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jgboys1;2998385 said:
T.O. is just about done, and remember our offense struggled with T.O. in the line up last season anyway. Say no to T.O.


Offense struggled...Wittens numbers down, craytons numbers down, TOs numbers down.

Qb hurt 3 games and sucked 3 others and he still gave 10 tds. 15 the year before and 13 the year before that.

TO may not be the Philly TO but he is still doubled teamed, and now Witten isnt open over the middle.
 

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The one thing I said when TO was waved was that now the excuses have to stop...TO couldn't be blamed as the reason the offense wasn't clicking...Roy perhaps would see double teams or simply see both wideouts facing single coverage and then loading the box for either the run or QB pressure...Tony was going to have to move the ball without always going to Witten...That the onus would be on both Roy and Tony...4 games in, we're definitely seeing a pattern.
 
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FCBarca;2998788 said:
The one thing I said when TO was waved was that now the excuses have to stop...TO couldn't be blamed as the reason the offense wasn't clicking...Roy perhaps would see double teams or simply see both wideouts facing single coverage and then loading the box for either the run or QB pressure...Tony was going to have to move the ball without always going to Witten...That the onus would be on both Roy and Tony...4 games in, we're definitely seeing a pattern.


And what would that be for us that are still in denial?
 

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They dont need TO..

They need experienced leadership...The HC is weak and sports a losing Playoff resume.....Correct me if I am wrong, But this is Garretts FIRST job as OC....and Jerry Jones has not developed any team to win a playoff game in 12years.....great wining menatality...


Having TO here would not change any of the dynamics...just add to them......
 

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Screw T.O. he is a big piece of you know what. All he cares about is himself. I wonder how long before he erupts in Buffalo? We all need to be thankful the idiot of T.O. is gone forever which BTW he shouldn't had been here to begin with.
 

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FCBarca;2998788 said:
The one thing I said when TO was waved was that now the excuses have to stop...TO couldn't be blamed as the reason the offense wasn't clicking...Roy perhaps would see double teams or simply see both wideouts facing single coverage and then loading the box for either the run or QB pressure...Tony was going to have to move the ball without always going to Witten...That the onus would be on both Roy and Tony...4 games in, we're definitely seeing a pattern.

except who ever said there was only ONE problem? maybe they're both the problem.
 

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Rampage;2998360 said:
Garrett's passing offense is terrible and very predictable. T.O. won't change that just like last season.

This is a smart comment.
 

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iceberg;2998956 said:
except who ever said there was only ONE problem? maybe they're both the problem.

Maybe, true...Just that TO was working hard in practices, produced on the field, took losses personal and refused to accept losses...Sounds like you'd want more of those types on your club
 

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BraveHeartFan;2998362 said:
Hey we should ask the Bills if they'll trade him to us. I'm sure they're not exactly going to cry over losing what little he's done there thus far.

The Bills are in worse shape than the Cowboys. Edwards is an average QB who's over thrown a wide open TO several times. TO missed almost all the preseason so Edwards is going to the receivers he's comfortable with. TO demands alot of attention by defenses which allows other receivers to get open. Brandon Marshall made a TO type play against the Cowboys on Sunday to help Denver win that. The Cowboys don't have a receiver who can make that kind of play.
 

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FCBarca;2999049 said:
Maybe, true...Just that TO was working hard in practices, produced on the field, took losses personal and refused to accept losses...Sounds like you'd want more of those types on your club

Except that Terrell Owens took a loss on his stat sheet just as bad as a loss on the field.

Owens refused to accept any culpability, even when he sometimes directly caused bad plays to happen and would still ***** about not getting the ball enough afterwords.

That doesn't mean everything was Owens' fault, but he was part of the problem and an overpaid player in decline.

It was time to part ways.

And even though the passing game is struggling right now, we have the pieces in place for a very good unit.

One thing that hurts us right now, IMO, is Tony Romo only trusts two regular receiving options, Jason Witten and Patrick Crayton.

Romo doesn't have faith in Roy Williams to make a play like the one we just watched Brandon Marshall make on Terence Newman.

Williams can do that kind of thing and the QB is going to have to start looking for him more often in man coverage no matter how "covered" he appears to be in some cases.

