We may not have Belichick as an option

[Ring6]

Go Dukes

 

[plasticman]

Landry was done. He simply couldn't make the transition this time. Happens. Doesn't take anything away from his greatness.

And it's ok for people having different opinions. I don't want BB here and hope for a fresh young mind. But that's just me. Relax.

Then why is it that half of what we STILL see when we watch an NFL game was invented by Tom Landry?

Tom Landry invented the 4-3 defense.

Tom Landry invented pre-snap motion.

Tom Landry invented passing from the shotgun.

They said the same thing about Tom Landry, when the Cowboys went 8-6 in 1974.... The veterans were all retiring......the team had a good run but now it was over.......They will need about five years to rebuild.....

The Cowboys were back in the Super Bowl in 1975

One of the most underrated attributes of Tom Landry was his ability to teach. He taught future Super Bowl coaches like Mike Ditka and Dan Reeves.

They drafted Michael Irvin before Jimmy Johnson's arrival. Half of the O-line that contributed to 3 Super Bowls were there before him, Kevin Gogan , Nate Newton, Mark Tuinei.

It was obvious that the Cowboys were going to draft Troy Aikman. Tex wanted to give him jersey #12. Tom landry was working on a new defense, a hybrid of the 4-3 and 3-4.

Jimmy was a great coach, there is no denying what he did for us and this franchise but Tom Landry didn't have those three losing seasons because the game passed him by or he suddenly forgot how to coach.

The Cowboys were simply the victims of the parity created by the NFL draft. As I previously stated, 20 consecutive winning seasons, 16 of them double digit wins plus five Super Bowls put them in the bottom 3rd of the draft every year.

Give Landry credit, it took 20 years of drafting at the bottom for the Cowboys to experience a losing season.

 

[fansince68]

Thank God! This team needs new talent on the field and front office.

 

[Risen Star]

We are being lapped. By college teams.

 

[CowboysRule]

who wants a 72 year old coach?

insufferable that the NFL loves retreads so much.

Good luck to him on the college level, its a totally different game

Yeah, i bet KC really regrets hiring retread Andy Reid.

 

[gimmesix]

Then why is it that half of what we STILL see when we watch an NFL game was invented by Tom Landry?

Tom Landry invented the 4-3 defense.

Tom Landry invented pre-snap motion.

Tom Landry invented passing from the shotgun.

They said the same thing about Tom Landry, when the Cowboys went 8-6 in 1974.... The veterans were all retiring......the team had a good run but now it was over.......They will need about five years to rebuild.....

The Cowboys were back in the Super Bowl in 1975

One of the most underrated attributes of Tom Landry was his ability to teach. He taught future Super Bowl coaches like Mike Ditka and Dan Reeves.

They drafted Michael Irvin before Jimmy Johnson's arrival. Half of the O-line that contributed to 3 Super Bowls were there before him, Kevin Gogan , Nate Newton, Mark Tuinei.

It was obvious that the Cowboys were going to draft Troy Aikman. Tex wanted to give him jersey #12. Tom landry was working on a new defense, a hybrid of the 4-3 and 3-4.

Jimmy was a great coach, there is no denying what he did for us and this franchise but Tom Landry didn't have those three losing seasons because the game passed him by or he suddenly forgot how to coach.

The Cowboys were simply the victims of the parity created by the NFL draft. As I previously stated, 20 consecutive winning seasons, 16 of them double digit wins plus five Super Bowls put them in the bottom 3rd of the draft every year.

Give Landry credit, it took 20 years of drafting at the bottom for the Cowboys to experience a losing season.

The main thing is that Landry failed find his next QB. Danny White was close but turned the ball over too much. Then, came, Carano, Hogeboom and Pelleur; no one was going to win with them.

Things might have turned out differently for Landry if we had drafted Joe Montana when we had the chance.

“Here’s our pick, and there’s Joe Montana’s name at the top. And I remember Tom Landry saying, ‘Well we have three quarterbacks better than him right now.’ In other words, why would want to take him? He was talking about Roger Staubach who as about to go into his final season with the Cowboys and nobody knew that. He was 37 at that point and a young 37 because he spent four years in the navy before he started in the NFL. It was Staubach, the backup quarterback was Danny White and the third quarterback was a guy named Glenn Carano.”

Carano was a second round pick from the 1977 draft, from UNLV. He was the wildcard.

“Cowboys didn’t know really what the had with him. He was a highly rated talent, a second round pick, so in Tom Landry’s mind, we have three guys better than this guy ranked in the third round, Joe Montana. So we took a pass.”

 

[Hardline]

Dallas Cowboys<UNC

 

[StuckMojo]

Maybe his girlfriend is enrolling at UNC

 

[CTcowboy203]

My earlier comment about bb hating the recruiting process still stands but if they are willing to guarantee his son is the next head coach- I can see him overlooking that negative to ensure his son is taken care of.

However, still think this is just to stay in the loop and he passes

 

[plasticman]

The main thing is that Landry failed find his next QB. Danny White was close but turned the ball over too much. Then, came, Carano, Hogeboom and Pelleur; no one was going to win with them.

Things might have turned out differently for Landry if we had drafted Joe Montana when we had the chance.


Carano was a second round pick from the 1977 draft, from UNLV. He was the wildcard.

But there was no doubt that Tex was going to take Aikman. Landry even went to one of his games.

