We have failed as Cowboys fans

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I'm curious of what you think a major influx of Cowboy fans voicing their concerns on this subject NOW will do for anybody.
Do you honestly believe it will be the cause for change? That the NFL will cave because Cowboys fans tell them what happened was a travesty?
And then what? What will they do? Give them last year's SB? Give them an extra win to begin the season?

Give them a Draft pick? I'm going to call because I enjoy such things, but really: What's your best case scenario?

I'm truly curious.

Not curious enough to read what I've written repeatedly. Get Dean Blandino fired. Get the rule abolished. Two feet in bounds with possession is simple. Keep it that way. Anything else lets the former comedian who is thousands of miles away TAMPER with the outcome of the game because of it. That cannot be the norm for the 2015 season.
 

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No, not at all, it continues to be a terribly worded rule. It's not over. It could happen again. Dean Blandino is still the VP of officiating.

It's not done with, it's just beginning, really.

move on dead issue.
 

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Not curious enough to read what I've written repeatedly. Get Dean Blandino fired. Get the rule abolished. Two feet in bounds with possession is simple. Keep it that way. Anything else lets the former comedian who is thousands of miles away TAMPER with the outcome of the game because of it. That cannot be the norm for the 2015 season.

You believe an influx of Cowboys fans calling in to the NFL will get Blandino fired and a rule abolished? And stop league tampering, if it's happening?
I love Idealists, but I look upon naivety in a different light. What are you attempting to realistically do here?

Let me FYI you on something: I used to work for the L.A. Times back in 2001 and then You-Know-What happened and then you know what happened?
We all got fired. Anyone with a dissenting voice and balls got cut from the Bull. I was there. I was a victim. I lost my UCLA scholarship over it.

No reciprocity. None will be expected. I will flood this vmail box because I like to fight the Fight, but I know me voice won't only NOT be listened to, it will not be heard.
It will not be heard. Some posters here have said pee'ing into the wind... it is.

Maybe it's the Dripping Spring's Vodka rambling here... Never mind me. I'm going to go jump in my neighbor's pool without her knowledge...
Be back in a bit.
 

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You believe an influx of Cowboys fans calling in to the NFL will get Blandino fired and a rule abolished? And stop league tampering, if it's happening?
I love Idealists, but I look upon naivety in a different light. What are you attempting to realistically do here?

Let me FYI you on something: I used to work for the L.A. Times back in 2001 and then You-Know-What happened and then you know what happened?
We all got fired. Anyone with a dissenting voice and balls got cut from the Bull. I was there. I was a victim. I lost my UCLA scholarship over it.

No reciprocity. None will be expected. I will flood this vmail box because I like to fight the Fight, but I know me voice won't only NOT be listened to, it will not be heard.
It will not be heard. Some posters here have said pee'ing into the wind... it is.

Maybe it's the Dripping Spring's Vodka rambling here... Never mind me. I'm going to go jump in my neighbor's pool without her knowledge...
Be back in a bit.

L. A. Times, huh? Any chance that you could find some dirt on Dean Blandino, perhaps?
 

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No, it negatively affects every team, it ruins the integrity of the game, when a clear catch is overruled based on gibberish.
Unfortunately for you, there aren't a whole heckuva lot of people outside the Metroplex who consider it a "clear catch."
 

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We have failed as Cowboy fans if we do not FLOOD the NFL's comment line, 1-212-450-2000, swamp their email inbox, and stack their facebook page with absolute outrage over them taking away an absolute CATCH by Dez Bryant in the playoffs, in front of millions watching the game. If Dean Blandino gets fired, we have done our job.

What if Romo and Witten never see a Super Bowl simply because an incompetent sits in the league's officiating office, Dean Blandino?

The so called Calvin Johnson rule is full of gibberish about "completing the process " without EVER defining what conditions complete that. Furthermore, in the offseason, they made the rule more vague than before, just to double down on stupidity.

I'm telling you, the ONLY NFL definition of completing the process is DOWN BY CONTACT. And Dez was DOWN BY CONTACT before the ball ever came out. Never mind the 6 football moves he made, which made it a catch well before that, and all the other stuff you've undoubtedly heard before.

I'm still white hot angry over that blatant tampering, I plead with you, make a call today!

Hey man and stuff take a deep breaf and do the downward bear killingdog pose and then drink a Shiner beer. I used to worry about the earth currency disaster but now I am just consumped with apathy it will work for you i hope.

Hey Hardy is the face of the cowboys. what fun.
 

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No doubt it was a catch and the rule should've been changed. Trust me I did my fair share of complaining on twitter and to anyone who would listen at the time.
 

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Unfortunately for you, there aren't a whole heckuva lot of people outside the Metroplex who consider it a "clear catch."

