere in the middle. As soon as fans can accept Dak's flaws ( as @PAPPYDOG 's post highlights) we can move forward. The problem is Dak Denial (blame everyone else) gets us nowhere.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

To be fair there wasn't anything to argue in the four points he made.
His points can be extreme and just as polarised to your own.....but both need to concede that the answer is somewhere in the middle. As soon as fans can accept Dak's flaws ( as @PAPPYDOG 's post highlights) we can move forward. The problem is Dak Denial (blame everyone else) gets us nowhere.

no, but there is insinuation of something....right?

a casual NFL fan, with a bias/agenda would come to some conclusions. but a knowledgable observant football fan would look at the play and clearly see quite a few things that a casual fans reading final stats misses.

the niners attacked the line with 4 DL men, dropping 7 into coverage and in fact their 7 were back 7 yards deep in a line in the backfield. but that little tidbit is totally lost on him, and seemingly you, casual fans per se. that's ok. doesn't mean you don't enjoy the game. those type of fans are usually focused on the final stats of the game to draw often inaccurate conclusions given the ebbs/flows and strategies of the game is lost on them. again, that's ok. on the second play, the ball hit the WR in the hands, right above the defender, the only place the defender couldn't make a play and WR had a chance. Gallup didn't come down with the ball. Also, notice Gallup only had about one yard of separation....that far down field!, the QB expected him to be further down field, as the ball was leading him and if he was a step faster, he would have a clear run to the end zone...in reality, a coach would be OK with that play and wants the WR to get there sooner and faster....that was no inaccurate, but again to a casual fan and inclompletion means inaccurate, because the little neuances are lost ont hem.

...its 3rd point, 5 seconds available, was totally troll bait comment, he just looked at the start of clock, and play stop and commented. again, something an ill informed casual fan would say....because there wasn't 5 seconds elapsed in the play before the pocket collapsed and the sack happend. . thus it makes it a totally made up BS. again, knowing the poster and its agenda, I can understand why he would say that

but like I said, for someone with a TMZ agenda, it was just an OK post. poppy, almost never posts anything remotely related to actual football, because he understands his own limitations. rarely he ventures into anything actually football related and always misses the point and actually proves that he really doesn't understand football. he is a final stat guy and looking to be a troll to garner response and interaction. that's his role. that's what he enjoys. having learned that about him, in fact I enjoy engaging with him. he is funny

 

[CowboyoWales]

no, but there is insinuation of something....right?

a casual NFL fan, with a bias/agenda would come to some conclusions. but a knowledgable observant football fan would look at the play and clearly see quite a few things that a casual fans reading final stats misses.

the niners attacked the line with 4 DL men, dropping 7 into coverage and in fact their 7 were back 7 yards deep in a line in the backfield. but that little tidbit is totally lost on him, and seemingly you, casual fans per se. that's ok. doesn't mean you don't enjoy the game. those type of fans are usually focused on the final stats of the game to draw often inaccurate conclusions given the ebbs/flows and strategies of the game is lost on them. again, that's ok. on the second play, the ball hit the WR in the hands, right above the defender, the only place the defender couldn't make a play and WR had a chance. Gallup didn't come down with the ball. Also, notice Gallup only had about one yard of separation....that far down field!, the QB expected him to be further down field, as the ball was leading him and if he was a step faster, he would have a clear run to the end zone...in reality, a coach would be OK with that play and wants the WR to get there sooner and faster....that was no inaccurate, but again to a casual fan and inclompletion means inaccurate, because the little neuances are lost ont hem.

...its 3rd point, 5 seconds available, was totally troll bait comment, he just looked at the start of clock, and play stop and commented. again, something an ill informed casual fan would say....because there wasn't 5 seconds elapsed in the play before the pocket collapsed and the sack happend. . thus it makes it a totally made up BS. again, knowing the poster and its agenda, I can understand why he would say that

but like I said, for someone with a TMZ agenda, it was just an OK post. poppy, almost never posts anything remotely related to actual football, because he understands his own limitations. rarely he ventures into anything actually football related and always misses the point and actually proves that he really doesn't understand football. he is a final stat guy and looking to be a troll to garner response and interaction. that's his role. that's what he enjoys. having learned that about him, in fact I enjoy engaging with him. he is funny

Thank you for confirming my point, some fans just deflect all responsibility away from Dak, when the only constant , in those plays, is that the ball is in his hand's.
You've nitpicked blame away eg the Gallup drop .....a well thrown ball- debatable.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Thank you for confirming my point, some fans just deflect all responsibility away from Dak, when the only constant , in those plays, is that the ball is in his hand's.
You've nitpicked blame away eg the Gallup drop .....a well thrown ball- debatable.