 

[gimmesix]

But there was no doubt that Tex was going to take Aikman. Landry even went to one of his games.

Right. But by then, it was obviously too late. The ship had sailed for Landry. He was out the door whether it was Jones who had to bumble through the firing or someone else. He hitched his wagon to QBs who proved they really didn't even belong on an NFL field and it cost him.

I don't know if Landry could have gotten it turned around with Aikman, but plenty of good coaches have been sunk by bad QB play. Belichick suddenly became mortal when he no longer had Brady, and the same happened to Landry when Staubach retired. To Tom's credit, he fared better with White than Belichick did with Mac Jones (but frankly, those teams that White lost with in the early 1980s were still mostly made up of players that Staubach won with in the 1970s ... they were on the decline, though, so we went downhill from there in the early to mid-80s).

If the Cowboys had drafted Montana, we might have seen Landry's success continue without much of a bump in the road. It wasn't like he suddenly forgot how to coach when the clock hit 1980.

 

[FVSTONE]

Bill is grasping for straws as he sees doors that would normally be open to him closing at an alarming rate. Personally, I don't believe Bill would have been that successful if he didn't have Brady as his wingman. Since the two have separated only Brady has gone on to have success, whereas Bill is now bagging for college jobs to try and stay relevant in the world of football. Bill is not the answer to the Cowboy's problems..............

 

[xwalker]

If Jerry can't get a buddy as head coach, he's probably extending McCarthy.

I'm really worried about a Kellen Moore or even Garrett (can you imagine?) hire .

Jerry had no connections to McCarthy when he was hired...

 

[gtb1943]

Bill is grasping for straws as he sees doors that would normally be open to him closing at an alarming rate. Personally, I don't believe Bill would have been that successful if he didn't have Brady as his wingman. Since the two have separated only Brady has gone on to have success, whereas Bill is now bagging for college jobs to try and stay relevant in the world of football. Bill is not the answer to the Cowboy's problems..............

Brady had success for one season with a stacked team; and threw several interceptions in the playoffs
the next year he had a losing season in the worst division in the NFL
yeah that is a lot of success

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Interestingly, he is making this move before the NFL season ends. Makes you wonder if he put some baits out and didn't like the feedback.

https://www.si.com/nfl/report-bill-belichick-expected-accept-north-carolina-job-if-offered

Report: Bill Belichick Expected to Accept North Carolina Job If He Receives Offer​

Will the coaching legend join the college ranks?

 

[gtb1943]

Interestingly, he is making this move before the NFL season ends. Makes you wonder if he put some baits out and didn't like the feedback.

https://www.si.com/nfl/report-bill-belichick-expected-accept-north-carolina-job-if-offered

Report: Bill Belichick Expected to Accept North Carolina Job If He Receives Offer​

Will the coaching legend join the college ranks?

I would have been willing to bet serious money that the only coaching he was going to do was a NFL HC gig.
To get the all time wins record.
I guess I was wrong. I guess he just wants to coach period

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I would have been willing to bet serious money that the only coaching he was going to do was a NFL HC gig.
To get the all time wins record.
I guess I was wrong. I guess he just wants to coach period

IDK....He seems determined for his next coaching job to be his way or no way. In other words, he wanna be a head coach/GM similar to the Pats job. The team GM role is more business/cap duties. Not sure he's going ever to find that again in the NFL.



"He was turned off by last January’s experience and the lack of action he received," Russini wrote. "... Belichick wants to run a program without interference, and based on the NFL jobs that are expected to be available, there aren’t many organizations who fit that mold.

 

[xwalker]

Right. But by then, it was obviously too late. The ship had sailed for Landry. He was out the door whether it was Jones who had to bumble through the firing or someone else. He hitched his wagon to QBs who proved they really didn't even belong on an NFL field and it cost him.

I don't know if Landry could have gotten it turned around with Aikman, but plenty of good coaches have been sunk by bad QB play. Belichick suddenly became mortal when he no longer had Brady, and the same happened to Landry when Staubach retired. To Tom's credit, he fared better with White than Belichick did with Mac Jones (but frankly, those teams that White lost with in the early 1980s were still mostly made up of players that Staubach won with in the 1970s ... they were on the decline, though, so we went downhill from there in the early to mid-80s).

If the Cowboys had drafted Montana, we might have seen Landry's success continue without much of a bump in the road. It wasn't like he suddenly forgot how to coach when the clock hit 1980.

Landry was done. He simply couldn't make the transition this time. Happens. Doesn't take anything away from his greatness.

And it's ok for people having different opinions. I don't want BB here and hope for a fresh young mind. But that's just me. Relax.

Coaching was not the top reason that the eighties Cowboys declined.

The Landry-Cowboys decline started when Bum Bright purchased the team.

Bum hated Landry & Bum went bankrupt. It was a toxic situation.

The roster was a disaster by the time Jerry/Jimmy arrived.

It was time for Landry to go in 89 but he was still a better Head Coach at that point than McCarthy is now.

 

[Streifenkarl]

It was time for Landry to go in 89 but he was still a better Head Coach at that point than McCarthy is now.

I'd never dispute that.

 

[Bobhaze]

Us Cowboys fans discussing the possibility of getting a great new head coach who can transform this team… It would actually require us to believe our 82 year old GM suddenly decides to stop being a stubborn, behind the times fool.