We need to fix our short yardage offense

[Kevinicus]

Guess I'll have to watch the replay, because live it looked like it hit him right in the hands.

The only one I remember going to Ogletree he had to dive coming back for the ball. It may not have skipped (I think it did), but is was very low and certainly not easy.

 

[Eskimo]

We tried that from the Razorback and failed with Choice tonight, too.

We need the threat of the pass to run the ball.

I think our best option is probably just to try and take advantage of all the man coverage we get on the WRs and TEs.

Another option would be a bootleg of some type with a run/throw option for Romo.

QB sneak would be another - we could maybe even have Crayton do it. Alternatively, maybe train a guy like Choice to do it.

Another possibility would be to come in with a split backfield and fake the dive to Barber and then pitch it out to Felix.

We probably should be looking for another FB. It appears as though they have lose confidence in Cricket to act as the lead blocker.

 

[Kangaroo]

Remember this is not the first time we have had this issue with Barber as the short yardage back it also happened unde Bill with Barber.

Barber is part of the issue he has to hit the holes fasters but he can not he is to slow and dances to much in fact in the past he picked more up doing a stiff arm and skirting to the edge versus straight up the gut

I rather choice or Felix at this point

 

[dbair1967]

Again, when you have 5 or 6 guys trying to block 8 or 9, either the RB has to either just hit the hole as hard as he can and make the half a yard or the offensive cordinator has to make an adjustment, because it's a losing numbers game and someone is going into the backfield untouched.

On most of the runs, we were in tight short yardage formations, so there are enough blockers to get some push. Its not like they were trying to gain 3yds, all of them were 1yd or less. Just get some sort of push and even average backs can convert easily.

 

[Eskimo]

Ogletree did not drop an easy one. Romo did skip one to him though.

That's the way I saw it but it was hard to see.

 

[dbair1967]

The only one I remember going to Ogletree he had to dive coming back for the ball. It may not have skipped (I think it did), but is was very low and certainly not easy.

It wasnt an easy one, but it looked like it hit him right in the hands, at least it did to me live.

 

[Idgit]

We need the threat of the pass to run the ball.

I think our best option is probably just to try and take advantage of all the man coverage we get on the WRs and TEs.

Another option would be a bootleg of some type with a run/throw option for Romo.

QB sneak would be another - we could maybe even have Crayton do it. Alternatively, maybe train a guy like Choice to do it.

Another possibility would be to come in with a split backfield and fake the dive to Barber and then pitch it out to Felix.

We probably should be looking for another FB. It appears as though they have lose confidence in Cricket to act as the lead blocker.

There are lots of things we can do, given that we can't run it. But there's still no excuse for not being able to get 6 inches on multiple tries with your short yardage game when you need it. That problem isn't the coordinator, and unless you're ready to just give up on pounding it altogether, you can't fairly blame Garrett when it doesn't work.

 

[theogt]

That 3rd and 1 in the middle of the 3rd quarter looks to be really curious line blocking assignments to me. Or perhaps someone just screwed up. Haynesworth slants inside Kosier and Kosier does a decent job of standing him up inside. Haynesworth wins the battle of the push, but he's not in a position to make a tackle. This should create a lane outside Kosier in the B gap. But Flozell is blocking in and lets the DE run free inside. I guess it makes sense to double up on AH, but when he slants in, it kills the play with almost no ability to run outside. Once that inside is shut down, and it was shut down quickly, Barber perhaps could have stuttered and give Deon time to block the DE, but I don't think he would have made it there either. Basically when you have a DE, DT and LB on that side, double teaming the DT gives you little chance of a first down.

On the 4th and 1 mid 3rd quarter, Barber had a hole. But he stands himself up and that's it. He has to lower his shoulder and power forward there.

On the 4th and 1 just before the end of the 3rd Quarter, Barber had a hole again and saw it too late. By the time he tried to hit the hole, it was swallowed up.

Barber just isn't running very well. The blocking isn't superb, but he's not doing his job either.

 

[Eskimo]

Choice would be a better short yardage back just because he would hit the crease with no hesitation and use his lower center of gravity to get under pads and push forward. Barber hops around and at 6'0" has to bend down at the waist to get a lower pad level and gets stood up too easily.

But when it takes Jerry Jones publicly lobbying for Felix Jones to get the ball more before Garrett will do it, even when he's a friggin 1st round draft pick and averages a ridiculous ypc, you can pretty much chalk it down that Choice doesn't have a prayer. For whatever reason Garrett is absolutely terrified of using anyone but Barber.

