We still never addressed backup QB

gmoney112

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Why would you in this era? When is the last time a backup won a Super Bowl?

Did anyone else see what mediocre backups got this year?

So, you're paying a premium for what amounts to hopefully just a few games, because if your QB is gone for the season you're done anyway.

If your QB is done, you're done. Then you just dropped 5-7 mill on a backup when your chances of winning a Super Bowl are abysmal.

At this point I'd take a guy who knows the system, like Moore, over paying a Chase Daniel 12 million guaranteed if we just need to scrape off some wins.
 

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Despite all the feel goods Moore provided to some in the finale, he has no business being the primary backup QB for an NFL team. It is absolutely insane that this front office neglected to bring in a veteran signal caller after the season we just witnessed.

Unless they think Prescott is ready for that role right now, but I highly doubt it.

Are you comfortable with our backup QB situation if Romo gets hurts?

I don't remember feeling good in the finale being down 24-0 to WAS back-ups....KMoore is not good enough for the NFL.....counting on him as QB2 is an absolute joke.....Dak may have a future but not this year
 

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Why would you in this era? When is the last time a backup won a Super Bowl?

Did anyone else see what mediocre backups got this year?

So, you're paying a premium for what amounts to hopefully just a few games, because if your QB is gone for the season you're done anyway.

If your QB is done, you're done. Then you just dropped 5-7 mill on a backup when your chances of winning a Super Bowl are abysmal.

At this point I'd take a guy who knows the system, like Moore, over paying a Chase Daniel 12 million guaranteed if we just need to scrape off some wins.

Yeah that sounds great until Tony gets hurt Week 14 and we are 10-4...we need a win to get past the WC round with Romo coming back the following week....KMoore goes 0-3 and we lose in the first round and still draft 22nd
 

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Yeah that sounds great until Tony gets hurt Week 14 and we are 10-4...we need a win to get past the WC round with Romo coming back the following week....KMoore goes 0-3 and we lose in the first round and still draft 22nd

So, you'd sign a scrub to a ridiculous contract in the face of a scenario that in a Monte Carlo analysis probably has a single digit chance of happening?

I mean, maybe. I wouldn't.

And honestly, if Dez and Zeke are both healthy, and our defense is playing a little better, I don't think a Chase Daniel who wouldn't know the offense is going to be much of an improvement. A backup is still fully capable of crapping the bed, especially when they don't have cohesion with the offense.
 

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No question the Cowboy FO deserves a ton of credit for churning this roster. It's amazing how many guys they have brought in here just the last couple of years.

Change for the sake of change isn't exactly churning, my friend. The average NFL career is just over 3 years. I was talking about developing talent from the bottom up and producing adequate backup players.
 

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The believe they have something in Moore. They drafted Dak. So from their position they have addressed the backup QB. Now whether we agree with their decisions or not does not mean they did not address it. IMO it is still fluid and if Moore sucks in TC or Preseason games they will be on the hunt for a vet.

Same as last year when they tried to tell us how good Brandon Weeden was and then brought Cassell in and we all saw how that turned out.
 

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So, you'd sign a scrub to a ridiculous contract in the face of a scenario that in a Monte Carlo analysis probably has a single digit chance of happening?

I mean, maybe. I wouldn't.

And honestly, if Dez and Zeke are both healthy, and our defense is playing a little better, I don't think a Chase Daniel who wouldn't know the offense is going to be much of an improvement. A backup is still fully capable of crapping the bed, especially when they don't have cohesion with the offense.

He wouldn't cease being a quality back-up Week 3...I was pointing out how terrible of an idea it is to write off back-up QB.....you make it sound easy that losing your QB means the season is over...last year was not EASY in any way and we drafted 4th and still didn't get our next QB.....

Yes, I would rather pay the money for a quality back-up
 

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How did they address the backup for 2016? The area they said was critical to address in the offseason. The only player they added is a 4th round rookie. That is not addressing this year's backup.

A 4th round pick that is already showing the inaccuracy and faults that was discussed pre-draft according to reports. That really adds the warm, secure , fuzzy feeling that I needed going in to the season.
 

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It's called, like, having an opinion on college prospects. You have no issue with me using the same thought process to believe Zeke is a great player. It's only when it goes the other way and your fan sensitivities are disturbed that I should wait and see until all results are in.

Dak Prescott is a bum. I'd say it regardless of what team drafted him. I said it before he was ever drafted. I'm not going to change my opinion on him because he's here now. Every moment spent grooming him to be a QB worthy to start for the Dallas Cowboys in the future is time wasted.

I agree with your opinion on Dak and I am a Mississippi State fan. Great kid, good college QB, bum pro prospect, the next starting QB for the Cowboys.
 

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It's called, like, having an opinion on college prospects. You have no issue with me using the same thought process to believe Zeke is a great player. It's only when it goes the other way and your fan sensitivities are disturbed that I should wait and see until all results are in.

