We Need TO

[zrinkill]

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P.S., why people want to ban posters simply for giving their opinion is beyond me. I may not agree with you (I'm speaking in general not you in specific) but if your comments are related to football and the Cowboys - right or wrong - they have a place here.

Discussion and disagreement are healthy parts of conversation, relationships and growth.

Its the koolaid drinking homers.

They are such good buddies with the Mods that they get them to ban people for anything.

Corruption is everywhere.

Like before I came to my senses ..... a few weeks ago ..... there was a poster who called me a homer ......

I ordered brainpaint to perma ban him ..... true story .... ask brain.


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[tyke1doe]

Its the koolaid drinking homers.

They are such good buddies with the Mods that they get them to ban people for anything.

Corruption is everywhere.

Like before I came to my senses ..... a few weeks ago ..... there was a poster who called me a homer ......

I ordered brainpaint to perma ban him ..... true story .... ask brain.


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If a person asks another to be banned because he can't stand a contrary opinion, that person is mentally weak.

 

[Hook'em#11]

You people are all crazy..

This team isnt' missing T-blow.

What this team really needs back is Clint Steorner, Wayne McGarity, Jason Tucker and Billy Davis

THEN THE BOYS GO ALL THE WAY!!!!

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I say we do this thread after every loss...

 

[Hook'em#11]

I say we do this thread after every loss...

LOL No doubt,

Don't recall any "We need TO" or "What about Gruden as a HC?" after the Panther's game.

 

[thechosen1n2]

LOL No doubt,

Don't recall any "We need TO" or "What about Gruden as a HC?" after the Panther's game.

Hey the other side started it after the bucs game.

 

[zrinkill]

mentally weak.

Thats what the Koolaid drinkers are .....


Just like their King Jerry Jones.

 

[TNCowboy]

TO is averaging like 50 yards a game over the last season and a half or so, excluding the one massive game against SF.

He's just a guy now.

 

[gbrittain]

TO drops balls but he still beats coverage and defenses have to account for him. He'll drop a pass and turn the next one into electrifying score that fires up the team and the crowd. He's a dangerous receiver because he's physical and can turn a routine 10 yard pass into 60 yards and a TD. He can be used as a decoy because he garners respect. This frees other receivers. He can make the kind of play that Brandon Marshall made against the Cowboys last Sunday. The Cowboys don't have any receivers who put fear in anyone. Jerry's biggest mistake wasn't necessarily cutting TO it was not replacing him with a productive receiver. He replaced him with Crayton who he replaced with RW the year prior. It cost Jerry 3 picks to replace Crayton with RW and he hasn't been any better than Crayton so far this season. lol If we had TO he would help free some of our other receivers. If we had TO on those last two plays against Denver that game could have turned out differently. Had it been TO instead of Hurd on that 53 yard pass it would have been a TD. The Cowboys need a fast, big play receiver.

And how do you know this isn't the pass TO drops?

 

[Mash]

Its not about how many yards TO has now or had last year....or averaged per game..

It was his reputation on the field and his threat that we miss......

Till RW or Austin prove to the other teams that they are a deep threat.....Dallas will be easier to defend. It puts more pressure on Tony...and more pressure on Witten.

and without Felix....this team doesnt really have a threat.

Its just simple football really.....If the defense can man up our Wr's....it frees up the safeties.....then the DC has more options...double Witten...blitz..stack the run...

We dont need TO the person back.....we need that threat back...

JMHO

 

[khiladi]

If TO can't fix theirs what makes you think he can fix ours? TO isn't the TO of years past. He didn't exactly have a grand season last year either.

I didn't say he could, because Garrett is at the helm. I've maintained it all throughout, the offense was sucking because of Garrett, and this was one of the reasons for TOs 'decline' in production. Of course everybody drops off with age, but not that much in such a short period, especially considering the year before it went lights out, until it was figured out at the end of the year.The whole offense declined last year, not just TO.TO would undoubtedly perform in our offense, considering the talent level if he had an OC that could actually coach.I never said TO was the savior. I was saying Garrett was and has been the problem.

 

[khiladi]

"forcing" passes to Owens gives Dallas about the same results as spreading the ball around.

First 4 games:
2008: 90/139 1,202yds (13.4avg), 8TD, 4INT, 0sacks, QBRating. 99.3

2009: 76/131 990yds (13.0avg), 4TD, 4INT, 8sacks, QBRating 79.4

Getting rid of Owens did nothing to improve the passing offense, though I guess the flip side is that it hasn't hurt it much either.

But can you say that the offense hasn't improved? Maybe it has...in the running game.

First 4 games:
2008: 93 carries, 485yds (5.2avg), 6TDs
2009: 100 carries, 589yds (5.9avg), 5TDs.


