Well Folks, It Is December

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Hostile;3116670 said:
You know someone is spinning when they ignore an invitation to a bet after they shot off their mouth.

I comprehend every nonsensical word you've spewed. From your chest thumping 2-3 expectations, to your trumpeting of ability to see trends, to your backtracking about how significant they are. You got played Bach. Like a fiddle. If you can't recognize it, that is too damned sad. I set you up to look foolish. You filled in the rest.

Anyone can spot a trend after 11 games Bach. You aren't a big ole stud for it. Sorry to burst your arrogant bubble.

Like I said, I didn't expect you to comprehend.

Also, how is saying I think we'll go 3-2 or 2-3 and leaning towards 2-3 'chest bumping'?

And how did I get played like fiddle?

It's obvious you like to play the 'internet tough guy' to impressive your online following, but it might help if you made some sense now and then.
 

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Hostile;3115159 said:
I personally look at their upcoming schedule, who retired, who they lost in Free Agency, who they gained, who they drafted and if they fit their needs, how much cap room they have left, are they getting any key players back from injury, whether any of their recent draft picks came on at previous year's end, whether or not they have a new Head Coach and if he has previous experience of turning a franchise around, whether any of these things might affect their division rivals and give them a hidden advantage not all could see, and a lot of things unrelated to the previous year's won loss record.

Spin it any way you want buddy, but it's all based on trends. It's based on the previous season's performance. It's based on the trend on the HC. New players added? Sure. And in that case you base it on that players past performance to note whether or not he's an upgrade or not. Draft picks? Yep, their future performance expectation is based on their past performance in college.

But yeah, it must be interesting living in Hostile's world where one thinks the Colts and Lions have equal chances to succeed every season because nothing can be based on any past performances or trends. And yeah, I'm sure the whole sports world is still reeling, just like you probably are, from the shock of yet again seeing the Colts on top and the Lions on the bottom. Wow, if only anyone could've forseen that at the beginning of the year. :laugh2:
 

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TheCount;3116676 said:
Yup, we've definitely put ourselves in place to succeed but I want to see success where we've been seeing disappointment, and that starts in December.


All I want...

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oh and the lexus would be nice too! :D
 

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Bach;3116815 said:
Spin it any way you want buddy, but it's all based on trends. It's based on the previous season's performance. It's based on the trend on the HC. New players added? Sure. And in that case you base it on that players past performance to note whether or not he's an upgrade or not. Draft picks? Yep, their future performance expectation is based on their past performance in college.

But yeah, it must be interesting living in Hostile's world where one thinks the Colts and Lions have equal chances to succeed every season because nothing can be based on any past performances or trends. And yeah, I'm sure the whole sports world is still reeling, just like you probably are, from the shock of yet again seeing the Colts on top and the Lions on the bottom. Wow, if only anyone could've forseen that at the beginning of the year. :laugh2:


If it's all based on trends, then I would like a breakdown of the trend, game-by-game, dating back to Week 1 of last season of the decline of the Tennessee Titans.
 

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casmith07;3116873 said:
If it's all based on trends, then I would like a breakdown of the trend, game-by-game, dating back to Week 1 of last season of the decline of the Tennessee Titans.

I agree. Trends can help, but they are not the be all, end all. Based only trends the Saints would not be 11-0 this season. They have finished 13-3, 7-9 and 8-8 in their previous 3 seasons. Hard to get a reading on something like that.

I only need to see on trend regarding the Titans last year. They kept Kerry Collins at QB. He has been average at best his entire career. Not surprising he did nothing in the playoffs.
 

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joseephuss;3117079 said:
I agree. Trends can help, but they are not the be all, end all. Based only trends the Saints would not be 11-0 this season. They have finished 13-3, 7-9 and 8-8 in their previous 3 seasons. Hard to get a reading on something like that.

I only need to see on trend regarding the Titans last year. They kept Kerry Collins at QB. He has been average at best his entire career. Not surprising he did nothing in the playoffs.

The reason I don't put much into these so called trends is it is not the same team. For trends of have a real meaning all things would have to remain the same once you start changing the parts the trend really does not have much in terms of reality.
 

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Defense is playing well... I think they'll surprise many, but even then, a 2-2 record coming out of December is sufficient, considering the tough schedule...
 

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Yes, Hostile, December is here, but the last game of the season is January 3rd for the Dallas Cowboys, then hopefully the playoffs. I liken the Christmas ghosts to be heavenly angels watching over the Dallas Cowboys and the rest of their season with the holy spirits guiding the Cowboys, too.

Exactly, Chemistry is what has been needed with this team. Getting rid of some players with bad attitude, and adding some key players like Igor, Gerald & Brooking have been beneficial to the team. I feel that Brooking has been the most beneficial player to the team in needs of leadership. Someone, that shows the players what is needed like sweeping out the cobwebs and dust from the corners like Brooking said. Then, that helped a player like Ware go with Brooking and tell Romo in the Cowboys-Commander game, we know your hurting, and we will get the ball back for you, just get us some points so we can win the game.

Leadership is the sole lost identity that this team has been missing. You have to have that first, before chemistry takes hold. The leaders have to step up, take no prisoners when needed, and hold their teammates accountable when such action is called for. Brooking to me started this whole thing off when he got here. Other players followed suit, like Jason Witten (if you remember last year Jason Witten said he didn’t feel that he was needed as a leader or he didn’t have leadership qualities, something like that), Bradie James, Marc Columbo, Demarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff and Tony Romo. All these players after seeing Brooking step up, then they took the next step. Then, Brooking showed how a team plays together, with team chemistry. That’s when chemistry started to take place, after the arrival of Brooking, while Igor and Gerald Sensabaugh added their contributions to the team too.