Dak Prescott is a bum. I'd say it regardless of what team drafted him. I said it before he was ever drafted. I'm not going to change my opinion on him because he's here now. Every moment spent grooming him to be a QB worthy to start for the Dallas Cowboys in the future is time wasted.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion; I did not mean to imply otherwise. My opinion for the moment is slightly different.

Watching Zeke, it is easy to see what he could bring to the Cowboys offense. Dak, however, you have to look a little harder. I'll admit I would not be inclined to do so were he drafted somewhere else. Having said that though, here is his upside:

The first thing that jumps out at me is his pocket presence and confidence...you can't teach that; you either have it or you don't . Next is his ability to keep plays alive long after their dead. Lastly, he has a very quick release.

Things to work on is his accuracy, particularly on deep balls, taking snaps from under center and reading NFL defenses, particularly those that employ exotic zone defenses. I suspect he will struggle initially with that and will throw some costly interceptions. That is to be expected.

The ultimate question is rather are not he can learn. All reports suggest he loves football and is a natural leader. Those guys typically learn. So while he may not set the world on fire from the start he can be developed.
 

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The FO did address the backup position even if you do not agree with it. Also they could very well still sign a vet as cuts happen before the season begins. As for Moore, I'd like to see how he performs in TC and a couple of Preseason games. He moved the offense last year and seemed to give the offense some life.

They half assed the backup QB position. Only a true homer thinks they "addressed' it.

The front office came out after the season and was pretty clear they needed to upgrade the backup QB position They shopped around, saw that everyone wouldn't bite on their lowball offers, then came back and said Moore was their backup option all along.

LOL. You guys cant be that naïve.
 

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Despite all the feel goods Moore provided to some in the finale, he has no business being the primary backup QB for an NFL team. It is absolutely insane that this front office neglected to bring in a veteran signal caller after the season we just witnessed.

Unless they think Prescott is ready for that role right now, but I highly doubt it.

Are you comfortable with our backup QB situation if Romo gets hurts?

No, I'm not really comfortable. Last offseason I was screaming for the team to get rid of Weeden and get a real backup, but I hoped they knew something about him that I didn't. I turned out to be right. This year I feel very uncomfortable with what we have, but I'm hoping I'm wrong this time. I'm hoping that Moore knows the offense a lot better now. If he can be about as good a backup as Garrett was, we'll be okay. But that's a big if. I'm still reeling from the team's failed attempt to draft Paxton Lynch. I believe that guy will turn out to be something special. It just wasn't meant to be, though I respect Jerry for trying.

If the team does bring in a veteran, I hope they do so soon. I'm not saying he was the answer, but Matt Cassel would have had a much better shot at effective quarterbacking if he had had the benefit of training camp and preseason. You want your QB to know the offense as well as possible. That's a no brainer.

I do think the question of whether the team carries 2 or 3 quarterbacks is answered. It's 3. We played 4 quarterbacks last season. I want two guys waiting in the wings, two who have gone through camp and preseason, two who have seen every play. Without any changes, that's Romo, Moore, Prescott. With a veteran added, it's Romo, [veteran], Moore with Prescott on the practice squad.
 

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No question the Cowboy FO deserves a ton of credit for churning this roster. It's amazing how many guys they have brought in here just the last couple of years.
I would wager Dallas has had the least amount of turnover in the entire division the last couple of years.

I have no idea why you have the impression it is so "amazing".
 

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I'm not really worried about back up qb. Romo goes down its over no matter what imo. I'm not happy with the cheap dline we've assembled. Romo has like 3 years left and we throw his weak and cheap dl together and call it good. It Pisses me off. That said I still expect 10-12 wins if romo stays healthy with the easy schedule. I will enjoy this season regardless unless it's 4-12. Lol
 

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I'm not really worried about back up qb. Romo goes down its over no matter what imo. I'm not happy with the cheap dline we've assembled. Romo has like 3 years left and we throw his weak and cheap dl together and call it good. It Pisses me off. That said I still expect 10-12 wins if romo stays healthy with the easy schedule. I will enjoy this season regardless unless it's 4-12. Lol

The whole season rides on our fragile QB. One big hit and it will the same as last year.
 

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Backups are backups for a reason. Additionally most of the top backups currently in the NFL were unproven until they were forced to play. To say we failed this offseason because we didnt get a backup QB is ridiculous. In a perfect world we would have gotten our backup future starting qb early in this draft, but the Cowboys werent really in position to do that, or it would have been too costly to move up.
 

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The whole season rides on our fragile QB. One big hit and it will the same as last year.

I know we all see Romo as fragile after last season, but he is a lot tougher than people give him credit for. He played in nearly every game the previous 4 seasons, which many seem to forget.

Youre right in that the season could very well be lost without Romo, but thats likely almost any team in the NFL if they lose their QB. Worst case, we put ourselves in great position to acquire our QB of the future high in the draft with a great foundation already around him. Best case Romo has another outstanding year, we return to the playoffs and advance to the Super Bowl. I like the middle scenerio the least if we had the best backup QB journeyman in the NFL starting a bunch of games.
 
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