Numbers are obviously up, with the drop in passing output...this is starting to smell like a stagnant offense.

Statistics can be made to prove anything:That is four TDs in 4 games, which is a significant difference, plus teams can get to Tony Romo, because they no longer are as worried about the deep pass as well.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

And how do you know this isn't the pass TO drops?

Is Brad Johnson throwing him the ball?

 

[khiladi]

And TO, throughout his career, has been known to drop balls. His hands were never considered the greatest. The reality is though, those drops never exceed the effects of his production. The fact that Garrett couldn't get the ball to other receivers when teams were making an effort to take him out, the number one receiver, shows his incompetence. Even with TO gone, he manifested this same tendency of targetting one point, but this time the WR was Sam Hurd...

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

And TO, throughout his career, has been known to drop balls. His hands were never considered the greatest. The reality is though, those drops never exceed the effects of his production. The fact that Garrett couldn't get the ball to other receivers when teams were making an effort to take him out, the number one receiver, shows his incompetence. Even with TO gone, he manifested this same tendency of targetting one point, but this time the WR was Sam Hurd...

Garrett couldnt get TO the ball last year and this year he cant get anyone the ball except a running back in the flats.

 

[Cover 2]

Its not about how many yards TO has now or had last year....or averaged per game..

It was his reputation on the field and his threat that we miss......

Till RW or Austin prove to the other teams that they are a deep threat.....Dallas will be easier to defend. It puts more pressure on Tony...and more pressure on Witten.

and without Felix....this team doesnt really have a threat.

Its just simple football really.....If the defense can man up our Wr's....it frees up the safeties.....then the DC has more options...double Witten...blitz..stack the run...

We dont need TO the person back.....we need that threat back...

JMHO

Really? Because Rodney Harrison said when Belichick was making his defensive game plan for the Cowboys game, they didn't really worry about TO. They were worried about stopping Barber and Witten.

 

[thechosen1n2]

That's funny cause we didn't make the playoffs with him last year so I don't really know what that would prove. So you're saying if we had TO again, like we had TO last year, we'd be a team who misses the playoffs? But you're saying that without TO we're not a playoff team. So what's the difference? We're not a playoff team, either way, and one way we make a few more awesome plays but we listen to a whole lot more belly aching about how the ball isn't going to him on 80 out of every 82 passes.

Like I said, Romo and TO at this stage need each other or someone like the other one.

When TO was injured two years back, the Offense stalled, when romo was hurt last year the offense stalled. We are a playoff team with both.
We win 11 games if romo doesnt go down last year (at least 10), and we are 4-0/3-1 if TO is here this year. Not just b/c of TO but romo would be better as well.

 

[Hook'em#11]

"We are a playoff team with both."


Wow.... I must of blink because I can't remember the playoffs last season, or, excelling in the playoffs at all.

 

[thechosen1n2]

"forcing" passes to Owens gives Dallas about the same results as spreading the ball around.

First 4 games:
2008: 90/139 1,202yds (13.4avg), 8TD, 4INT, 0sacks, QBRating. 99.3

2009: 76/131 990yds (13.0avg), 4TD, 4INT, 8sacks, QBRating 79.4

Getting rid of Owens did nothing to improve the passing offense, though I guess the flip side is that it hasn't hurt it much either.

But can you say that the offense hasn't improved? Maybe it has...in the running game.

First 4 games:
2008: 93 carries, 485yds (5.2avg), 6TDs
2009: 100 carries, 589yds (5.9avg), 5TDs.

Numbers are obviously up, with the drop in passing output...this is starting to smell like a stagnant offense.

Those stats dont tell the whole picture. The problem is those numbers are coming off short passes, and inevitably we stall our drives with false starts, and holding penalties. Dallas has relied on the big play for some years now because of there lack of discipline.

 

[thechosen1n2]

I didn't say he could, because Garrett is at the helm. I've maintained it all throughout, the offense was sucking because of Garrett, and this was one of the reasons for TOs 'decline' in production. Of course everybody drops off with age, but not that much in such a short period, especially considering the year before it went lights out, until it was figured out at the end of the year.The whole offense declined last year, not just TO.TO would undoubtedly perform in our offense, considering the talent level if he had an OC that could actually coach.I never said TO was the savior. I was saying Garrett was and has been the problem.

10 tds when your qb was hurt 3.5 games and was terrible 2, is not a bad season. Also considering crayton, and wittens numbers were down as well, im not so sure you can count him as done.

Buffalo does not come into the equation b/c oline sucks, their coordinator..well they dont really have one, there qb has no clue, and the number 1 (lee evans) isnt even scoring. Are you telling me Evans has slowed down.