We should sit D. Ware

[burmafrd]

The real question is what probability the med staff assigns to any recovery with 4 weeks rest. If his current infirmity is the result of a new injury sustained in week two or three and it is something that he can recover from with rest, then it might make sense to sit him. If it's a continuation of his end of the season issues, then I think you play him sparingly until he drops and start looking for other options.

that is logical and sensible. Which is exactly why the Boys won't do it.

 

[CATCH17]

We need to build around lee and church . Ware is not a top 5 defender anymore .

Can you name 5 better?

 

[blumayne38]

You can't sit ware he is as important to the d as romo is to the o....look at the games against the chiefs and san diego romo was only 75%....but he was our best option and players seem to play better when they are around him...same goes for ware he is our best option even at 50%

 

[SDCowboy]

You can't sit ware he is as important to the d as romo is to the o....

Not even close. That's not a knock against Ware though. Defense doesn't have a position that impacts everyone like offense does. Ware can be great and the defense can/will still suck.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Can you name 5 better?

Richard Sherman
JJ watt
Von miller (when he plays)
Aldon smith
Clay Matthews (more intensity /impact )
Jared Allen(about even )
Navarro bowman
Geno Atkins
Sean Lee
Patrick Peterson
Luke Kuechly

Then maybe Eric berry / d ware next .

 

[texbumthelife]

Personally, I think it has nothing to do with his injury or his age. I think the guy has completely altered his playing style. His only move is a straight ahead rush. No spins. No speed rush. Rarely looping inside on stunts. I don't know what is going on in his head, but I think something happened, maybe being embarrassed by RGIII last year. I don't know. He is playing completely different now than in years passed though.

 

[CATCH17]

Richard Sherman
JJ watt
Von miller (when he plays)
Aldon smith
Clay Matthews (more intensity /impact )
Jared Allen(about even )
Navarro bowman
Geno Atkins
Sean Lee
Patrick Peterson
Luke Kuechly

Then maybe Eric berry / d ware next .

I agree with maybe 3 of those. Watt, Sherman, and Atkins.

If D. Ware was healthy it wouldn't even be debatable.

 

[KJJ]

I'd rather get him right then trot out this D. Ware.

He is clearly not himself. Sit him and get him ready for the home stretch. He won't impact a game in any way with the shape he is in right now.

Once he gets hurt he never gets right it becomes chronic all season. If it's not a neck burner it's something else. It's been that way with him the last couple of seasons he's on the decline.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I agree with maybe 3 of those. Watt, Sherman, and Atkins.

If D. Ware was healthy it wouldn't even be debatable.

I think at this point if his career miller / a smith / and clay Matthews are all better . It's just my opinion no one can prove each other right or wrong .

 

[erod]

from Aug. 2012:

Since 2005, Ware has 99.5 sacks, most in the NFL in that span. Twenty-six of those came in the fourth quarter, a half-sack more than his first-quarter total.
Third down? Ware has 36 sacks on third down, more than in any other situation.

Link:

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8257639/dallas-cowboys-demarcus-ware-never-stops-learning

Carry on

Who cares if he has a bunch of sacks in blowouts (for and against) late in garbage time.

I've seen every snap the guy has played here. He's made very few plays at critical late junctures of big games.

I've seen every sack he's made. Every pressure, and every tackle. I don't need some ESPN guy who's seen 1/20th of what I have of Ware making a case with meaningless numbers.

 

[erod]

just like the Romo haters facts tend to get in the way of their hate

I respect Romo tremendously because I've seen every game he's played. Love his game.

I don't have that kind of respect for Ware because I've seen every game he's played, too. Good player, but highly overrated.

 

[Smith22]

Who cares if he has a bunch of sacks in blowouts (for and against) late in garbage time.

I've seen every snap the guy has played here. He's made very few plays at critical late junctures of big games.

I've seen every sack he's made. Every pressure, and every tackle. I don't need some ESPN guy who's seen 1/20th of what I have of Ware making a case with meaningless numbers.

Lol. If 3rd down isn't important to you so be it.

 

[burmafrd]

I respect Romo tremendously because I've seen every game he's played. Love his game.

I don't have that kind of respect for Ware because I've seen every game he's played, too. Good player, but highly overrated.

Who cares if he has a bunch of sacks in blowouts (for and against) late in garbage time.

I've seen every snap the guy has played here. He's made very few plays at critical late junctures of big games.


I've seen every sack he's made. Every pressure, and every tackle. I don't need some ESPN guy who's seen 1/20th of what I have of Ware making a case with meaningless numbers.

to make it clear facts mean nothing to you. You hate on Ware and that is all that matters. Sad.

 

[BAT]

He is not himself because he is over 30 years old, tired, and has lost his burst. The shoulder/neck/whatever injuries have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Ware didn't look old and tired against St. Louis, Chiefs or Giants. 4 sacks and an INT in those 3 games. Of course that was pre-stinger and back strain.

 

[Future]

Ware didn't look old and tired against St. Louis, Chiefs or Giants. 4 sacks and an INT in those 3 games. Of course that was pre-stinger and back strain.

He was largely ineffective against the Giants, other than the pick. And he was a ghost for most of the game against KC. Just like INTs don't tell the whole story for DBs, sacks dont for DEs. I dont know how you can sit there and watch and say he is as explosive as he used to be.

And, not for nothing, the mounting injuries have to do with being old and tired...they go hand in hand.

 

[BAT]

He was largely ineffective against the Giants, other than the pick. And he was a ghost for most of the game against KC. Just like INTs don't tell the whole story for DBs, sacks dont for DEs. I dont know how you can sit there and watch and say he is as explosive as he used to be.

And, not for nothing, the mounting injuries have to do with being old and tired...they go hand in hand.

Old or tired are not the reason for all injuries, you are generalizing here. The expectations for Ware are completely unrealistic and skewed.

Ware had 2 sacks against the Rams (should of had at least another), 2 sacks against the Chiefs (ghost?), and had multiple QB pressures & INT against Giants. Not sure how you can characterize his effort as ineffective with a straight face.

 

[Clove]

A lot of the guys have lost it. They will have the occasional break out game, then back to average. Unfortunately, I don't know why we create demands on a board that Jerry doesn't give a crap about. Jerry's not going to sit his best pass rusher, even if hurt.

 

[Vintage]

Clay Matthews. lulz

 

[erod]

to make it clear facts mean nothing to you. You hate on Ware and that is all that matters. Sad.

And if stats qualify as meaningful "facts" to you, that is truly sad, and you don't understand sports.

Jeff George put up tremendous stats several years. Troy Aikman didn't. Who was better?

Logging two sacks with a 28-10 lead or deficit with three minutes left....that doesn't constitute "making a play". That makes up the vast majority of Ware's numbers.

And I go by pressure, not sacks. Rivers and Peyton didn't even know Ware was in the game.

 

[erod]

Ware didn't look old and tired against St. Louis, Chiefs or Giants. 4 sacks and an INT in those 3 games. Of course that was pre-stinger and back strain.

After the first play of the game against the Giants, he had zero tackles, no sacks, and almost no pressure.

He disappeared in the second half against the Chiefs.

The Rams blow.