no, I didn't take responsibility away from Dak. in fact the opposite, I have said many times that he has to play better and pointed to his mistakes. in fact I have said at least over a 100 times, Dak is not elite, although most like your self spend endless amounts of time trying to prove he is not elite...not sure why. seemingly to the Bash Dak crowd, if you don't explicitly call him out that means you are making excuses. I still dont' understand that immature mind set. my apologies. I don't have an agenda like some people

so you should have noticed, I didn't comment on the 1st point. or are you that naive that you wanted me to spell it out and state that it was a bad play. yes, it was a bad play. does it simplify it for you? I commented to the two false statements.

on the long pass, a 40 yard throw, just pause on the 2:52 mark, the ball in the air and gallup slows down and incorrectly turns his body the wrong way and looks back for the ball at the 50. if he continues his route and doesn't turn around as he did, he has an easy catch and run. that slow down allows the defender to make up the separation and make it difficult on Gallup. Could the throw have been a little better...maybe. but its far from an inaccurate throw...again observation from a casual fan with an agenda would make it that way...like I said at the end of the day, agenda driven comments have to drive a point to justify the agenda

again, small neuances that are lost on the casual fans

 

[CowboyoWales]

no, I didn't take responsibility away from Dak. in fact the opposite, I have said many times that he has to play better and pointed to his mistakes. in fact I have said at least over a 100 times, Dak is not elite, although most like your self spend endless amounts of time trying to prove he is not elite...not sure why. seemingly to the Bash Dak crowd, if you don't explicitly call him out that means you are making excuses. I still dont' understand that immature mind set. my apologies. I don't have an agenda like some people

so you should have noticed, I didn't comment on the 1st point. or are you that naive that you wanted me to spell it out and state that it was a bad play. yes, it was a bad play. does it simplify it for you? I commented to the two false statements.

on the long pass, a 40 yard throw, just pause on the 2:52 mark, the ball in the air and gallup slows down and incorrectly turns his body the wrong way and looks back for the ball at the 50. if he continues his route and doesn't turn around as he did, he has an easy catch and run. that slow down allows the defender to make up the separation and make it difficult on Gallup. Could the throw have been a little better...maybe. but its far from an inaccurate throw...again observation from a casual fan with an agenda would make it that way...like I said at the end of the day, agenda driven comments have to drive a point to justify the agenda

again, small neuances that are lost on the casual fans

Again your standpoint is evident, you'll give brief platitudes 'he's not elite' and then indepth defense of why its not his fault.
From us on the fence, Dak is a brilliant game manager when we've got a lead and a running game that takes the toll....chasing a game, when onus is on him (49ers x 2), is his kryptonite.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

To be fair there wasn't anything to argue in the four points he made.
His points can be extreme and just as polarised to your own.....but both need to concede that the answer is somewhere in the middle. As soon as fans can accept Dak's flaws ( as @PAPPYDOG 's post highlights) we can move forward. The problem is Dak Denial (blame everyone else) gets us nowhere.

I will never accept my beloved team being held in playoff purgatory by Dak or any QB that has or will play the position in the future.
See with guys like myself its TEAM first then everything else.
Why should I have to accept Dak and his flaws esp after 28 years of hunger?
Why should the defense sacrifice and have it all wasted due to those DAK FLAWS????
No Sir, TEAM 1st, and the sooner that imposter of a QB1 leaves us the better!!!

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Yep and similar to the previous year when the 'hurry up' offense also failed miserably. Now we can argue Moore has a part to play, and that we didnt have a running game but in those two games, in those scenario's, the onus (and ball) is on the QB.

It looks as if Dak struggle's when having to force the game late on, even the Eagles win in the 4th Q it took a 48 yrd FG and then a fumble on the 21 yard line.

Moore is another scapegoat with MM being the next in line.
Dak Friendly has taken down many players and coaches.......

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Again your standpoint is evident, you'll give brief platitudes 'he's not elite' and then indepth defense of why its not his fault.
From us on the fence, Dak is a brilliant game manager when we've got a lead and a running game that takes the toll....chasing a game, when onus is on him (49ers x 2), is his kryptonite.

what platitudes? again, to the dak bashers, if anyone doesn't vehemently bash every single play and generalize, then they are making excuses, because Gawd knows, every single throw of every game in the past 7 years has been just a long collection of bad inaccurate throws. all 3282 attempts and if any catches are made, its because the WR had to controt like a circus magician, or have 15 inch hands to be able to make those catches, because Dak is inexcusably unable to make a single throw.