Next, like you said Hostile, Brooking helped Bradie James at middle inside linebacker to fill those areas in the middle of the defense to shut down teams when they are running or passing.

Totally agree with you about the special teams. Finally, what Jimmy Johnson, Albert Breer, Terry Bradshaw, and Howie Long told wade what was wrong with his special teams sunk in after the 2008 season when we hired Joe D. Believe it or not, even a few fans are still questioning the drafting of Beuhler. Boy, some fans just don’t learn or can see the forest for the trees sometimes.

I still view the 2009 draft more than special teams crop, with Butler helping on some pass rush moves and sacks. Was Butler that helped sack the Carolina QB in a key game that we needed to win? Was Jason Williams that made a key sack of an opposing player that resulted eventually in a score, when the player fumbled? How many times has John Phillips made some key blocks on runs and helped pass block so Romo could throw some key passes?

Yes, the Dallas Cowboys have another brutal schedule in December and January 3rd, but I feel that they are getting real close turning those past failures into a winning season with more to come. Now, hold on to your horses here a minute. I didn’t say this team is a top playoff and super bowl material team. I do think that the Cowboys are very close. As we have seen in seasons past, now and then you have a Cinderella team that comes out of nowhere and wins. This team to me reminds me in some ways the team that the Dallas Cowboys had in 1991. This team went on to win in the playoffs by beating the Chicago Bears but losing to the Lions. What happened the next year in the off-season? The Dallas Cowboys traded for Charles Haley and Thomas Everett, which propelled the team into 3 super bowls starting in 1992.

YOU read it here first, I feel that the team is real close, and anything can happen, but remember the most important thing that is one of our team’s mottos this year. You take one team at a time; don’t concentrate on teams that you aren’t playing yet, but the team that you are facing that Sunday or Saturday. If our team, the Dallas Cowboys players and coaches can take that attitude of one game at a time, then we need to do the same too.

Like Hostile said, I don’t think we will strike gold this year, or arrive at the end of the rainbow this year, due to excellent teams like Saints and Vikings to me are the cream of the crop this year. Yet, like they say 9 times out of 10, the super team might beat you, but that one time, you might be able to beat that big gorilla.

GO COWBOYS! Anything is possible.
 

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Bach;3116794 said:
Like I said, I didn't expect you to comprehend.

Also, how is saying I think we'll go 3-2 or 2-3 and leaning towards 2-3 'chest bumping'?

And how did I get played like fiddle?

It's obvious you like to play the 'internet tough guy' to impressive your online following, but it might help if you made some sense now and then.
I knew the cop out crap was coming next. You remind me of my canoe.

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Bach;3116815 said:
Spin it any way you want buddy, but it's all based on trends. It's based on the previous season's performance. It's based on the trend on the HC. New players added? Sure. And in that case you base it on that players past performance to note whether or not he's an upgrade or not. Draft picks? Yep, their future performance expectation is based on their past performance in college.

But yeah, it must be interesting living in Hostile's world where one thinks the Colts and Lions have equal chances to succeed every season because nothing can be based on any past performances or trends. And yeah, I'm sure the whole sports world is still reeling, just like you probably are, from the shock of yet again seeing the Colts on top and the Lions on the bottom. Wow, if only anyone could've forseen that at the beginning of the year. :laugh2:
Yeah, that would be interesting if I ever maintained that, which I clearly didn't.

Just more useless spin control.
 

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casmith07;3116873 said:
If it's all based on trends, then I would like a breakdown of the trend, game-by-game, dating back to Week 1 of last season of the decline of the Tennessee Titans.

Show me where I said a trend can't be broken. No one has claimed it's some kind of exact science. It's just a pattern of like performance over a certain amount of time.

Right now for the Cowboys, they have a trend of 13 consecutive years of not winning a playoff game and about as long of not having a winning record over the last month of the season. That doesn't mean it will always have to be that way, but until it changes, then it's a trend. Really rather simple for most.
 

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Hostile;3117509 said:
Yeah, that would be interesting if I ever maintained that, which I clearly didn't.

Just more useless spin control.

So if you didn't believe at the start of that the Colts and Lions had equal chances at success, then how did you come to the conclusion one had a better chance than the other? You'd have to look at talent and coaching of both teams which would be based on past performance (trends) in order to come to a conclusion.

So either you think every team has equal chances at the start of each season or you are basing their chances on past performance and trends. So which is it Hos?
 

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Bach;3117549 said:
So if you didn't believe at the start of that the Colts and Lions had equal chances at success, then how did you come to the conclusion one had a better chance than the other? You'd have to look at talent and coaching of both teams which would be based on past performance (trends) in order to come to a conclusion.

So either you think every team has equal chances at the start of each season or you are basing their chances on past performance and trends. So which is it Hos?
I'd love to teach you about the game of football but I need a time frame. You're so far behind.
 

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Bach;3117575 said:
We can start with the easy one. There is nothing about 2008 or any previous season that matters to an 8-3 team and guarantees they will go 2-3 to finish 10-6.

That was silly of you to ever claim to see a trend for. Really silly.
 

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Bach;3117533 said:
Show me where I said a trend can't be broken. No one has claimed it's some kind of exact science. It's just a pattern of like performance over a certain amount of time.

Right now for the Cowboys, they have a trend of 13 consecutive years of not winning a playoff game and about as long of not having a winning record over the last month of the season. That doesn't mean it will always have to be that way, but until it changes, then it's a trend. Really rather simple for most.

So it's only a trend and only applies if it's convenient to your argument? Got it.
 
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