Miles Austin has the speed we need on the field if a safety is helping to babysit Witten, but I think often having to read the coverage and adjust his route according to it slows him down.

The Red Zone interception occurred when Austin read the coverage one way and broke inside while Romo saw it differently and threw outside where Champ Bailey made a great catch.

How about less "thinking" on the field?

Don't make the passing game more complex than it needs to be, especially with so many young players on the field.

Witten and Crayton may be fine reading the defense along with Romo, but the others might be better off just running the route that is called and going full tilt.

Simplify things.
 

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Whats missing is a threat....

When Felix isnt in the lineup......we have no threat......

TO might of been a cancer but one thing for certain.....Defenses accounted for him and most times....even when a CB was playing Owens bump and run and Owens had problems beating it.....there was usually a safety backing up that corner....

So far this season......I dont think teams worry about our WR's.....the threat isnt there.....In fact....it gives our opponent defenses more options on how to attack us. They can shadow or double Witten more.....they can blitz more...then can stack 8 in the box more .....

This isnt about missing Owens....but its about missing his threat.....

We need a WR to become that threat.....so far....RW or Austin havent been that threat.

So it comes down to the Cowboys playing a smash run ball game with short to medium pass plays.......and defense cheating knowing that there is no deep threat in the passing game.......so Romo's accuracy and better communication and route running become even more of a factor.

And there lies the problem....our route running hasnt been great....our pass scheme hasnt been great....and Romo's accuracy has been off ....

Lets hope we can improve on those
 

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FCBarca;2999049 said:
Maybe, true...Just that TO was working hard in practices, produced on the field, took losses personal and refused to accept losses...Sounds like you'd want more of those types on your club

he also made it personal and all about him.

you don't want those types either.

TO had a lot of great qualities. no one that i know of ever said he didn't.
but after awhile his bad ones outweigh his good ones and he moves on.

is it the cowboys fault he's on his what, 4th team, or TO's?
 

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TO would be the answer if you were getting the TO from two years ago AND teams would agree not to jam him at the line AND you had a guarantee that he wouldn't become a distraction when things don't go his way. Anyone know where we can find that guy?
 

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iceberg;2998956 said:
except who ever said there was only ONE problem? maybe they're both the problem.
It's easier to look at things as black and white. Less thinking that way.
 

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Jusl89;2998358 said:
Roy Williams cannot and will not produce the same numbers as TO. By cutting TO we lost our big play, go-to receiver that we so desperately needed in that last game. Those throws to Champ Bailey? TO would have caught them.
I don't think this team needs him at all. He was fading fast and isn't anywhere near his 2007 level any more. He's over. He's done. He's gone. Good riddance.
 

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I strongly disagreed with letting T.O go but really thats not the issue. the problem is we did nothing to try and replace him. There was FA WR's that were available that we could have gone after. Or use one of our draft picks to pick one up like the Eagles have done the last 2 years. Instead we did nothing... You have to be dumber than a rock to think that one or even the entire combination of freakin sam hurd, miles austin, and the TE Bennett would be able to replace T.O's production. OR was it Stanback that we were relying on? :bang2:
 

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Da Hammer;2999382 said:
I strongly disagreed with letting T.O go but really thats not the issue. the problem is we did nothing to try and replace him. There was FA WR's that were available that we could have gone after. Or use one of our draft picks to pick one up like the Eagles have done the last 2 years. Instead we did nothing... You have to be dumber than a rock to think that one or even the entire combination of freakin sam hurd, miles austin, and the TE Bennett would be able to replace T.O's production. OR was it Stanback that we were relying on? :bang2:
How could we rely on Stanback if he didn't make the team?

Dude, give that topic a rest already.
 

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IF any of you would open your eyes and look at the personel, the offense resembles that of the Triplets era. By no means and I saying they are as talented but Roy is a Irvin type, possesion reciever who should use his body to shield defenders while running slants and outs. Barber is like Emmit with his hard nose running and but doesn't have the break away speed. Romo can't throw deep just like Aikman. And to add the other O weapon, Witten is Just as good as Novacek if not better. Someone needs to put a boot in Garretts but and and tell him to call similar plays to the early 90's. I think fixing the O is that simple.
 
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