We Had the Worst Defense in the NFL Last Year and we haven't improved it

[GiveDezdaBall88]

We don't have a pass rush with horrible LB's and a secondary that was gashed last year. We def can be worses.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I thought McClain was suppose to be all world if he can keep his head screwed on straight that is.

 

[erod]

Anthony Spencer, Tyrone Crawford, and Ben Bass were all on the roster last year at this time. Josh Brent is a pipe dream. The other guys at the bottom of your list were on the roster last year. There is a huge lack of depth on the defensive side of the ball, and we haven't even looked at the mess at safety and linebacker.

Who cares if they were on the roster if they were on IR all season?

You don't think last year's defense would have been better with Spencer, Crawford, Bass, and Ratliff? Especially with the useless Ware gimping around all year. And Melton is a better player than Hatcher all day long.

What mess do you see at safety? Church, Wilcox, and Hamilton look good. They brought in McClain to replace Lee, and if his head is right, he's frankly better than Lee.

I'm not saying this will be a dominant defense, but it will be vastly better than last year. It's an entirely different squad.

 

[erod]

We don't have a pass rush with horrible LB's and a secondary that was gashed last year. We def can be worses.

You know zero about football. Done.

 

[jazzcat22]

did zilch to improve it. Is Jerrah just playing a cruel joke on us?

Who is Jerrah? Did JERRY sell the team, is this breaking news?

 

[DallasEast]

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I'm going to say... disgust..?​

 

[CyberB0b]

Who cares if they were on the roster if they were on IR all season?
You don't think last year's defense would have been better with Spencer, Crawford, Bass, and Ratliff? Especially with the useless Ware gimping around all year. And Melton is a better player than Hatcher all day long.

Because it is disingenuous hyperbole on your part to say they "added" 10 players, when you start listing a bunch of guys already on the roster.

What mess do you see at safety? Church, Wilcox, and Hamilton look good. They brought in McClain to replace Lee, and if his head is right, he's frankly better than Lee.

I'm not saying this will be a dominant defense, but it will be vastly better than last year. It's an entirely different squad.

If you don't see a mess at safety, I don't know what to tell you. Church is a decent player, but there is a huge void in talent after that. Wilcox was less than impressive last year, and so was Hamilton.

McClain is better than Lee? HAHAHA that is a good one. McClain hasn't played football in nearly two years.

 

[GiveDezdaBall88]

Who cares if they were on the roster if they were on IR all season?

You don't think last year's defense would have been better with Spencer, Crawford, Bass, and Ratliff? Especially with the useless Ware gimping around all year. And Melton is a better player than Hatcher all day long.

What mess do you see at safety? Church, Wilcox, and Hamilton look good. They brought in McClain to replace Lee, and if his head is right, he's frankly better than Lee.

I'm not saying this will be a dominant defense, but it will be vastly better than last year. It's an entirely different squad.

Lmao, one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

 

[viman96]

Because it is disingenuous hyperbole on your part to say they "added" 10 players, when you start listing a bunch of guys already on the roster.

The OP is full of hyperbole. He said Jerry did nothing for the defense which cannot be further from the truth. Whether you or the OP agrees with what was done does not change the fact additions were made.

 

[CyberB0b]

The OP is full of hyperbole. He said Jerry did nothing for the defense which cannot be further from the truth. Whether you or the OP agrees with what was done does not change the fact additions were made.

Yes, but I was specifically addressing his statement of 10 or 11 players added to the defensive line. That was not factual.

 

[jazzcat22]

Yes, but I was specifically addressing his statement of 10 or 11 players added to the defensive line. That was not factual.

12 players, if you count those returning from IR.
9 new, through FA, draft, UDFA.

I say that's close enough in saying 10 or 11.

Also added 3 LB's, and 6 DB's

 

[erod]

Lmao, one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

The proper grammar and punctuation must have thrown you off.

 

[erod]

Because it is disingenuous hyperbole on your part to say they "added" 10 players, when you start listing a bunch of guys already on the roster.



If you don't see a mess at safety, I don't know what to tell you. Church is a decent player, but there is a huge void in talent after that. Wilcox was less than impressive last year, and so was Hamilton.

McClain is better than Lee? HAHAHA that is a good one. McClain hasn't played football in nearly two years.

Yes, because all safeties are just awesome their first year in the league. Are you kidding me?

McClain was a top 10 pick and he's still a kid. This isn't some aging veteran coming off of injuries. I qualified it by saying he had to have his head right. He is physically dominant, one of the best college linebackers I've ever seen in my many years of watching football.

As far as the d-line, you lost that one already, so I'm done there. Entirely different group, and now it's wait-and-see.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Draft players that don't always get hurt, ppl are surrpised when Sean Lee gets injured. Dude has never played a full season in his career; our drafts have been pitiful. WE should have drafted quality players instead we draft trash like Matt Johnson, victor butler, etcc.

Just to be clear, so I'm not on the wrong page here, then you're saying that Smith, Bryant, Frederick, Martin, Williams are all trash and not quality players? I'm just making sure since you said we should have drafted quality players, thus indicating we've drafted none.

 

[Hostile]

that is like asking if there are different grades of DOG CRAP.

Is it burm? Where did I defend our D? If you open your eyes, and look at the last line I didn't.

If, you open them...

 

[Hostile]

in yards allowed with 415.3 per game we were 32nd. Thats the stat they refer to when they say we were the worst defense. 415 yards on average? In comparison Seattle who had the best defense only allowed 274.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...OTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

Would rather give up more yards or more points?

 

[Hostile]

Yards allowed is a terrible way to measure defense. Points allowed is a better, but still bad, way to measure defense.

We allowed 2.31 points per defensive drive, which was 30th in the league. There's a tightly bunched group of 6 teams from 25th to 30th. The Bears and Atlanta, at 31 and 32, were much worse. So that's probably the most appropriate assessment: bottom quarter, but not historically bad.

What worries me is that the takeaways dried up as the season went on. We had 19 in the first 8 games, and 9 in the second 8 games. The takeaways were helping to keep all those yards from turning into points. You'd rather a see the performance trending up intra-season than trending down, in terms of projecting forward into the next season.

Either way, we stunk out loud. But I just don't really agree with we were the worst.

 

[Risen Star]

The defensive roster is an embarrassment. There's just no other way to describe it. A ton of JAGs and nary an impact player among them.

Tom Ciscowski should be ashamed of himself.

 

[brucekr]

Either way, we stunk out loud. But I just don't really agree with we were the worst.

Being the worst and being 5th from the worst is like splitting hairs though, bossman. I'm too lazy to look into it more, but if dallas' offense was atrocious as the Raiders, we would have been bottom of the barrel on defense, even moreso than we were. A decent offense can mask/protect a horrid defense.

Be that as it may, I'm hopeful and casually optimistic about this year.

 

[Hostile]

Being the worst and being 5th from the worst is like splitting hairs though, bossman. I'm too lazy to look into it more, but if dallas' offense was atrocious as the Raiders, we would have been bottom of the barrel on defense, even moreso than we were. A decent offense can mask/protect a horrid defense.

Be that as it may, I'm hopeful and casually optimistic about this year.

Since I am already "splitting hairs", 7th worst. 6 allowed more points.

Okay, so by that same token, if our Defense could have improved by say 70 points, would you also say that we could have had anywhere from 2 to 4 more wins and been a very good team? Because after all, our Offense was among the best in the NFL. Although I do think that being 7th and being 1st isn't splitting hairs given how good Denver was.