Complete lie. 90% of football fans know it was a catch, and it will come to burn the other teams and convert the 10% at some point. Then they'll realize how subjective a catch has become. The NFL cannot have loose vague terms describe a blurry picture of when a catch can be taken away. That's the way it stands for the 2015 season, and I am going to destroy that.
 

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No doubt it was a catch and the rule should've been changed. Trust me I did my fair share of complaining on twitter and to anyone who would listen at the time.

Good! I'm never giving up. It's going to be drip, drip water torture for the NFL, for all time, until they buckle. They will. If we get everyone mobilized, they will buckle faster.
 

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Complete lie. 90% of football fans know it was a catch, and it will come to burn the other teams and convert the 10% at some point. Then they'll realize how subjective a catch has become. The NFL cannot have loose vague terms describe a blurry picture of when a catch can be taken away. That's the way it stands for the 2015 season, and I am going to destroy that.
What source ran the survey that determined 90% of football fans decided it was a catch? I doubt it was the NFL. Was it dallascowboys.com? SI? CNN? ESPN? YahooSports? FoxSports? NBCSports? Who? Or is it possible the source may be the same one some people get their information and cite it as true?

Namely, their butt.
 

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This will not be the first time that we fans have failed. We bear the greatest share of responsibility for this franchise's performance over the past decade. No way to get around it.

"Share"?
You are too kind Sir
We as fans are obviously directly responsible for the failures of this team
 

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Complete lie. 90% of football fans know it was a catch, and it will come to burn the other teams and convert the 10% at some point. Then they'll realize how subjective a catch has become. The NFL cannot have loose vague terms describe a blurry picture of when a catch can be taken away. That's the way it stands for the 2015 season, and I am going to destroy that.
You're either lying or have no clue. The vast majority of fans outside Dallas do not believe it was a catch according to the rules in place at the time.

Sorry, but public sentiment outside the Metroplex is not on your side.
 

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Not curious enough to read what I've written repeatedly. Get Dean Blandino fired. Get the rule abolished. Two feet in bounds with possession is simple.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely NOTHING about this rule which is "simple" nor is it possible to phrase the rule in such a way to make it "simple". It is literally impossible to craft the rule in a manner which will satisfy all the people all the time.

If you try to make the rule simple, it will be too ambiguous and people will argue what is or isn't a catch forever and ever. If you try to remove the ambiguity, you'll have an extremely complicated rule, and people will argue what is or isn't a catch forever and ever.
 

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You're either lying or have no clue. The vast majority of fans outside Dallas do not believe it was a catch according to the rules in place at the time.

Sorry, but public sentiment outside the Metroplex is not on your side.
You are just as bad as Nathan. He says 90%. You say vast majority. Neither one of you back up your respective claims. However, that is a nice disclaimer you added by saying "according to the rules in place at the time" by the way.
 

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You are just as bad as Nathan. He says 90%. You say vast majority.
If you go outside this forum and read what other fans and media members wrote on the subject, you'd see I am right.
However, that is a nice disclaimer you added by saying "according to the rules in place at the time" by the way.
This is a rule that has changed many times over the years. What, are we supposed to apply the rules in place in 1973 to a game played in January, 2015?
 

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You are just as bad as Nathan. He says 90%. You say vast majority. Neither one of you back up your respective claims. However, that is a nice disclaimer you added by saying "according to the rules in place at the time" by the way.

Rogah always claims he knows what the "vast majority" of the NFL fans are thinking. That goes back to well...it goes back.

Funny.
 

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If you go outside this forum and read what other fans and media members wrote on the subject, you'd see I am right.
And what does that prove? Do you understand what the words vast and majority mean? How about words like verifiable and quantifiable? "Go outside the forum" you say and read opinions. Dude. Do you understand that making claims like "vast majority" should be based upon numbers and no abstract quotations made on Internet sites?
This is a rule that has changed many times over the years. What, are we supposed to apply the rules in place in 1973 to a game played in January, 2015?
smh. You made a claim and tried to substantiate it with a statement about the rule INSTEAD OF simply saying people thought it was or wasn't a catch. It will serve as a nice fallback for you if someone counters that the rule itself is flawed. I have no clue why you went on the 1973 tangent.
 

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Now for something remotely approaching measurably verifiable info although VERY unscientific. Here are links to Internet polls asking questions about the catch and/or the rule:

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...ch-controversial-dez-bryant-play-reversed.ece
http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/01/did_dez_bryant_really_make_tha.html
http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/..._rule_after_dez_bryant_catch_controversy.html
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/01/dallas_cowboys_vs_green_bay_pa_9.html
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-dez-bryant-catch-ruling-20150112-htmlstory.html
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/01/12/morning-show-poll-dez-bryant-catch-or-no-catch/
http://www.silive.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/01/poll_should_the_complicated_nf.html

There. Any claims made from these sources will still be weak because the polls aren't scientific but they do employ some degree of collective measurability--not unorganized opinion assumptions.

You're welcome.
 
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