3 trips inside the 35 and only 3 points to show for it ... it's exactly what got us beat against the Chargers and Giants. Thank the Jeebus we were facing a pathetic offensive team tonight.

Garrett is trying to recreate our 90s offense. He seems to be under the delusion that Barber is Emmitt. Since Emmitt could do it, he thinks Barber can too.

Since Emmitt played most of the game and took most the carries, he thinks Barber can too.

I really think he brought RW here (some have suggested he was the one behind the trade) so he could be his version of Michael Irvin.

 

[UnoDallas]

He's slower than Barber.

here take your pick - we just a guy that can actually make a yard

doesn't matter his speed

Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State
Height: 6-1. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2010): 2-4.

Evan Royster*, Penn State
Height: 6-1. Weight: 212.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2010): 2-4.

Toby Gerhart, Stanford
Height: 6-1. Weight: 232.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2010): 2-4.

Montario Hardesty, Tennessee
Height: 6-0. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.51.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4

Joe McKnight*, USC
Height: 6-0. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.39.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.

 

[Eskimo]

There are lots of things we can do, given that we can't run it. But there's still no excuse for not being able to get 6 inches on multiple tries with your short yardage game when you need it. That problem isn't the coordinator, and unless you're ready to just give up on pounding it altogether, you can't fairly blame Garrett when it doesn't work.

We obviously can't pound it with Barber. We tried it against SD without Jamal Williams and couldn't do it in 3 tries. We just tried it against the Skins five times and didn't get it once.

I think Choice might have converted 3 or 4 of those if given a chance.

But if we are going to leave Barber in, we need to start throwing or running bootlegs. We can't keep doing what we're doing.

 

[Cochese]

There are lots of things we can do, given that we can't run it. But there's still no excuse for not being able to get 6 inches on multiple tries with your short yardage game when you need it. That problem isn't the coordinator, and unless you're ready to just give up on pounding it altogether, you can't fairly blame Garrett when it doesn't work.

If we need 6 inches and the coordinator refuses to call a sneak, then the coordinator is a huge problem. Change the snap count and have the qb fall forward, its not rocket science, its practically a gimme.

 

[dbair1967]

If we need 6 inches and the coordinator refuses to call a sneak, then the coordinator is a huge problem. Change the snap count and have the qb fall forward, its not rocket science, its practically a gimme.

Troy Aikman hardly ever (if ever) ran a QB sneak. I dont recall Dan Marino running many, if any sneaks either. Were their coordinator's problems?

 

[Cochese]

Troy Aikman hardly ever (if ever) ran a QB sneak. I dont recall Dan Marino running many, if any sneaks either. Were their coordinator's problems?

Yawn.

This isnt Troy Aikmans Cowboys, pal.

 

[Idgit]

We obviously can't pound it with Barber. We tried it against SD without Jamal Williams and couldn't do it in 3 tries. We just tried it against the Skins five times and didn't get it once.

I think Choice might have converted 3 or 4 of those if given a chance.

But if we are going to leave Barber in, we need to start throwing or running bootlegs. We can't keep doing what we're doing.

Honestly, I don't like it that we can't pound the ball, but it's not the end of the world. We just need to throw the ball, pick our shots with the run game, and stay aggressive and not go for it on 4th and short. Not having more faith in our FG kicker is a problem, but there are worse shortcomings to have. Personally, I'd be a lot more comfortable with the ball in Tony's hand than Barber's on 3rd and one.

 

[dbair1967]

Yawn.

This isnt Troy Aikmans Cowboys, pal.

nahhhh...your kidding

but it was making a valid point...which you missed, or chose to ignore

 

[Venger]

Troy Aikman hardly ever (if ever) ran a QB sneak.

Um. 22.

 

[dbair1967]

Um. 22.

I'm not saying Barber is anywhere near Emmitt, but if the OL does what they are supposed to even average backs will consistently pick up short yardage runs.

And if your OL cant get any forward push, a sneak wont work. Romo is athletic, but he isnt big or physical. He isnt going to generate any push himself.

 

[UnoDallas]

Um. 22.

I saw 22 get stuffed 2 times on the same drive in Phily 3 - 4 down could not get a yard

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

i think its barber more than anything... to much hesitation and not enough burst

I agree... I want to see Choice running the football more.