Tell me where I am wrong.

and your very last statement sums up all the Dak bashers in a nice little bundle. all that effort made to prove Dak is not elite. well duh. don't your waste your time trying to prove that. its a well known fact that everyone agrees.

so not sure what tree your trying to crawl up against, but you are wasting your time to prove something that's already well known. its like a dog chasing his tails.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

To be fair there wasn't anything to argue in the four points he made.
His points can be extreme and just as polarised to your own.....but both need to concede that the answer is somewhere in the middle. As soon as fans can accept Dak's flaws ( as @PAPPYDOG 's post highlights) we can move forward. The problem is Dak Denial (blame everyone else) gets us nowhere.

If only your wisdom was imparted on the person you were talking to, along with one other. We would all be better off, even them.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

what platitudes? again, to the dak bashers, if anyone doesn't vehemently bash every single play and generalize, then they are making excuses, because Gawd knows, every single throw of every game in the past 7 years has been just a long collection of bad inaccurate throws. all 3282 attempts and if any catches are made, its because the WR had to controt like a circus magician, or have 15 inch hands to be able to make those catches, because Dak is inexcusably unable to make a single throw.

Tell me where I am wrong.

and your very last statement sums up all the Dak bashers in a nice little bundle. all that effort made to prove Dak is not elite. well duh. don't your waste your time trying to prove that. its a well known fact that everyone agrees.

so not sure what tree your trying to crawl up against, but you are wasting your time to prove something that's already well known. its like a dog chasing his tails.

He's been telling you where you are wrong and you just keep on ranting. What good would anything else do?

 

[CowboyoWales]

what platitudes? again, to the dak bashers, if anyone doesn't vehemently bash every single play and generalize, then they are making excuses, because Gawd knows, every single throw of every game in the past 7 years has been just a long collection of bad inaccurate throws. all 3282 attempts and if any catches are made, its because the WR had to controt like a circus magician, or have 15 inch hands to be able to make those catches, because Dak is inexcusably unable to make a single throw.

Tell me where I am wrong.

and your very last statement sums up all the Dak bashers in a nice little bundle. all that effort made to prove Dak is not elite. well duh. don't your waste your time trying to prove that. its a well known fact that everyone agrees.

so not sure what tree your trying to crawl up against, but you are wasting your time to prove something that's already well known. its like a dog chasing his tails.

Dak Bashers....do you see me as being akin to @PAPPYDOG ???? I'm nothing like, but it's easy for some to lump everyone that has any concern as a Basher/Hater

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He's been telling you where you are wrong and you just keep on ranting. What good would anything else do?

I am not the one ranting. he is the one ranting about me not bashing dak. follow the thread my son.

 

[Playmaker3128]

The dak int before halftime killed the game. Even if we run out the clock there and miss a fg it would have been ok…. But for some reason we threw the ball… didn’t take time off the clock… and sf came down and scored.

That was a huge momentum swing. That was on dak and KM.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak Bashers....do you see me as being akin to @PAPPYDOG ???? I'm nothing like, but it's easy for some to lump everyone that has any concern as a Basher/Hater

oooh, is there a disagreements among the ranks. you don't want to associate yourself with Pappy...yet you jumped to his defense, praising his comment and defending him.

and its funny, you get upset with me calling you a basher, yet you pointed fingers at me right off the bat as one of those who makes excuses for dak.

the pot calling the kettle black!?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The dak int before halftime killed the game. Even if we run out the clock there and miss a fg it would have been ok…. But for some reason we threw the ball… didn’t take time off the clock… and sf came down and scored.

That was a huge momentum swing. That was on dak and KM.

great point. stupid call. followed by stupid execution. perhaps that's what MM refers to as running the damn ball....meaning running the damn ball at crucial times to manage the game. given the momentum of the game at the time. the defensive battle. going for it at that time was not the right call.

 

[dckid]

NFL Network is airing the 2022 Confernce game right now.

Man we had them until Pollard got injured. Dirty tackle also. Can't believe a bigger deal wasn't made out of that by the league.

Defense held that SF offense to 6 points up until that point. SF was rolling through everyone before that game.

We had them.......

To me the biggest take away way was we don't have enough on offense.
Pollard going down shouldn't be the same as Irvin getting injured against Carolina in the 96 playoff divisional game.
This team lacks weapons and I think they still do especially in the modern NFL. We should be going after Hopkins, I think we should have signed a RB like Penny or Damien Harris, both of these RB's signed for pennies.
The offense needs move diversity of playmakers and of course Dak made some boneheaded mistakes in that game, which just is not acceptable.
Oh yeah sign a kicker, why have we not signed Gould yet?