We have the best secondary in the league.

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Not at all crazy about the draft but I absolutely loved the Deangelo Smith and Mike Mickens picks. Those guys can be bookends for the next 5-10 years just by themselves. I was just thinking about how disgusting our secondary is. I put it up against every team and I can't find a team that really compares. The Eagles make a good case though. I know we have two "rookies" but they were absolute STEALS and are above average corners.

Newman- Top 10 corner in this league. You can make a case he's top 5 when he's at the top of his game. True shutdown probowl caliber corner.

Jenkins-Started to come on late, andcan lock down recievers and be left on an island in coverage. Another year is just going to make him better. I see pro-bowl in the next 2 years or so for him.

Scandrick-One of, in not the best slot corners in the NFL. Could start on half of the teams in the NFL. Very good tackler for his size and sticks on the slot reciever like glue!

Deangelo Smith-Only a rookie but being a dime corner will allow him to not be thrown to the wolves right away. Is he a corner or safety? Either way he's got great talent and instincts. He's our 4th corner! He could start on this team if asked. He's that good!

Mike Mickens- Jerry needs to go to prison because he just committed grand theft larceny. Being the 5th corner will allow him to go on IR this year and come back full force next year. I've actually see reports that he'll be ready for minicamp. Everywhere I look he has a 2nd-3rd round grade. Reminds me alot of Scandrick. Speedy quick guy that can play in the slot or outside. Part the Cincy CB tandem with Deangelo. He was a finalist for the Thorp Award!(best corner in college) and he's our 5th corner!

Ken Hamlin- Some people on here like to bash him but I think he's an above average FS. He had a down year last year but he played lights out in 07. If he can get back to the 07 Hamlin then we're in good shape.

Sensy- The wildcard in all of this. Played on a less than talented defense last year with the Jags but has insane measurables. Athletic freak and with a pass rush like the Cowboys have he'll be able to make plays at SS. Can lay the lumber and also had 4 picks last year.

Micheal Hamlin- I actually liked this pick for the value. The law firm of Hamlin and Hamlin back in the secondary. Very servicable backup with starter potential. His game resembles Ken Hamlin alot with being a punishing hitter and fairly good cover guy. He'll be backing up Sensy and if he starts than that means he beat outt Sensy,which is saying ALOT as a rookie. Probably play 10-15 snaps a game in packages and formations.

We were 5th in pass defense last year and we actually got BETTER through this draft. Not to mention Newman missing 9 games last year. It's going to be extremely difficult to pass on us mixed with the pass rush.

Thoughts?
 

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The two other guys that will help our pass defense include J. Williams and S Hodge, IMO.

I'd expect J Williams to be our nickel LB, and he will beat out Carpenter, IMO. Williams should be very good in coverage for obvious reasons.

I also think Hodge can potentially be used close to the LOS, he can also blitz from the SS/LB position, and he can cover RBs out of the backfield as well. He's really physical. I kind of see him as an in the box SS who's very aggressive.
 

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Two things: 1) Could we maybe see a couple of these guys play first before we break out the "anointing Oil"? By the way Jenkins hasnt set the world on fire yet as far as I'm concerned.

2) Newman is as about as durable as cellophane. He is in his 30's and on the downside. The chances of him starting 16 games are about the same as "W" getting a third term.
 

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This sounds very familar.

I think I remember we all said this last season too.

I am not calling anything about this team 'best in the league' at all this season.

I am tired of doing that.

This season isn't about talk. It's about the walk as far as I am concerned.
 

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Too early to say the 'best' of anything just yet when it comes to a group of players at any position.

You can perhaps get away with saying we have the best 'TE' and 'OLB' in the league but only because they have proven themselves.
 

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Not even close. We have one standout player in the secondary. The rest are a mixture of unknown rookies, promising yet unproven 2nd year guys, and a bunch of JAGs, including Ken Hamlin.

It's not even the best secondary in our own division.
 

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dcfanatic;2753213 said:
This sounds very familar.

I think I remember we all said this last season too.

I am not calling anything about this team 'best in the league' at all this season.

I am tired of doing that.

This season isn't about talk. It's about the walk as far as I am concerned.


I agree with that. I'm not going to buy into any hype, I'm just going to wait and see what unfolds.
 

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RS12;2753211 said:
By the way Micheal "Ooh, somebody's running right at me I better jump outta the way"Jenkins hasnt set the world on fire yet as far as I'm concerned.

2) Newman is as about as durable as cellophane. He is in his 30's and on the downside. The chances of him starting 16 games are about the same as "W" getting a third term.

I went ahead and fixed that for you, no extra charge.
 

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Double Trouble;2753223 said:
Not even close. We have one standout player in the secondary. The rest are a mixture of unknown rookies, promising yet unproven 2nd year guys, and a bunch of JAGs, including Ken Hamlin.

It's not even the best secondary in our own division.

I agree, the Iggles have the best secondary in football. The Boys should be in the top half dozen by season's end though.
 

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I never "annoint", I just call it like I see it. I claimed we would have a top 5 passing defense last year at this time and we had our best corner out for half the season along with Pacman only playing in 7 games, and yet we still were 5th in the league. We will be first or second in passing defense this year. I only make bold statements when I know I'm right. Check back at this thread in 9 months.
 

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If you want to know why alternative sites like DCC exist, look no further than this post.
 

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alancdc;2753260 said:
Seemed we said this before last years season as well.

And we ended up with the 5th best passing defence too. "Didn't help us win a playoff game".... yeah I know the inevitable response....
 

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wonder where some stupid posters get the idea that Newman is injury prone?
Of course we have some regular stupid posters who think the same.
 

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alancdc;2753260 said:
Seemed we said this before last years season as well.

And yet we were 5th in the league. We played with two rookies,Ball and Killa in the seconday majority of the year.

We added two very good corners and Scandrick and Jenkins are only going to get better. And aTwo safeties that are very good and better than RW and Killa. Am I REALLY out of line if I think we'll have a better secondary?. Use some logic before you just spit out one liners and try to be cute.
 
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